List Mgmt. 2019/20 Trade/Delist/Re-sign Predictions/Opinion (now with TRADE RADIO)

[Mike Smyth]

Most likely, but really, getting an asset like that is at the price we did is still worth the investment.

Most likely, but really, getting an asset like that is at the price we did is still worth the investment.

Just of interest has a 19 year old ever left a club one year into his first contract..

 

[Golumless]

Just of interest has a 19 year old ever left a club one year into his first contract..

If you're just looking at first year players requesting a trade - Tim Kelly springs to mind.

19 year old, high draft picks however tend to not be until they're out of contract at a minimum and even then it's rare, and usually requiring a dump truck full of money. Still, you're much more likely once they hit FA then any other time, though that doesn't remove the requiring a dump truck full of money part.

That said, it is inevitable that it will occur eventually.

 

[Mike Smyth]

If you're just looking at first year players requesting a trade - Tim Kelly springs to mind.

19 year old, high draft picks however tend to not be until they're out of contract at a minimum and even then it's rare, and usually requiring a dump truck full of money. Still, you're much more likely once they hit FA then any other time, though that doesn't remove the requiring a dump truck full of money part.

That said, it is inevitable that it will occur eventually.

Thanks. Let's hope we are about to set a precedent. They owe us. ("....and they'll never, tear.................")

 

[Golumless]

Thanks. Let's hope we are about to set a precedent. They owe us. ("....and they'll never, tear.................")

Potentially, the good news so far that despite Gold Coast going to the media about wanting to get them signed up ASAP, neither has, yet.

I doubt it'll occur until next year if it is going to (without it being a FA thing). There is a lot of incentive to finish the contract off at Gold Coast, seeing it'd be an easy way to get 20-40 games into you which is enough time to show if you're on a star trajectory. Do that, and you could be looking at both of them potentially getting similar money that Lever attracted.

 

[jackster83]

Just of interest has a 19 year old ever left a club one year into his first contract..

Tom Boyd

 

[Bicks]

Interesting that the very talented Victorian Harley Balic best remembered as the player that was offered a shed load of dough by his father to stay home with Mummy after he was drafted by Freo.

Then transferred back home to the Demons for a late draft pick and upon resuming he lit up the VFL in the hand full of games he played before wanting out altogether. Now running around in the VAFA Division 2 Ammos with the Parkdale Vultures in 2019. Billy Hartung also running around in the same league.

http://websites.sportstg.com/round_...125227512&client=0-3232-36834-514948-26388727

 

[Thetrader15]

Sorry if there is already one going, but I couldn't find any.. I've gone through our current list and put my preferences for 2019/2020;

This is the core of our list moving forward, All are contracted 2020+

(Name // Age(at end of season) // Contract Expiry)

Eddie Betts / 32 / 2020
Bryce Gibbs / 30 / 2021
Rory Sloane / 30 / 2023
Taylor Walker / 29 / 2021
Tom Lynch / 29 / 2021
Daniel Talia / 28 / 2021
Luke Brown / 27 / 2020
Brodie Smith / 27 / 2021
Paul Seedsman / 27 / 2021
Brad Crouch / 25 / 2020
Rory Atkins / 25 / 2020
Rory Laird / 25 / 2021
Matt Crouch / 24 / 2021
Shane McAdam / 24 / 2020
Wayne Milera / 22 / 2020
Tom Doedee / 22 / 2021
Elliot Himmelberg / 21 / 2020
Jordan Gallucci / 21 / 2020
Myles Poholke / 21 / 2020
Andrew McPherson / 20 / 2021
Darcy Fogarty / 20 / 2021
Chayce Jones / 19 / 2020
Lachlan Sholl / 19 / 2020
Ned McHenry / 19 / 2020
Will Hamill / 18 / 2020

This is players with expiring contract in 2019, I'd look to RE-SIGN:

(Name // Age(at end of season))

Sam Jacobs / 31
Alex Keath / 27
Hugh Greenwood / 27
Cam Ellis-Yolmen / 27
Kieran Strachan / 24
Reilly O'Brien / 24
Ben Davis / 22
Tyson Stengle / 21
Lachlan Murphy / 20
Jordan Butts / 19


This is the list of players I'd look to TRADE if any interest:

(Name // Age(at end of season) // Contract Expiry)

Josh Jenkins / 30 / 2021
Jake Kelly / 24 / 2019
Kyle Hartigan / 28 / 2020
Riley Knight / 24 / 2019


This is the list of players I'd look to DELIST at end 2019:

(Name // Age(at end of season))

Richard Douglas / 32
David Mackay / 31
Andy Otten / 30
Paul Hunter / 26
Patrick Wilson / 24

I don't mind this list. My only change would be to trade CEY if there were any takers. Maybe for a project ruck (>205cm)

 

[ABAB]

Our timing is abit out with the Carlton/pick 1 deal. We were too late to use it to draft Luko, Rankine or Rozee and too early to use it to trade for Luko or Rankine.

