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2017 Best midfield and depth
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its not a bad midfield if it stays fit and you get some good mileage into the kids.
Ablett, Swallow, Hall, Barlow, Lyons, Hanley, Rischitelli.
Add Miller, Martin, Bowes, Brodie & Fiorini.
Some decent depth in talent.
It would be good to see a good year of fitness for Ablett, both for him personally and your team
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Hawks depth is terrible.
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Tier 1 - Watson, Heppell, Zerrett
Tier 2 - Zaharakis, Goddard, Myers, Colyer, Stanton, Hocking
Tier 3 - Parish, McGrath, Langford, Laverde, Bird
Finding our best balance will be the hard part, But the young talent there will hold us in good stead for our next tilt whenever that may be.
Tier 2 - Zaharakis, Goddard, Myers, Colyer, Stanton, Hocking
Tier 3 - Parish, McGrath, Langford, Laverde, Bird
Finding our best balance will be the hard part, But the young talent there will hold us in good stead for our next tilt whenever that may be.
Well it's certainly a hell of a lot better than a couple of seasons ago, when it was Steven and Armo and then daylight, before the likes of Schneider and Gilbert pinch hitting in there because we had so few other options, Mav Weller tagging for half a season, Dunstan in his 2nd season- coming off a shoulder reco- and pre-breakout Seb Ross for half a season, coming back from a 3 month hammy, with about-to-be-delisted Farren Ray (also for just half the season, after a bad hammy) and a younger Newnes on the wings!
Just did this for fun, Swans 2017 rotating midfield depth chart is a bit like
(best 25)
Kennedy
Hannebery
Parker
Jack
Heeney*
Lloyd
Jones*
Mills*
Hewett*
Towers
Foote*
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(depth)
Florent
Hayward
Robinson
Rose
run and carry/ leg speed the weakness, have been trying to address that with the recent young picks Florent/Hayward.* denotes <50 games
(best 25)
Kennedy
Hannebery
Parker
Jack
Heeney*
Lloyd
Jones*
Mills*
Hewett*
Towers
Foote*
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(depth)
Florent
Hayward
Robinson
Rose
run and carry/ leg speed the weakness, have been trying to address that with the recent young picks Florent/Hayward.* denotes <50 games
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Getting Jones midfield minutes is a big key for you guys IMO, Has all the speed and power to rip a game open.
Can't wait to watch him develop further.
yeah, he's a ripper. Was playing off the wing at times in the finals. highly rated internally and starting to produce it in games.
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It's not that much different than the past 5-6 years, yet we've found a way. Not sure why this year we'll suddenly drop off a cliff with a similar group.
Wait until we see how the young guys perform before worrying myself too much.
Other thing is, in 2014 & 2015, we rarely if ever had the same three players at centre bounces or around clearances during that period, with guys like Roughead, Bruest, Puopolo, Rioli, Hodge, Burgoyne etc all running through there. Seemed to go away from it a bit last year, so interesting to see what Clarko does.
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Precious Hawthorn fans aside - I think our midfield depth is quite poor compared to the other top teams, especially when you include rucks in the mix.
Big boii
T. Mitchell
L. Shiels
J. O'Meara (provided he remains fit)
Rotation:
- L. Hodge
- S. Burgoyne
- C. Rioli
- I. Smith
- P. Puopolo
- L. Breust
- Roughie
- W. Langford
- J. O'Rourke
We have one certified gun in Tom Mitchell, and another in JOM however he clearly has fitness/injury concerns. If he can remain fit and firing then he is a huge boost to our midfield stocks.
Hodge and Burgoyne are two champions and their quality is undeniable, but they're obviously old and will probably be used sparingly in the midfield.
Rioli would arguably be our best/most damaging midfielder, but he is also needed up forward.
Shiels is a good midfielder but isn't a star by any means, just a good quality battler that every side needs.
Langford has all the tenacity and heart you need, and then some on top of that, but his skills are really poor. Having said that I would much rather he play then peahearts like Hartung.
O'Rourke still has it all to prove.
Smith, Puopolo, Roughie and Breust are all able to rotate through and I feel have been pretty good in the middle - all offer different strengths and increase our depth by quite a lot. But none are full-time midfielders. Hopefully Roughie is fit and firing.
Big boii
T. Mitchell
L. Shiels
J. O'Meara (provided he remains fit)
Rotation:
- L. Hodge
- S. Burgoyne
- C. Rioli
- I. Smith
- P. Puopolo
- L. Breust
- Roughie
- W. Langford
- J. O'Rourke
We have one certified gun in Tom Mitchell, and another in JOM however he clearly has fitness/injury concerns. If he can remain fit and firing then he is a huge boost to our midfield stocks.
Hodge and Burgoyne are two champions and their quality is undeniable, but they're obviously old and will probably be used sparingly in the midfield.
Rioli would arguably be our best/most damaging midfielder, but he is also needed up forward.
Shiels is a good midfielder but isn't a star by any means, just a good quality battler that every side needs.
Langford has all the tenacity and heart you need, and then some on top of that, but his skills are really poor. Having said that I would much rather he play then peahearts like Hartung.
