List Mgmt. 2018 Draft Watch - Depth Chart In OP

[Lsta062]

No drafting light bodied players who are going to be project players with our first pick, we all know how Corey Ellis turned out.

Yeah but Corey Ellis is not the rule. To me, he was a surprising selection even back then.

You take the most talented at your first pick. If they are ready, then great. If they are project players, then still great. As long as they are talented it should not be a big deal.

Trading, rookie selections and the picks after the Round 1 picks is where you can stay away from lightweight project players if you are in Premiership contention IMO.

 

[Grrr]

No drafting light bodied players who are going to be project players with our first pick, we all know how Corey Ellis turned out.

or Dan Rioli.
Okay to be light bodied if you have pace eg. like Naish, but yeah not with our first picck.

 

[yellowandblack21]

On the podcast Blair said we plan to take 4 players in the draft, giving us 38 senior listed players. Does that mean we need to have 6 rookies? Every club has 44 players on their without category b rookies so I assume you have to have 44? If that’s the case we will need to take 5 rookies this year as we only have Baker at this stage. Derik Smith doesn’t count as he is a category b.

According to the afl website, there's no minimum number:
"Rookie lists are now recognised as a key list management tool and designating a minimum number of rookies is no longer necessary as it is purely a club decision."
So I think that means we could in theory go with a list of 38 + Baker next year. Unlikely though, the cap is tight but not that tight.
Will probably re-rookie Chol if the rookie draft is devoid of tall talent.

 

[GoTigers2015]

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[Tigers Time]

Anyone of note in our recruiting zone Acdamey has had a good year we could look at ?.

Kyle Clark small mid. Consistently in the bests in the TAC

 

[NZ_Tiger]

The average number of players cut from each teams list this year was 10.1. Imo we get it wrong as supporters as all teams are in perpetual rebuild.
GCS this yr have cleaned out 16 players thats an awful lot in anyones language.

Ive had a look at our list and outside of juniors we have another 9 or 10 who are either in decline have not done a lot or are still very inconsistent.
The number of players from each club that were delisted/traded/retired this yr
Adelaide - 9
Brisbane - 10
Carlton - 12
Collingwood - 8
Essendon - 6
Fremantle - 11
Geelong - 11
Gold Coast - 16
Gws - 7
Hawthorn - 10
Melbourne - 11
North - 12
Port - 11
Richmond - 10
StKilda - 9
Sydney - 11
WCE - 9
Footscray 10

In previous yrs the average has been around 8 to 9.

There’s considered to be more talent this year so it would make sense that clubs held off delisting last year in anticipation.


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[db26]

Kyle Clark small mid. Consistently in the bests in the TAC

There was a young Sudanese boy to KP player regularly in the best not sure if his surname was Dang.

 

[_RT_]

Ajak Dang
Phillip Simmons
Kyle Clark

These 3 are the NGA kids that could be looked at as rookie picks.

 

[_RT_]

My first real crack at doing a phantom draft and so far I've done the first 2 rounds. With live trading happening this year. I've made 1 trade but it's a big one with Carlton trading pick 1 and 2019 R1 pick to Gold Coast for picks 3 & 6 in the draft this year. I've done this based on Carlton going to take Walsh withthe Suns are going to take Lukosius and Rankine if the picks stayed the same. By making this trade the Blues get 2 cracks at the early talent in the draft and can bolster their midfield talent.

I have the Saints bidding on Blakey at pick 4 with the Swans matching, Tarryn Thomas(North) Issac Quaynor(Pies) & Rhylee West(Dogs) are also matched bids in the first round. In the second round Connor McFadyen(Lions) Bailey Scott(North) Will Kelly(Pies) Keiran Briggs(GWS) & Jarrod Cameron(WCE) are all matched bids.

*Disclaimer - I don't watch these kids, all my information is based on reading opinions on the kids, plus I have done depth charts on every club and tried to combine best available with list needs to put players in order.

