2017 Rising Star Discussion

[The Prosecutor]

Only defender who wasnt beaten and didnt make a ton of mistakes. And more to the point, didnt make mistakes.

His current form added with Birch Stratts and Frawley is going to make a great defence.

By far our BOG tonight. Shame Clarko wont give him any votes.

Yet, here's some quotes on Burton's game from the Hawthorn board...

Turned it over a bit early but he was one of the few who kept cracking in until the end. Very sure in a contest again tonight and barely wasted it in the second half.

Was port's best player early but it says a lot about his character that he responded so well after quarter time

Great learning game for Burton last night.

Love the fact he doesn't drop his head when he makes a few mistakes.

Seems he did make mistakes...

 

[HairyO]

Yet, here's some quotes on Burton's game from the Hawthorn board...







Seems he did make mistakes...

Didnt say he didnt make mistakes. Said he didnt make a ton of mistakes. Given our backline its hard to work out how Port didnt win by a 100.

We are certainly lucky their only forward is Dixon.

 

[The Prosecutor]

Didnt say he didnt make mistakes. Said he didnt make a ton of mistakes. Given our backline its hard to work out how Port didnt win by a 100.

We are certainly lucky their only forward is Dixon.

Umm...

Only defender who wasnt beaten and didnt make a ton of mistakes. And more to the point, didnt make mistakes.

His current form added with Birch Stratts and Frawley is going to make a great defence.

By far our BOG tonight. Shame Clarko wont give him any votes.

 

[HairyO]

Umm...

Perhaps the last bit was some hyperbowl.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

shows people go on stats alone, oh and one plays for a vic club.... even though there isnt much in it stat wise SPP 66.6% time on ground vs 84.8%

It's ok mate. We know it's all a conspiracy against the non-Vic clubs.

 

[List Manager]

Rance does it playing on opponents. I'm sure Burton has too. But when he took those two intercept marks within about 3 mins he didn't have an opponent

Or did he just read the play better than his opponent?

 

[List Manager]

shows people go on stats alone, oh and one plays for a vic club.... even though there isnt much in it stat wise SPP 66.6% time on ground vs 84.8%

SPP plays in the midfield, Burton in defence......

 

[Adz2332]

SPP plays in the midfield, Burton in defence......

exactly SPP is in the guts. no easy ball and is an inside mid

 

[List Manager]

exactly SPP is in the guts. no easy ball and is an inside mid

No easy ball.....I beg to differ. Hawthorn's midfield is like playing against witches hats at the moment.
What you meant to say was that if/when Burton moves into the midfield....LOOK OUT!

 

[Lance Uppercut]

So you have made this comparison based on 14 games compared to one of the best in the history? Ok then

One bloke with 12 one percenters per game vs 2.2.

Fair comparison right there. Plenty of good young defenders around but comparison with Rance? i can start comparing SPP with Judd then, he stats are better than Judd's first year but it will be a pointless comparison.

also moves like Pendlebury apparently. No doubt he also kicks like Jarmen

 

[carnthedons]

also moves like Pendlebury apparently. No doubt he also kicks like Jarmen

Andrew, not Darren

 

[Sector 7G]

also moves like Pendlebury apparently. No doubt he also kicks like Jarmen

Well he did look slow last night so he has half of impersonation down pat.

 

[Bombs Away]

also moves like Pendlebury apparently. No doubt he also kicks like Jarmen

 

[Bombs Away]

also moves like Pendlebury apparently. No doubt he also kicks like Jarmen

I love how they are only ever compared to champions

Never hear anyone compared to Damian Cupido or Jack Mihochek

Any indigenous player is compared to a rioli/long or polly farmer depending on size

 

[Procrastinator35]

Seems the rising star discussion has all become a one-way street of late.....Haters gonna hate.

 

[HairyO]

exactly SPP is in the guts. no easy ball and is an inside mid

He only gets easy ball. That is why he plays well against bad opponents and goes missing against the good.

 

[Adz2332]

No easy ball.....I beg to differ. Hawthorn's midfield is like playing against witches hats at the moment.
What you meant to say was that if/when Burton moves into the midfield....LOOK OUT!

Big if tho. Compared to a player who is alreadyin the midfield doing very well

 

[Love the Drake]

Ask Tex Walker if Burton can defend!

I base my observations on all his games this year. Rarely picks up an opposition player. Has sensibly been used as the spare man in defence due to age/experience. This is not an attack on burton, just an observation. It also explains his high kicking efficiency as he gets most of his disposals in space, whereas SPP, SPS and McGrath get more of their own ball.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I base my observations on all his games this year. Rarely picks up an opposition player. Has sensibly been used as the spare man in defence due to age/experience. This is not an attack on burton, just an observation. It also explains his high kicking efficiency as he gets most of his disposals in space, whereas SPP, SPS and McGrath get more of their own ball.

What a load of crap.

"Rarely picks up an opposition player". Stop talking down a kid and making shit up as you go.

The week Burton was nominated he spent largely on Tex Walker.

 

[TerryWallet]

I love how they are only ever compared to champions

Never hear anyone compared to Jack Mihochek

Any indigenous player is compared to a rioli/long or polly farmer depending on size

Just got back from Hungry Jacks, i attacked 2 whoppers like i was Jack Mihochek.

 

[Jcpdragonx]

1. Burton
2. SPP
3. McGrath
4. Taranto
5. Silvagni

 

[hawkman]

What a load of crap.

"Rarely picks up an opposition player". Stop talking down a kid and making shit up as you go.

The week Burton was nominated he spent largely on Tex Walker.

Amazing how many defenders we have had over the last 5 years that play as a spare defender

 

[WatWouldCyrilDo]

15 touches for McGrath today.. didn't touch it in the last quarter. This is where I think Burton will push ahead towards the end of the season - has had 2 pre-seasons under his belt vs 1.. should be able to run out the run year a lot more consistently than McGrath and SPP

 

[Procrastinator35]

15 touches for McGrath today.. didn't touch it in the last quarter. This is where I think Burton will push ahead towards the end of the season - has had 2 pre-seasons under his belt vs 1.. should be able to run out the run year a lot more consistently than McGrath and SPP

Easy to get a touch in a winning side....Try being B.O.G in a losing side as a first year player; & having the highest disposal efficiency of every defender league-wide.

 

[Cyril the King]

Easy to get a touch in a winning side....Try being B.O.G in a losing side as a first year player; & having the highest disposal efficiency of every defender league-wide.

I think your right he'll run out the season and win the rising star, but I wouldn't say he's had 2 preseasons under his belt. He was restricted in his first and then they operated on him to remove the rods in his leg from the terrible break he had at the start of his under 18 year, that's also why he slipt in the draft after being rated a top 3 or 5 pick by most before the leg break