O'Rourke still has it all to prove.
Smith, Puopolo, Roughie and Breust are all able to rotate through and I feel have been pretty good in the middle - all offer different strengths and increase our depth by quite a lot. But none are full-time midfielders. Hopefully Roughie is fit and firing.
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What's Jones aerobic capacity like.How does he go in time trials?.Did he even play in mids in TAC?.That's the question with him isn't?If he can take the next step and they use Mills through the mids the Swans top 8 mids are equal to anyone
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One of the better posts in this thread. Be interesting to see if Hawthorn tweak their game plan at all in 2017, their system is brilliant but the poor contested work came back to bite them in finals.
It's already been said that Hawthorn tweak their game plan every offseason but that this time around the changes are more substantial.
Will be very interesting to see how successful they are, but knowing Clarko they probably will be.
Will be very interesting to see how successful they are, but knowing Clarko they probably will be.
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Replace the Pies with the Saints
Mitchell and Lewis are big outs.
Particularly Mitchell. The play against the Eagles where he was sacked like a QB with no option, that summed up his role for me. If he isn't getting you going from the stoppages, no one else really does.
no longer a question of talent
It's all about consistency. i.e. not beating the Hawks convincingly then capitulating against the Blues.
Reckon there is a good chance that list goes top 6 if they turn it on.
also, Hibberd will be a weapon through the middle. He covers a lot of ground for a defender.
I can't agree with Geelong's midfield being in there. Its a two man show. Yes, 2 of the best, but other teams are developing and the Cats haven't shown a lot of depth coming through. At this stage, i'd even rate the Dons midfield depth over them.
GWS, Dogs, Swans, Dees, Pies - my top 5 midfields.
Crows as well if they can get Crouch fit and Cameron's engine up.
Not sure what his aerobic stats are, he's pretty driven but had an interrupted preseason 15/16 with a knee clean out, so first time at full fitness/ full pre season, has been doing sessions with his brother etc. if I was to guess he'd maybe be top 15 in the time trial at the club. When he tested before the draft he was "above average" (top 20%?) in repeat sprints, and similar/slightly worse at 20m sprint. He's a bit of a white liner that probably doesn't have elite GPS stats ATM . Had an interesting draft year where he started at the bottom rung at Vic country, ended up Vic country MVP off half back, and finished the year at TAC with some big midfield performances.
Suspect the Swans board consensus is his highest ceiling is as an inside/out midfielder ultimately but may earn his spot in 2017 as a back flanker rotating through midfield
There's a weakness there??
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They are big outs, though in a lot of ways I think Mitchell missing might be a blessing in the same way Buddy going was a blessing. We relied far to much on Sammy last year IMO. It was seriously bad how often players would give it to him, regardless of pressure on him, and just seem to expect he'd deliver for us. Don't get me wrong though, I'd take him back in a heart beat (same with Buddy for that matter).
Lewis, not as big as an out as Sammy but still a big loss. That being said, T Mitchell and O'meara are solid ins to replace them. T Mitchell was one of the Swans best on GF day, with 26 posessions, 13 tackles and 2 goals. It's a handy day to have in the biggest day of the year so we know the kid can play. O'meara is a risk, but his upside is huge and if we can get him fit could be anything for us.
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Just some scribble re the Hawks...
Hodge, Gibson, Puopolo and Birchall were all down last season they need to lift for you guys to still contend.
Burgoyne needs to maintain his output, Roughhead back is huge but how will he perform.
Mitchell and Lewis for Titchell and JOM, Reckon you lose more than gain if you look at it isolated like this.
Hill gone, Need to find another winger(Hartung to own it?), Hartung, Burton, Lovell, Brand and Sicily to become important players is definitely needed.
Reckon Isaac Smith will be tagged a lot in 2017.
Frawley is very important next year.
Hodge, Gibson, Puopolo and Birchall were all down last season they need to lift for you guys to still contend.
Burgoyne needs to maintain his output, Roughhead back is huge but how will he perform.
Mitchell and Lewis for Titchell and JOM, Reckon you lose more than gain if you look at it isolated like this.
Hill gone, Need to find another winger(Hartung to own it?), Hartung, Burton, Lovell, Brand and Sicily to become important players is definitely needed.
Reckon Isaac Smith will be tagged a lot in 2017.
Frawley is very important next year.
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Goldstein tips you over. Not sure about the mids though...........and you have taken just a little bit of liberty with half those names.
Richmonds top end is better. Thought that may have been clear.
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The regulars
Mitchell
JoM
Shiels
The ones constantly rotating through
Roughie
Rioli
Burgoyne
Breust
Hodge
Then the next tier
Langford
Howe
JoR
Lovell
Stewart
Etc.
We will see 2 of the first 3 at pretty much every centre bounce with Roughie Rioli and Breust in there a lot.
Burgoyne and Hodge as required.
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I just put the blokes who I hope will rotate through the midfield.
Plenty of blokes would have had more midfield minutes if it weren't for the empty suitcase in Scott and the retired geriatrics who were getting in the way.
Tom Mitchell may start getting tagged for the first time in his life.
Lots of queries over Hawks.
Lots of queries over Hawks.