2018 Phantom Draft

Pick Club Name Height Weight Position
1. Gold Coast Jack Lukosius 194cm 85kg KPF
2. Gold Coast Izak Rankine 180cm 76kg General Forward
3. Carlton Sam Walsh 183cm 74kg Midfielder
4. Swans Nick Blakey 195cm 85kg KPF
5. Saints Max King 201cm 84kg KPF
6. Port Connor Rozee 184cm 72kg Midfielder
7. Carlton Bailey Smith 184cm 79kg Midfielder
8. Bulldogs Ben King 202cm 85kg KPF
9. Adelaide Jackson Hately 190cm 81kg Midfielder
10. North Tarryn Thomas 189cm 73kg Midfielder
11. GWS Bailey Williams 198cm 95kg Ruck
12. Port Liam Stocker 184cm 83kg Midfielder
13. Collingwood Issac Quaynor 182cm 82kg Defender
14. GWS Xavier Duursma 185cm 71kg Defender
15. Geelong Jye Caldwell 186cm 71kg Midfielder
16. Adelaide Riley Collier-Dawkins 193cm 88kg Midfielder
17. Fremantle Ian Hill 175cm 76kg Small Forward
18. Port Chayce Jones 180cm 74kg Midfielder
19. Adelaide Luke Valente 186cm 80kg Midfielder
20. Richmond Xavier O'Halloran 186cm 82kg Midfielder
21. Brisbane Curtis Taylor 186cm 79kg Forward
22. Bulldogs Rhylee West 180cm 80kg Midfielder
23. GWS Zak Butters 181cm 70kg Midfielder

24. West Coast Ely Smith 188cm 86kg Midfielder
25. Adelaide Jordan Clark 182cm 78kg Forward
26. West Coast Luke Foley 187cm 75kg Midfielder
27. Brisbane Connor McFadyen 190cm 88kg Midfielder
28. Melbourne Jez McLennan 183cm 81kg Defender
29. North Bailey Scott 186cm 74kg Midfielder
30. Gold Coast Sam Sturt 188cm 78kg Forward
31. Collingwood Will Kelly 193cm 83kg KPD
32. GWS Damon Greaves 186cm 74kg Defender
33. Melbourne Fraser Turner 186cm 75kg Midfielder
34. Gold Coast Jacob Kennerley 184cm 76kg Midfielder
35. Fremantle Sydney Stack 177cm 72kg Defender
36. GWS Keiran Briggs 200cm 98kg Ruck
37. Bulldogs Riley Bowman 198cm 82kg Ruck
38. Essendon Ned McHenry 178cm 71kg Midfielder
39. WCE Jarrod Cameron 180cm 69kg Small Forward
40. Brisbane Thomas Berry 185cm 76kg Midfielder
41. Saints William Kennedy 198cm 86kg Ruck/Forward
42. Richmond Tom Sparrow 182cm 81kg Midfielder
43. Sydney Jacob Koschitzke 196cm 94kg KPD

Carlton Trades pick 1 and 2019 R1 to Suns for picks 3 & 6
Saints bid on Nick Blakey at pick 4 Swans Match using 26 33 & 38 becomes 62
GWS bid on Tarryn Thomas at 9, North Matches using 40 45 46 & 47 becoming 52
GWS bid on Issac Quaynor at 13. Pies match using 40 42 & 53 becoming 66
GWS bid on Rhylee West. Dogs match using 29.
Demons bid on Connor McFadyen. Brisbane matches using 32 getting 67 & 73 back
Suns bid on Bailey Scott. North matches using 49 & 51 with 65 coming back
GWS bid on Will Kelly at 31. Pies match using 52 & 53 getting 67 back
Bulldogs bid on Keiran Briggs at 36. GWS matches with pick 48
Brisbane bid on Jarrod Cameron at 39. WCE matches at with 53 getting 69 back

 

[db26]

Gez loved the good old days you got pick 17 stays at pick 17 and our second round pushed in to the forties.I don't like that system at all I know free agency plays a part in it.

 

[JR82]

Gez loved the good old days you got pick 17 stays at pick 17 and our second round pushed in to the forties.I don't like that system at all I know free agency plays a part in it.

The system is a rort & compromises the Draft every year.

 

[Tigers Time]

My first real crack at doing a phantom draft and so far I've done the first 2 rounds. With live trading happening this year. I've made 1 trade but it's a big one with Carlton trading pick 1 and 2019 R1 pick to Gold Coast for picks 3 & 6 in the draft this year. I've done this based on Carlton going to take Walsh withthe Suns are going to take Lukosius and Rankine if the picks stayed the same. By making this trade the Blues get 2 cracks at the early talent in the draft and can bolster their midfield talent.

