Resource 2019 Draft Watch (we have picks 6 24 25 39 46)

[Jeffcrowe]

Is McAsey a plug and play?
Or requiring more development?

Definitely gets games next year . Key position so I won’t say all season at 18 yo but maybe half of it

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Geez didn't you say yesterday Will Day will be a gun, 3x AA lol?

Talk about absolutes...

Got me there

 

[Dandy_GO]

At home pretty unwell, so thought I'd try a playstation trade. Best chance of getting another first rounder in is if Melbourne bid on Green, which is unlikely but possible.

Not sure what the trade would be, or if the following idea would be cleared by the AFL, as GWS (and Hawthorn) are both restricted by having traded early picks already (but the AFL bend the rules for clubs like the Hawks, so might be possible).

Melbourne bid on Green, GWS match.

GWS Out: 4 - In: 37, 42, 45 + Hawthorn's 2020 1st
Hawks out: 11, 42, 73 2020 1st - In: 4, Crows 2020 2nd
Crows out: 37, 45, 2020 2nd - In: 11, 73

We'd go into the draft (after the Green and Henry bids) with picks 7, 13, 24, 25 + a pick in the 70s
Needs a bit of balancing and very unlikely, as it relies upon Melbourne bidding, GWS matching (they might really want Jackson) Hawthorn really wanting to move that far down the order, GWS not trading with GC or someone else who could give them a very decent deal too etc.

Very unlikely, but it'll be really interesting to see what happens if Melbourne do decide to bid on Green.

 

[Crow till I die]

Just Curious is Fisher McAsey being touted as pick 7 due to outsiders believing that the Crows need a tall defender or is he the 7th best available talent. History shows the Crows go for the best available.

Personally did not have him in the top 10, yes I know he is a tall defender but is he a top 10 re talent.

If he is anything near Ben King in terms of ability..then it is a no brainer to take him at 6 considering not just talent but also list needs. We can use 22 & 23 on mids (although I am really hoping we take Taheny with one of those picks)

 

[Mego Red]

Draft expert now?
Not too early if his knee is alright

Kemp played seven games of footy this year.

He hadn't played midfield before this year. He was only a part-time midfielder during this year. He now is recovering from a knee injury.

He's a great guy to roll the dice on, from 9 to 12. Clubs before that will probably thinking it's too high a risk for a very valuable pick.

 

[Mego Red]

I’d be happy to take the punt on Kemp at 6 looks like can be a David Mundy type midfielder that floats forward at times

That's not what he is. He a big physical utility, who can move into the midfield. Maybe like a defensive non-dickhead Jake Stringer?

 

[Golumless]

Can’t justify pick 6 on a key defender
Can pick them up later on in the draft
Gun midfielder is our need
Key positions covered for now down back

Talia
Hartigan
Kelly can play tall
Sholl
Hamill
Himmelburg
Doedee

You can justify pick 6 on a key defender which can both shutdown, and intercept to a high level. Especially if they have a tool or two which involves kicking skills. You cannot justify pick 6 on a key defender which can only do one of those things to a high level.

Would you pay pick 6 for H.Taylor, J.McGovern, A.Rance? I would.

 

[FAITH]

i like this kid a lot, one of the reasons i wouldve considered trading 6 for geelongs later round 1sts.

This draft prospect battled shin splints in 2019. It won’t stop him being a 1st round pick

This draft prospect battled shin splints in 2019. It won’t stop him being a 1st round pick

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Mego Red]

if HS doesnt rate him, thats cool, but give us some reasons why, dont just make a crazy statement and not back it up.

Maybe he has issues off the field, doesnt work hard enough hey shorty ?

Maybe it's the fact he's probably not played 100 minutes in the midfield in his life, and you guys want to take him to play in the guts?

This year was his year to prove himself as a mid, and he got injured after 7 games. He is a question mark. High risk, high return.

 

[FAITH]

Kemp played seven games of footy this year.

He hadn't played midfield before this year. He was only a part-time midfielder during this year. He now is recovering from a knee injury.

He's a great guy to roll the dice on, from 9 to 12. Clubs before that will probably thinking it's too high a risk for a very valuable pick.

fair points.
when he played though, he was only 2nd to Rowell imo.

 

[Mego Red]

I thought Mcasey had played as a KP Forward ....this backs it up

7. FISCHER McASEY (Adelaide)
Sandringham, 197cm defender
Having been a key forward for much of his junior football, McAsey was moved into defence this year with great effect. An Aaron Naughton clone, he stands the same height as the Western Bulldogs star at 195cm and has similar marking abilities in the air. McAsey is also a good decision maker not only claimed All-Australian honours from the national championships but was also named Vic Metro’s MVP.
STATS SAY: The No. 1 ranked key-position player at the national championships, McAsey also led all key defenders for disposals, marks, intercept possessions and intercept marks.

Literally every comment on McAsey has mentioned he had played as a key forward, and could play as a swingman, ffs.

 

[BrissyCrow]

Actually listening to everyone on here about who we need or should get and all the various opinions I am now just so confused. Personally I want a mid who has clean hands, speed and can break away from the pack, who can kick the ball accurately and preferably with either foot. Who that is is just too confusing to pick. Mutineer">#Mutineer is the poster I feel knows more about who we should pick but he actually likes so many players and this confuses the shit out of me.

All I can say is thank god we have Hamish to sort this all out. Come on Wednesday. But will that be the end of all this. Nope. Everyone will be trying to tell everybody else how little they know and how much he/she knows. I can just see #FAITH and #Mutineer telling each other "see I told you so". Then it will be the excuses or reasoning. That should take at least another month.

