List Mgmt. 2018-19 DFA & SSP Period (Midseason Draft after Round 10)

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I've got nothing.

 

[footyfan1978]

If we get Dunkley, how do people think he'll adapt to his new role in the forward/back pocket?

I doubt whomever we get will be put into our AFL team anytime soon.
The AFL have botched the rules in their first attempt at bringing back a mid-season draft. It was meant to be mostly mature aged types in their twenties but due to leaving 19 year olds in it, what looks like happening is clubs with early picks will just pick the best kid that would be likely taken in the draft later in November. Those kids should not be in this pool but the AFL for some silly reason botched it up not thinking it through. So kids overlooked last draft for some reason like injury that played again this season and look really good to be picked up in National Draft at end of year, will just be brought forward to being taken mid-season and seen as long term investment rather than immediate mature agent talent to boost team straight away that it should have been. So for example if the thinking is Dunkley or Hirst would likely go pick 25 to 30 in National Draft projecting forward, is the early pick of too much value to use on a mature aged 23 to 27 year old, that tend to go later in National Drafts if they get picked at all ? The answer is pretty obvious if you got an early pick in mid-season draft.

 

[rog1995]

I doubt whomever we get will be put into our AFL team anytime soon.
The AFL have botched the rules in their first attempt at bringing back a mid-season draft. It was meant to be mostly mature aged types in their twenties but due to leaving 19 year olds in it, what looks like happening is clubs with early picks will just pick the best kid that would be likely taken in the draft later in November. Those kids should not be in this pool but the AFL for some silly reason botched it up not thinking it through. So kids overlooked last draft for some reason like injury that played again this season and look really good to be picked up in National Draft at end of year, will just be brought forward to being taken mid-season and seen as long term investment rather than immediate mature agent talent to boost team straight away that it should have been. So for example if the thinking is Dunkley or Hirst would likely go pick 25 to 30 in National Draft projecting forward, is the early pick of too much value to use on a mature aged 23 to 27 year old, that tend to go later in National Drafts if they get picked at all ? The answer is pretty obvious if you got an early pick in mid-season draft.

Good to see a new rule actuality benefiting us for a change..

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

I doubt whomever we get will be put into our AFL team anytime soon.
The AFL have botched the rules in their first attempt at bringing back a mid-season draft. It was meant to be mostly mature aged types in their twenties but due to leaving 19 year olds in it, what looks like happening is clubs with early picks will just pick the best kid that would be likely taken in the draft later in November. Those kids should not be in this pool but the AFL for some silly reason botched it up not thinking it through. So kids overlooked last draft for some reason like injury that played again this season and look really good to be picked up in National Draft at end of year, will just be brought forward to being taken mid-season and seen as long term investment rather than immediate mature agent talent to boost team straight away that it should have been. So for example if the thinking is Dunkley or Hirst would likely go pick 25 to 30 in National Draft projecting forward, is the early pick of too much value to use on a mature aged 23 to 27 year old, that tend to go later in National Drafts if they get picked at all ? The answer is pretty obvious if you got an early pick in mid-season draft.

And the problem with this is? I really doubt if any over age players would slot into any AFL team half way through the season.

 

[The Bighouse]

And the problem with this is? I really doubt if any over age players would slot into any AFL team half way through the season.

It really was a ruckman rule if of the planned benefit - Zac Clarke could’ve gone last year, Knoll this year to try and plug holes on a list with the limited numbers & when injury strikes.

That being said, Tim Kelly would have handy 2 years ago when we had our eye on him.

Should have been more basis on mature player in the ruling to be eligible.