I have the Saints bidding on Blakey at pick 4 with the Swans matching, Tarryn Thomas(North) Issac Quaynor(Pies) & Rhylee West(Dogs) are also matched bids in the first round. In the second round Connor McFadyen(Lions) Bailey Scott(North) Will Kelly(Pies) Keiran Briggs(GWS) & Jarrod Cameron(WCE) are all matched bids.

*Disclaimer - I don't watch these kids, all my information is based on reading opinions on the kids, plus I have done depth charts on every club and tried to combine best available with list needs to put players in order.

2018 Phantom Draft

Pick Club Name Height Weight Position
1. Gold Coast Jack Lukosius 194cm 85kg KPF
2. Gold Coast Izak Rankine 180cm 76kg General Forward
3. Carlton Sam Walsh 183cm 74kg Midfielder
4. Swans Nick Blakey 195cm 85kg KPF
5. Saints Max King 201cm 84kg KPF
6. Port Connor Rozee 184cm 72kg Midfielder
7. Carlton Bailey Smith 184cm 79kg Midfielder
8. Bulldogs Ben King 202cm 85kg KPF
9. Adelaide Jackson Hately 190cm 81kg Midfielder
10. North Tarryn Thomas 189cm 73kg Midfielder
11. GWS Bailey Williams 198cm 95kg Ruck
12. Port Liam Stocker 184cm 83kg Midfielder
13. Collingwood Issac Quaynor 182cm 82kg Defender
14. GWS Xavier Duursma 185cm 71kg Defender
15. Geelong Jye Caldwell 186cm 71kg Midfielder
16. Adelaide Riley Collier-Dawkins 193cm 88kg Midfielder
17. Fremantle Ian Hill 175cm 76kg Small Forward
18. Port Chayce Jones 180cm 74kg Midfielder
19. Adelaide Luke Valente 186cm 80kg Midfielder
20. Richmond Xavier O'Halloran 186cm 82kg Midfielder
21. Brisbane Curtis Taylor 186cm 79kg Forward
22. Bulldogs Rhylee West 180cm 80kg Midfielder
23. GWS Zak Butters 181cm 70kg Midfielder

24. West Coast Ely Smith 188cm 86kg Midfielder
25. Adelaide Jordan Clark 182cm 78kg Forward
26. West Coast Luke Foley 187cm 75kg Midfielder
27. Brisbane Connor McFadyen 190cm 88kg Midfielder
28. Melbourne Jez McLennan 183cm 81kg Defender
29. North Bailey Scott 186cm 74kg Midfielder
30. Gold Coast Sam Sturt 188cm 78kg Forward
31. Collingwood Will Kelly 193cm 83kg KPD
32. GWS Zak Butters 181cm 71kg Midfielder
33. Melbourne Fraser Turner 186cm 75kg Midfielder
34. Gold Coast Jacob Kennerley 184cm 76kg Midfielder
35. Fremantle Sydney Stack 177cm 72kg Defender
36. GWS Keiran Briggs 200cm 98kg Ruck
37. Bulldogs Riley Bowman 198cm 82kg Ruck
38. Essendon Ned McHenry 178cm 71kg Midfielder
39. WCE Jarrod Cameron 180cm 69kg Small Forward
40. Brisbane Thomas Berry 185cm 76kg Midfielder
41. Saints William Kennedy 198cm 86kg Ruck/Forward
42. Richmond Tom Sparrow 182cm 81kg Midfielder
43. Sydney Jacob Koschitzke 196cm 94kg KPD

Carlton Trades pick 1 and 2019 R1 to Suns for picks 3 & 6
Saints bid on Nick Blakey at pick 4 Swans Match using 26 33 & 38 becomes 62
GWS bid on Tarryn Thomas at 9, North Matches using 40 45 46 & 47 becoming 52
GWS bid on Issac Quaynor at 13. Pies match using 40 42 & 53 becoming 66
GWS bid on Rhylee West. Dogs match using 29.
Demons bid on Connor McFadyen. Brisbane matches using 32 getting 67 & 73 back
Suns bid on Bailey Scott. North matches using 49 & 51 with 65 coming back
GWS bid on Will Kelly at 31. Pies match using 52 & 53 getting 67 back
Bulldogs bid on Keiran Briggs at 36. GWS matches with pick 48
Brisbane bid on Jarrod Cameron at 39. WCE matches at with 53 getting 69 back

You’ve got gws taking Zac Butters twice.