Come on Wednesday (and Thursday)

 

[cmndstab]

You can justify pick 6 on a key defender which can both shutdown, and intercept to a high level. Especially if they have a tool or two which involves kicking skills. You cannot justify pick 6 on a key defender which can only do one of those things to a high level.

Would you pay pick 6 for H.Taylor, J.McGovern, A.Rance? I would.

It's no coincidence those guys weren't taken with super early draft picks, though. Taylor a first round, yes, but even then was seen as a slight reach at the time, since he was a mature ager (seems weird to call a 19 year old "mature age", but you get my point)

Most of the players of that ilk don't work out - they're a bit like ruckmen. Maybe they work out, most likely they don't, and their pre-draft ranking seems have very little bearing on it.

 

[Mego Red]

I don't hate McAsey at 7, if we go for outside run and midfield strength at 22 and 23 - Stephens, Schoenberg, O'Neill, Sharp, etc.

McAsey and Gould as our first two picks would be a bit worrying.

 

[Dandy_GO]

What do you reckon about about Isaac Wareham, Mutineer
He only just qualifies for the draft - pretty much a full year younger than Anderson, Green, Stephens and a bunch of the other top prospects. Still made it into the Vic Country side for a couple of matches. Looks pretty athletic and good overhead for a mid from the AFL website footage

 

[Mutineer]

I get the best available argument but at the same time you can never have a classy midfield that is “too deep”
6- midfielder (Stephens, Young, Robertson etc..)
22- key def - De Konig
23 - utility- Gould

Happy days

6 - KPD - McAsey
22 - inside/outside mid -Jay Rantall - inside mid - Cooper Stephens
23 - inside/outside mid/forward - Thomson Dow - outside mid/wing -Jeremy Sharp
37 - Athletic KPF - Mitch Georgiades, Mitch O'Neill - Balanced mid
45 - Athletic Forward/Ruck - Charlie Comben, Big bodied inside mid - Darcy Chirgwin

Rookie - Outside mid/HBF/Wing - Brady Rowles - Ruck KPP - Ben Kelly

Happy Days

 

[TheVelourFog]

Can’t justify pick 6 on a key defender
Can pick them up later on in the draft
Gun midfielder is our need
Key positions covered for now down back

Talia
Hartigan
Kelly can play tall
Sholl
Hamill
Himmelburg
Doedee

If you take out Talia that would be the worst list of key position defenders in the AFL. Especially considering most are third talls or rebounding defenders. We would get massive scores kicked on us.

McAsey fills a need both down back and up forward and looks like a really good player. If comparisons to Naughton are correct then I don't see why anyone wouldn't want to take him with our first pick as Naughton would now likely go top 3 from his draft if it was re-done

 

[FAITH]

Maybe it's the fact he's probably not played 100 minutes in the midfield in his life, and you guys want to take him to play in the guts?

This year was his year to prove himself as a mid, and he got injured after 7 games. He is a question mark. High risk, high return.

trying to find out how many games Joel Selwood played in his draft year 2006, any ideas?

Actually listening to everyone on here about who we need or should get and all the various opinions I am now just so confused. Personally I want a mid who has clean hands, speed and can break away from the pack, who can kick the ball accurately and preferably with either foot. Who that is is just too confusing to pick. Mutineer">#Mutineer is the poster I feel knows more about who we should pick but he actually likes so many players and this confuses the shit out of me.

All I can say is thank god we have Hamish to sort this all out. Come on Wednesday. But will that be the end of all this. Nope. Everyone will be trying to tell everybody else how little they know and how much he/she knows. I can just see #FAITH and #Mutineer telling each other "see I told you so". Then it will be the excuses or reasoning. That should take at least another month.

Come on Wednesday (and Thursday)

if you have time, watch some games and form your own opinion.

 

[Mego Red]

Hot take.

Kosi Pickett will be the Eddie Hocking of the 2020s.

 

[Mutineer]

What do you reckon about about Isaac Wareham, Mutineer
He only just qualifies for the draft - pretty much a full year younger than Anderson, Green, Stephens and a bunch of the other top prospects. Still made it in to the Vic Country side for a couple of matches. Looks pretty athletic and good overhead for a mid from the AFL website footage

Happily rookie him because he has plenty of talent but a bit of a way off the finished product, I suspect he'll get another year at the Rebels as an "over ager" if he goes undrafted similar to Jordy Butts at the Bushrangers. Will be cherry ripe by then but he's also a very talented cricket so I hope that doesn't beckon in the meantime. Sister Georgia is in the Aussie team currently.

 

[FAITH]

Hot take.

Kosi Pickett will be the Eddie Hocking of the 2020s.

would be the funniest thing if Big H trades up to pick 19 and grabs Pickett.

 

[hey shorty]

is it important to have a settled position as an underager given he's proven he can play anywhere on the field at a high level?
personally think youre looking for reasons to not draft him rather than reasons to draft him.
half glass empty sort of thing...

Im not saying don't draft him, I'm saying don't use pick 6 on him. At 6 we should be looking at a "plug and play" type and he isn't that.

You'd want him to be a big mid, but after an ACL he's years away.

 

[FAITH]

Im not saying don't draft him, I'm saying don't use pick 6 on him. At 6 we should be looking at a "plug and play" type and he isn't that.

You'd want him to be a big mid, but after an ACL he's years away.

he'll be back playing in June. And he's more mature ready to play than most of the kids that will get drafted including McAsey

 

[hey shorty]

he'll be back playing in June. And he's more mature ready to play than most of the kids that will get drafted including McAsey

He'll be back in full training in May, wouldn't have thought he will be playing in June.... and that's without an AFL pre season.

 

[lunacy]

Looks like his mail is we’ll take McAsey and port will likely have the choice of Stephens Kemp (my 2 favourite draftees).