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That's actually quite disturbing.
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That's actually quite disturbing.
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Cal Twomey and Michael Ablet in their latest episode of road to the draft have us taking Dow at 3 and Bonar at 10.
Bonar at 10 just seems like too big of a risk
Bonar at 10 just seems like too big of a risk
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Does anybody have any info on the software program that we are supposedly using for talent identification and drafting.
I read it was based on a US program and was wondering, what clubs use it and which clubs are putting most money in to these programs?
Is anyone in the know?
There is a cool doco with English football coach Sam Allardyce on a similiar program that’s worth a look.
I read it was based on a US program and was wondering, what clubs use it and which clubs are putting most money in to these programs?
Is anyone in the know?
There is a cool doco with English football coach Sam Allardyce on a similiar program that’s worth a look.
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I think we partnered with the Boston Red Sox for that. All teams would have a software package now, and their own unique statistical models to analyse players.
Link please dd???
Would prefer we partnered with the Celtics given their current form!!!!
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Sorry, I saw it briefly a few months ago, it was from his time at Bolton when they unexpectedly did really well and got a very good player at massive unders due to perceived issues.
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I’d really love to know what clubs take it seriously, how much they use it, and how much each club spends on it.
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I found this.
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Ahhh the Shane Rogers wheel of chance ... love it!
What could possibly go wrong ..... wait ....
What could possibly go wrong ..... wait ....
But some times you come up Cripps
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Fine, then we have a repeat of 2017...which means a bottom 3 finish...again.
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The ultimate object of Aussie Rules is to kick a winning score. We do not have the equipment to achieve this.
Moody Blue
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Not from you, but do let me know if you find someone who can kick some goals.
If Crameri is the difference between finishing bottom 3 or not, then we have a hell of a lot more work to do and he is clearly not the answer to our problems.
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moody by name?
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We need someone to kick 30-50 goals, which we do not have at the moment. Kick goals you win games, and you climb up the ladder. Pretty simple. otherwise we can go on about how much potential Casboult has...if he could kick straight.
Crameri has struggled physically- needs more help from Dank - but Dank is not taking calls.
Seriously though - there must be a reason why Dogs delisted him and 16 other clubs are not interested.......
He is definitely not the answer for us.
We do need to kick goals, but we shouldn't be thinking that a 29 year old who hasn't played in 2 years is going to be the answer.
Casboult & Wright both kicked 30 goals or more this year.
We need goal-kickers no doubt, but we also need mid-field personnel to get the ball into the forward-line efficiently.
Back-line is almost set, midfield next and then watch the forward-line become more productive. Crameri won't change our entries into the forward 50.
North Melbourne in 1989 had Wayne Carey and Longmire early in their careers kick 9 goals between them that season in a total of 20 games combined. Get some patience. In that moment North did not have someone kick 30 to 50 goals but those guys in future were more than capable of doing that. North just had to be patient as they developed for a few years and started really make inroads in 1993 with big winning scores. 1994 they missed the grand final by a late goal from GOD in one of best preliminary finals ever.
What you are suggesting of getting Crameri would be like North Melbourne chasing a washed up Warwick Capper and hoping they going to be in a grand final the next year.
We got some young tall forwards like Harry McKay, Charlie Curnow, Jack Silvagni and Pat Kerr needing time to develop and learn to play against far more seasoned bodies week after week. We already got Casboult taking some of their space, why would we fill the forward line with another marking forward like Crameri and not let them develop ?
I just do not get the short sighted view here. Surely you realise we realistically are not going to be contender for premierships until next decade. If we were like Port and thought a top up for a current contention was worth doing, then it might make some sense but Crameri to Carlton makes no sense to me. Much rather let the young guys develop and learn to play the forward line themselves and learn to kick more goals and they get more games under their belt. Some of these players to kick 30 to 50 goals are on our list already and could be doing that in a year or two. In 3 to 5 years we may have 3 to 4 guys able to all kick over 40 goals in a season. That excites me to watch them develop together.
Crameri does not excite me at all. Total dead end plan there. Best before 2016 should be written on his player file.
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We don't need someone to kick 30-50 goals; we need someones to kick 60-90 goals across their combined tallies. We have players on our list already, provided the delivery into the forward line improves, that may not be able personally to kick fifty goals in a season, but are perfectly able to kick 25.
Single avenues to goal are simpler to shut down. Where we - and most Carlton supporters - agree is that we need to kick more goals. But your stubborn insistence on a 29 year old that spent a year out of the game due to suspension and almost another to injury as though he's the panacea for our forward line is absurd.
Look at every single grand final winner from the last 20 or so years, with the possible exception of 2008 Hawthorn. All of them had a spread of goalkickers, and all of them were near impossible to shut down.
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