 

[RobsJourney]

My first real crack at doing a phantom draft and so far I've done the first 2 rounds. With live trading happening this year. I've made 1 trade but it's a big one with Carlton trading pick 1 and 2019 R1 pick to Gold Coast for picks 3 & 6 in the draft this year. I've done this based on Carlton going to take Walsh withthe Suns are going to take Lukosius and Rankine if the picks stayed the same. By making this trade the Blues get 2 cracks at the early talent in the draft and can bolster their midfield talent.

I have the Saints bidding on Blakey at pick 4 with the Swans matching, Tarryn Thomas(North) Issac Quaynor(Pies) & Rhylee West(Dogs) are also matched bids in the first round. In the second round Connor McFadyen(Lions) Bailey Scott(North) Will Kelly(Pies) Keiran Briggs(GWS) & Jarrod Cameron(WCE) are all matched bids.

*Disclaimer - I don't watch these kids, all my information is based on reading opinions on the kids, plus I have done depth charts on every club and tried to combine best available with list needs to put players in order.

2018 Phantom Draft

Pick Club Name Height Weight Position
1. Gold Coast Jack Lukosius 194cm 85kg KPF
2. Gold Coast Izak Rankine 180cm 76kg General Forward
3. Carlton Sam Walsh 183cm 74kg Midfielder
4. Swans Nick Blakey 195cm 85kg KPF
5. Saints Max King 201cm 84kg KPF
6. Port Connor Rozee 184cm 72kg Midfielder
7. Carlton Bailey Smith 184cm 79kg Midfielder
8. Bulldogs Ben King 202cm 85kg KPF
9. Adelaide Jackson Hately 190cm 81kg Midfielder
10. North Tarryn Thomas 189cm 73kg Midfielder
11. GWS Bailey Williams 198cm 95kg Ruck
12. Port Liam Stocker 184cm 83kg Midfielder
13. Collingwood Issac Quaynor 182cm 82kg Defender
14. GWS Xavier Duursma 185cm 71kg Defender
15. Geelong Jye Caldwell 186cm 71kg Midfielder
16. Adelaide Riley Collier-Dawkins 193cm 88kg Midfielder
17. Fremantle Ian Hill 175cm 76kg Small Forward
18. Port Chayce Jones 180cm 74kg Midfielder
19. Adelaide Luke Valente 186cm 80kg Midfielder
20. Richmond Xavier O'Halloran 186cm 82kg Midfielder
21. Brisbane Curtis Taylor 186cm 79kg Forward
22. Bulldogs Rhylee West 180cm 80kg Midfielder
23. GWS Zak Butters 181cm 70kg Midfielder

24. West Coast Ely Smith 188cm 86kg Midfielder
25. Adelaide Jordan Clark 182cm 78kg Forward
26. West Coast Luke Foley 187cm 75kg Midfielder
27. Brisbane Connor McFadyen 190cm 88kg Midfielder
28. Melbourne Jez McLennan 183cm 81kg Defender
29. North Bailey Scott 186cm 74kg Midfielder
30. Gold Coast Sam Sturt 188cm 78kg Forward
31. Collingwood Will Kelly 193cm 83kg KPD
32. GWS Zak Butters 181cm 71kg Midfielder
33. Melbourne Fraser Turner 186cm 75kg Midfielder
34. Gold Coast Jacob Kennerley 184cm 76kg Midfielder
35. Fremantle Sydney Stack 177cm 72kg Defender
36. GWS Keiran Briggs 200cm 98kg Ruck
37. Bulldogs Riley Bowman 198cm 82kg Ruck
38. Essendon Ned McHenry 178cm 71kg Midfielder
39. WCE Jarrod Cameron 180cm 69kg Small Forward
40. Brisbane Thomas Berry 185cm 76kg Midfielder
41. Saints William Kennedy 198cm 86kg Ruck/Forward
42. Richmond Tom Sparrow 182cm 81kg Midfielder
43. Sydney Jacob Koschitzke 196cm 94kg KPD