 

[HARKER]

I doubt whomever we get will be put into our AFL team anytime soon.
The AFL have botched the rules in their first attempt at bringing back a mid-season draft. It was meant to be mostly mature aged types in their twenties but due to leaving 19 year olds in it, what looks like happening is clubs with early picks will just pick the best kid that would be likely taken in the draft later in November. Those kids should not be in this pool but the AFL for some silly reason botched it up not thinking it through. So kids overlooked last draft for some reason like injury that played again this season and look really good to be picked up in National Draft at end of year, will just be brought forward to being taken mid-season and seen as long term investment rather than immediate mature agent talent to boost team straight away that it should have been. So for example if the thinking is Dunkley or Hirst would likely go pick 25 to 30 in National Draft projecting forward, is the early pick of too much value to use on a mature aged 23 to 27 year old, that tend to go later in National Drafts if they get picked at all ? The answer is pretty obvious if you got an early pick in mid-season draft.

Just on the point of over-agers.

I don't recall just how many quality over-agers have come about in, let's say the past 5 years. (No point going back much further.)
That being 18 year olds that missed being selected in the drafts, but then picked up in the following draft when 19.
Given history, we'd be extremely 'lucky' to be picking up someone who would have likely gone in this 25-30 bracket in the ND.

Seems to me that the better players have come via State leagues - Kelly, Ryan, Stewart etc.

Other point is that clubs have effectively got only a few weeks of performances to gauge qualities and not the whole year as would otherwise be the case, therefore we'd be extremely lucky to find a diamond in the rough we may think we shall.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

It really was a ruckman rule if of the planned benefit - Zac Clarke could’ve gone last year, Knoll this year to try and plug holes on a list with the limited numbers & when injury strikes.

That being said, Tim Kelly would have handy 2 years ago when we had our eye on him.

Should have been more basis on mature player in the ruling to be eligible.

I'm no expert on this subject, but wasn't it the extremely poor success rate of draftees that caused the previous mid season draft to be abandoned? I'm happy to be proven wrong , but lets see how many oldies make it this time.

 

[The Bighouse]

Just on the point of over-agers.

I don't recall just how many quality over-agers have come about in, let's say the past 5 years. (No point going back much further.)
That being 18 year olds that missed being selected in the drafts, but then picked up in the following draft when 19.
Given history, we'd be extremely 'lucky' to be picking up someone who would have likely gone in this 25-30 bracket in the ND.

I feel the better players have come via State leagues - Kelly, Ryan, Stewart etc.

Geelong is certainly ploughing that field.
Stewart, Kelly, Menegola, Atkins, Fort, Abbot (+ Kreuger) with the state leaguers - with some pretty good results close to AA nomination.

GCFC also took Burgess, Corbett & Collins last year, players that could have likely plucked if a mid-season draft was on last year.

 

[The Bighouse]

Wouldn’t mind Frank the Tank to be called out for us, along with Sam Fisher + the best young player at #1. A couple of positions required to be opened up over the w/end.

“Frank Anderson has gone from obscurity to intriguing prospect ahead of Monday's NAB AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft http://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-05-25/from-suburban-footy-to-centrestage-ballwinners-blistering-rise”

 

[AlecDuncan]

This business has the whiff of diminishing returns.

None of the hyped potentials on the AFL site seem even as good as Nick Graham.

Maybe there’s more gold to be found in the Interstate comps, but I doubt it.

 

[footyfan1978]

Good to see a new rule actuality benefiting us for a change..

I suspect and hope that next year they remove any teenagers from it and it purpose existence is for mature aged state league players only.

 

[footyfan1978]

I'm no expert on this subject, but wasn't it the extremely poor success rate of draftees that caused the previous mid season draft to be abandoned? I'm happy to be proven wrong , but lets see how many oldies make it this time.

The last mid season draft was so long ago it does not have much relevance to the path ways and systems in now.
It was so long ago the youngsters that had been coming through to AFL clubs were through under 19's systems in Victoria which was still the old zone system being phased out. Plus clubs had nothing like the time investment and staff they do now. So most of kids then were still not even in the National Draft. They were already attached to some AFL club in Victoria or attached to Eagles in WA as an example. So hard to compare 1993 mid season draft to 2019 rookie mid season draft.

 

[footyfan1978]

Just on the point of over-agers.

I don't recall just how many quality over-agers have come about in, let's say the past 5 years. (No point going back much further.)
That being 18 year olds that missed being selected in the drafts, but then picked up in the following draft when 19.