Carlton is likely to finish bottom 2 or at most 4th last, the top 4 talent is like any other year (except for last year) but from 5+ it isn't as good compared to last year's at this stage and I highly doubt Carlton would have traded future pick for last year given the quality of the top 4 were all consider pick 1 in any draft. They only did this trade as they are thinking of using our 1st rounder to get someone like Kelly (who looks like re-signing) and SOS didn't want to give a high pick to GWS, funnily GWS gave us a "free" 2nd rounder this year from Carlton.

 

[MRB37]

Was told a rumour that if we move Jacobs on then he's got an offer from GWS in that Shane Mumford/Dawson Simpson mature backup role.

 

[Murray2503]

Trade:
Poholke, Kelly, Lynch, Hartigan, Jenkins, Knight, Cey

Retire:
Jacob's, Douglas, Otten, Betts (Feel 2019 might be his last year. Possibly an early retirement.) Mackay(had him on here but playing better as usual final year of contract. Club might give him an extra year,)

Delist:
McPherson

 

[Murray2503]

Was told a rumour that if we move Jacobs on then he's got an offer from GWS in that Shane Mumford/Dawson Simpson mature backup role.

Would be Jacob's best option. Better than retiring here.

 

[MRB37]

Would be Jacob's best option. Better than retiring here.

I would assume it'd have some sort of coaching/development deal on the backend of it to convince him to move.

 

[Bicks]

I would assume it'd have some sort of coaching/development deal on the backend of it to convince him to move.

I reckon there's more chance Sam will be suiting up for Ardrossan than GWS personally.

 

[Bicks]

Trade:
Poholke, Kelly, Lynch, Hartigan, Jenkins, Knight, Cey


Delist:
McPherson

LOL

 

[Mego Red]

RETIRE
Eddie Betts
Sam Jacobs
Andy Otten
Richie Douglas
David Mackay

DELIST

TRADE
Jake Kelly
Josh Jenkins - traded to Melbourne for 2nd round pick

There's $2.5m in salary in that list. I'd be looking for some players we could bring in to spend it. Pick 1 for Lukosius and the Brisbane pick?

 

[Bicks]

RETIRE
Eddie Betts
Sam Jacobs
Andy Otten
Richie Douglas
David Mackay

DELIST

TRADE
Jake Kelly
Josh Jenkins - traded to Melbourne for 2nd round pick

There's $2.5m in salary in that list. I'd be looking for some players we could bring in to spend it. Pick 1 for Lukosius and the Brisbane pick?

Carlton would jump at the chance to get Eddie Betts back still. I'd be keeping Eddie at the club whether as a player, a coach or in a player welfare/development role of sorts.

 

[Golumless]

RETIRE
Eddie Betts
Sam Jacobs
Andy Otten
Richie Douglas
David Mackay

DELIST

TRADE
Jake Kelly
Josh Jenkins - traded to Melbourne for 2nd round pick

There's $2.5m in salary in that list. I'd be looking for some players we could bring in to spend it. Pick 1 for Lukosius and the Brisbane pick?

That is a really bad trade for Brisbane.

 

[conVINCEd]

RETIRE
Eddie Betts
Sam Jacobs
Andy Otten
Richie Douglas
David Mackay

DELIST

TRADE
Jake Kelly
Josh Jenkins - traded to Melbourne for 2nd round pick

There's $2.5m in salary in that list. I'd be looking for some players we could bring in to spend it. Pick 1 for Lukosius and the Brisbane pick?

Betts is contracted to the end of 2020 - you really think he’ll retire early?

 

[GreyCrow]

Was told a rumour that if we move Jacobs on then he's got an offer from GWS in that Shane Mumford/Dawson Simpson mature backup role.

Happy for him

 

[BRL121]

Betts is contracted to the end of 2020 - you really think he’ll retire early?

And I wouldn't want him to.

 

[Mego Red]

Betts is contracted to the end of 2020 - you really think he’ll retire early?

He's said he could, if the game was passing him by.

Chances are he won't, which doesn't bother me that much.

 

[Mego Red]

That is a really bad trade for Brisbane.

?

Gold Coast have Brisbane's pick.

The idea is 1 for Lukosius and pick 9 or so.

Still unlikely, sure - this IS BigFooty.

 

[Golumless]

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Gold Coast have Brisbane's pick.

The idea is 1 for Lukosius and pick 9 or so.

Still unlikely, sure - this IS BigFooty.

Oh I got the idea. That trade is still terrible seeing it's pick 1 for pick 2 + pick 9.

Which would mean Gold Coast who have control over this situation would take a loss.

Our best case is a straight swap of Luko for 1. That'd see GC stand still talent wise.

 

[Bender20]

Betts is contracted to the end of 2020 - you really think he’ll retire early?

I've been told end of the year.
Personally I would say depends on his form.

 

[Pugsley]

For me:

Retire (forcibly or otherwise): Jacobs, Otten, Douglas, Mackay
Delist: Davis (well, demote to rookie list), Hunter, Wilson.

5/1 changes seems right for this year, though of course if you could do this:

Trade: Jenkins (I'd be trying my hardest to break that contract right now).

You do that without any hesitation whatsoever.

Jenkins is becoming very toxic. Shop him around now.