Carlton Trades pick 1 and 2019 R1 to Suns for picks 3 & 6
Saints bid on Nick Blakey at pick 4 Swans Match using 26 33 & 38 becomes 62
GWS bid on Tarryn Thomas at 9, North Matches using 40 45 46 & 47 becoming 52
GWS bid on Issac Quaynor at 13. Pies match using 40 42 & 53 becoming 66
GWS bid on Rhylee West. Dogs match using 29.
Demons bid on Connor McFadyen. Brisbane matches using 32 getting 67 & 73 back
Suns bid on Bailey Scott. North matches using 49 & 51 with 65 coming back
GWS bid on Will Kelly at 31. Pies match using 52 & 53 getting 67 back
Bulldogs bid on Keiran Briggs at 36. GWS matches with pick 48
Brisbane bid on Jarrod Cameron at 39. WCE matches at with 53 getting 69 back

Hmm, O Halloran and Sparrow looked just okay, nothing special

 

[_RT_]

You’ve got gws taking Zac Butters twice.

So I have, hard to keep track of everyone.

Looking back it should have been Damon Greaves as I was looking at a long term Shaw replacement for them.

 

[_RT_]

Gez loved the good old days you got pick 17 stays at pick 17 and our second round pushed in to the forties.I don't like that system at all I know free agency plays a part in it.

It's not free agency that does it, but the father/son and academy kid bids. This ensures that they are going at a spot where they should rather than the old days when a kid who might be a top 10 talent went with a pick in the 40's.

 

[_RT_]

Hmm, O Halloran and Sparrow looked just okay, nothing special

You're not always going to get special players. The key is to get kids who are going to be solid players. O'Halloran looks to have all the tools to be a very good player at the top level. When the next pick isn't coming until the 40s again you're hard pressed trying to pick up stars, but if you can get yourself players who can develop into solid types with a good chance of being a long term player that is what you want to do.

It's funny when most people sit down to start reading up and looking at the kids they start thinking I'd like to have him with our first pick and this potential gun with our next pick and at our 3rd pick we get a gun who might slide. But when you sit down and look at all 18 clubs taking kids you soon realise that your chance of landing guns with all your picks are pretty bloody slim.

I've made the above list off of about 3 weeks of study, pretty much cashing in on the work those that do watch the kids have done, with the aim of doing nothing more than giving people an idea of who goes where and why we might not get Stocker & Smith with our first 2 picks like many seem to be hoping we will do.

 

[db26]

Hoping Tom Lewis is around our second pick from SA bull inside midfielder.

 

[08elf]

My first real crack at doing a phantom draft and so far I've done the first 2 rounds. With live trading happening this year. I've made 1 trade but it's a big one with Carlton trading pick 1 and 2019 R1 pick to Gold Coast for picks 3 & 6 in the draft this year. I've done this based on Carlton going to take Walsh withthe Suns are going to take Lukosius and Rankine if the picks stayed the same. By making this trade the Blues get 2 cracks at the early talent in the draft and can bolster their midfield talent.

I have the Saints bidding on Blakey at pick 4 with the Swans matching, Tarryn Thomas(North) Issac Quaynor(Pies) & Rhylee West(Dogs) are also matched bids in the first round. In the second round Connor McFadyen(Lions) Bailey Scott(North) Will Kelly(Pies) Keiran Briggs(GWS) & Jarrod Cameron(WCE) are all matched bids.

*Disclaimer - I don't watch these kids, all my information is based on reading opinions on the kids, plus I have done depth charts on every club and tried to combine best available with list needs to put players in order.