I do not know either. There is usually a few injured but whether they were elite and injured is purely random each year. Quick browse finds guys like Aliir Aliir, Tom Langdon, Charlie Cameron, Braydon Pruess, Adam Saad, Tom Phillips, Tom Papley. Tim English and Liam Baker, Kierna Briggs and Noah Answerth that missed their draft year as 18 year olds getting picked up for some reason or another. Tall guys like Ben Brown, Rory Lobb and Toby Nankervis not drafted until about 20 I believe. So clubs should believe there is at least one or two guys that 19 or 20 that worth looking at before you look into the guys a bit older.

Maybe Kyle Dunkley or Cody Hirst are the next Tom Phillips or Tom Papley. Here is hoping that type of quality exists in top 2 or 3 picks to find.

 

[footyfan1978]

And the problem with this is? I really doubt if any over age players would slot into any AFL team half way through the season.

It is not really a problem for us. More a general frustration for 21 to 25 year olds that thought more opportunities for them are not what they seemed at this point.

 

[Blutopia]

what if there is an earthquake? anyone know?

Might rattle you enough to stop posting crazy posts

 

[footyfan1978]

Not even an earthquake could stop that.

 

[Pafloyul]

The Vic players either get drafted or get lost in the system, that's because there are more Victorian based clubs who put more time into the Vic kids in regards to late selections. I believe the interstate 'Colts' competition goes up to 19 whereas the few who are still around on the Nab league/TAC Cup at that age are considered an afterthought at best.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

This business has the whiff of diminishing returns.

None of the hyped potentials on the AFL site seem even as good as Nick Graham.

Maybe there’s more gold to be found in the Interstate comps, but I doubt it.

If it was around a few years back, we would have picked up Tim Kelly...we were already linked to him...so there may well be gold in dem der hills...

 

[bmaurizio]

I’ve got a gut feel we’ll go with Sam Fisher NB, liked his efforts for this year neat skills has good kick too could help in the forward line.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Sam Lowson and Marlion Pickett updates...couldn't have come at a worse time for them, although appears not major injuries

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...l/news-story/0b2d4bdf5968ecbf4aa9fa799bc2fcf1

 

[Blue Bloods]

Geelong is certainly ploughing that field.
Stewart, Kelly, Menegola, Atkins, Fort, Abbot (+ Kreuger) with the state leaguers - with some pretty good results close to AA nomination.

GCFC also took Burgess, Corbett & Collins last year, players that could have likely plucked if a mid-season draft was on last year.

Geelong have drafted beautifully for many years now.

We should just hire a Cyber Geek to steal all their information sack all our recruitment/draft specialist would save a heap of cash.

 

[The Bighouse]

Geelong have drafted beautifully for many years now.

We should just hire a Cyber Geek to steal all their information sack all our recruitment/draft specialist would save a heap of cash.

They had a brief stint of mediocrity at drafting with a few misses at the top.

We certainly haven’t had success with traded players from them recently.

Edit from today’s VFL “Big man Nathan Kreuger starred in Geelong’s thumping 77pt win over Coburg, kicking 6 goals in the 1st 3 quarters”

 

[Blue Bloods]

They had a brief stint of mediocrity at drafting with a few misses at the top.

We certainly haven’t had success with traded players from with them recently.

Henderson a win for us, I think we got Charlie with the pick.

But yeah they have sent us a few spuds in return.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Henderson a win for us, I think we got Charlie with the pick.

But yeah they have sent us a few spuds in return.

We got Harry with the GWS pick after we traded the future Geelong pick to GWS. All came from that Hendo trade though.

 

[gandaal]

They had a brief stint of mediocrity at drafting with a few misses at the top.

We certainly haven’t had success with traded players from them recently.

Edit from today’s VFL “Big man Nathan Kreuger starred in Geelong’s thumping 77pt win over Coburg, kicking 6 goals in the 1st 3 quarters”

Picked up with the compensation pick we gave them for pick 42.