2018 Phantom Draft

Pick Club Name Height Weight Position
1. Gold Coast Jack Lukosius 194cm 85kg KPF
2. Gold Coast Izak Rankine 180cm 76kg General Forward
3. Carlton Sam Walsh 183cm 74kg Midfielder
4. Swans Nick Blakey 195cm 85kg KPF
5. Saints Max King 201cm 84kg KPF
6. Port Connor Rozee 184cm 72kg Midfielder
7. Carlton Bailey Smith 184cm 79kg Midfielder
8. Bulldogs Ben King 202cm 85kg KPF
9. Adelaide Jackson Hately 190cm 81kg Midfielder
10. North Tarryn Thomas 189cm 73kg Midfielder
11. GWS Bailey Williams 198cm 95kg Ruck
12. Port Liam Stocker 184cm 83kg Midfielder
13. Collingwood Issac Quaynor 182cm 82kg Defender
14. GWS Xavier Duursma 185cm 71kg Defender
15. Geelong Jye Caldwell 186cm 71kg Midfielder
16. Adelaide Riley Collier-Dawkins 193cm 88kg Midfielder
17. Fremantle Ian Hill 175cm 76kg Small Forward
18. Port Chayce Jones 180cm 74kg Midfielder
19. Adelaide Luke Valente 186cm 80kg Midfielder
20. Richmond Xavier O'Halloran 186cm 82kg Midfielder
21. Brisbane Curtis Taylor 186cm 79kg Forward
22. Bulldogs Rhylee West 180cm 80kg Midfielder
23. GWS Zak Butters 181cm 70kg Midfielder

24. West Coast Ely Smith 188cm 86kg Midfielder
25. Adelaide Jordan Clark 182cm 78kg Forward
26. West Coast Luke Foley 187cm 75kg Midfielder
27. Brisbane Connor McFadyen 190cm 88kg Midfielder
28. Melbourne Jez McLennan 183cm 81kg Defender
29. North Bailey Scott 186cm 74kg Midfielder
30. Gold Coast Sam Sturt 188cm 78kg Forward
31. Collingwood Will Kelly 193cm 83kg KPD
32. GWS Damon Greaves 186cm 74kg Defender
33. Melbourne Fraser Turner 186cm 75kg Midfielder
34. Gold Coast Jacob Kennerley 184cm 76kg Midfielder
35. Fremantle Sydney Stack 177cm 72kg Defender
36. GWS Keiran Briggs 200cm 98kg Ruck
37. Bulldogs Riley Bowman 198cm 82kg Ruck
38. Essendon Ned McHenry 178cm 71kg Midfielder
39. WCE Jarrod Cameron 180cm 69kg Small Forward
40. Brisbane Thomas Berry 185cm 76kg Midfielder
41. Saints William Kennedy 198cm 86kg Ruck/Forward
42. Richmond Tom Sparrow 182cm 81kg Midfielder
43. Sydney Jacob Koschitzke 196cm 94kg KPD

Carlton Trades pick 1 and 2019 R1 to Suns for picks 3 & 6
Saints bid on Nick Blakey at pick 4 Swans Match using 26 33 & 38 becomes 62
GWS bid on Tarryn Thomas at 9, North Matches using 40 45 46 & 47 becoming 52
GWS bid on Issac Quaynor at 13. Pies match using 40 42 & 53 becoming 66
GWS bid on Rhylee West. Dogs match using 29.
Demons bid on Connor McFadyen. Brisbane matches using 32 getting 67 & 73 back
Suns bid on Bailey Scott. North matches using 49 & 51 with 65 coming back
GWS bid on Will Kelly at 31. Pies match using 52 & 53 getting 67 back
Bulldogs bid on Keiran Briggs at 36. GWS matches with pick 48
Brisbane bid on Jarrod Cameron at 39. WCE matches at with 53 getting 69 back

The Suns aren't worried about the Blues taking Lukocious, so I don't get why they'd bother trading for pick #1. If they wanted Lukocious and Rainkine pick 2&3 will likely get that done anyway.

Else they'll be able to get Rozee and Lukocious or in the worst case where Carlton take Lukocious, they get Walsh + Rainkine. Given the state of their midfield after the draft, I can't see them giving to picks away for a future season pick.

 

[_RT_]

Hoping Tom Lewis is around our second pick from SA bull inside midfielder.

Chance he could be there for our 3rd pick, which won't be as late as people think if all the bidding happens as some think. Our 3 4th round picks could all be before the mid 60's.

 

[JR82]

It's not free agency that does it, but the father/son and academy kid bids. This ensures that they are going at a spot where they should rather than the old days when a kid who might be a top 10 talent went with a pick in the 40's.

What i hate about it is a kid like Heeney, instead of going to Brisbane who at the time could have really used a kid like him, goes to Sydney who are already a contender & it boosts them up even further. Another example this yr, Blakey is F/S eligible at 2 Clubs but Sydney get to jump them via thier Academy, which is meant to be for kids who are from Non AFL parts of the Country...
It massively compromises the Draft every yr but the media won't touch it because it's a Northern State Club...

As for the argument they'd be lost to AFL if they didn't go to the Swans? spare me! if they want to come home the Swans can trade for them like the Vic Clubs etc have to do to get get thier kids back home

 

[_RT_]

The Suns aren't worried about the Blues taking Lukocious, so I don't get why they'd bother trading for pick #1. If they wanted Lukocious and Rainkine pick 2&3 will likely get that done anyway.

Else they'll be able to get Rozee and Lukocious or in the worst case where Carlton take Lukocious, they get Walsh + Rainkine. Given the state of their midfield after the draft, I can't see them giving to picks away for a future season pick.

Suns are in a massive rebuild, so trading for Carltons first next year, likely to be a top 5 pick, helps them spread their rebuild. Using what I put forward they'd have picks 1 & 2 this year and picks 1 & say 3 next year. Will it happen unlikely but given Carlton also have only 1 pick in the first 3 rounds and that being pick 1 I can see them doing something like what I suggest to try and get another pick inside the top 10 as there are a few teams they could do a deal with.

 

[_RT_]

What i hate about it is a kid like Heeney, instead of going to Brisbane who at the time could have really used a kid like him, goes to Sydney who are already a contender & it boosts them up even further. Another example this yr, Blakey is F/S eligible at 2 Clubs but Sydney get to jump them via thier Academy, which is meant to be for kids who are from Non AFL parts of the Country...
It massively compromises the Draft every yr but the media won't touch it because it's a Northern State Club...

As for the argument they'd be lost to AFL if they didn't go to the Swans? spare me! if they want to come home the Swans can trade for them like the Vic Clubs etc have to do to get get thier kids back home

Blakey has been living in NSW since birth IIRC so is a kid from a non AFL part of the country. The fact that his dad played 100 game for 2 different clubs just means that the kid gets to pick where he wants to go and Sydney still has to pay the price that another club bids for him, which means that the swag of picks they gathered later in the draft are in effect useless.

For example if the Saints did bid on him at 4 the Swans lose 3 second round picks to get him, so while they get him they move down the order again, which then moves other clubs move up earlier in the round, but others get pushed back. At the end of the day it actually works out. Had the system not been changed the Swans could have got Heeney for a second/third round pick, now that would have been stuffed as they would have also got access at another kid with their first pick as well.

 

[El Duderino]

going by _RT_'s draft, i'd take Sturt and Bytel purely for the dreaded X factor.

 

[Disco_Stu]

I have added as an extension in Firefox and works on the following sites (according to the info they give).

Some alarming permissions you're giving to the Addon, no?

"The extension can read the content of any web page you visit as well as data you enter into those web pages, such as usernames and passwords. Extensions requesting this permission might:

• Read product and price information from a page to help find you the best price on items you're shopping for
• Offer a password manager that reads and writes details of your username and password
• Provide an Platinum Membership - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/account/upgrades by reading the content of each web page you open to find and remove ad code"

Just how safe is this to install? I assume many of us use the same browser for ebay, and banking and stuff... What does it do with the "usernames and passwords" that it reads?

 

[GoTigers2015]

Some alarming permissions you're giving to the Addon, no?

"The extension can read the content of any web page you visit as well as data you enter into those web pages, such as usernames and passwords. Extensions requesting this permission might:

• Read product and price information from a page to help find you the best price on items you're shopping for
• Offer a password manager that reads and writes details of your username and password
• Provide an Platinum Membership - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/account/upgrades by reading the content of each web page you open to find and remove ad code"

Just how safe is this to install? I assume many of us use the same browser for ebay, and banking and stuff... What does it do with the "usernames and passwords" that it reads?

Where did you get that information from?