Mega Thread 2019 List Management, Free Agency & Trade thread #2

[Taylor]

Anyone know if acres was a docker or an eagles fan growing up?

West Coast

 

[Lach72]

If we could get multiple picks in the 11 - 28 range i'd like to see us do that. potentially even trade pick 10 for 2-3 picks in that range.

10 for 14 and 17?

 

[Van_Dyke]

 

[apuchar]

do we look to have another pick by trading some 2020 picks to try 8 or 9? or even go 23/24 if we are looking at one of Taylor, Sharp, Rivers?

We will probably do something. I think most likely during draft night if not today. Either get in before the Henry bid or after we have matched the bid with our set picks 22 and 58. I think that is the new rule the AFL brought in to stop team trading away their existing picks when a club makes a bid.

 

[beelzebob]

West Coast

yuck

 

[theGav56]

If we could get multiple picks in the 11 - 28 range i'd like to see us do that. potentially even trade pick 10 for 2-3 picks in that range.

How does that benefit us if, for example, Henry is bid on at 11?

 

[freo_leo29]

32 and 51 for Bruce, could have held out for some more there!

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Wonder if that's a future 4th vs 58 this year

 

[Nickos66]

10 for 14 and 17?

I'd bite the hand off that offering - we'd never get it though.

 

[Nickos66]

How does that benefit us if, for example, Henry is bid on at 11?

It'd depend on the points tally but the points value of 2-3 picks in that number range would be more likely to be in our favour than to detriment, also taking into account the academy discount. You'd think we'd maybe lose the 1st pick and push back the next one a couple of spots, or if there's no offer till around 18, it'd be pretty favourable. I think.

 

[Dockernut]

Who is the better player? Menadue or Aish?

 

[freo_leo29]

Who is the better player? Menadue or Aish?

Aish

 

[Taylor]

Who is the better player? Menadue or Aish?

Connor didn't play much and when he did he didn't get involved as much as Aish

 

[freo_leo29]

Trading 10 down would be super silly, it means we get Henry at 14 and then get a talent at 17


keeping 10 means we get a top 10 talent and then henry at 14 if he is bid on.


In all circumstances it is better to keep 10, trading 2 seconds to get back into the 15 range could possibly be worth it though but still a risk in trading picks only to get a pick that we could have matched with lower picks anyway.

 

[fnerd]

See this is what shits me. Gws does a salary dump and hawks go “former no 1 pick who’s previously shown elite football ability before injuries”... I tell ya what ,future 4 ths best we can do and gws -“done”....
Do the pies understand the concept of a salary dump??

You don’t get to push him out and then start getting picky on the demands ffs.

But of course we’re not hawthorn and this is Collingwood we’re dealing with- the team that embodied the term “wins trade week”

 

[Righteo]

Who is the better player? Menadue or Aish?

Aish is no world beater but he's a legit AFL player. Jury is still out on Menadue but he's trending more in the bust direction

 

[apuchar]

32 and 51 for Bruce, could have held out for some more there!

They need that for Jones

 

[Nickos66]

Trading 10 down would be super silly, it means we get Henry at 14 and then get a talent at 17


keeping 10 means we get a top 10 talent and then henry at 14 if he is bid on.


In all circumstances it is better to keep 10, trading 2 seconds to get back into the 15 range could possibly be worth it though but still a risk in trading picks only to get a pick that we could have matched with lower picks anyway.

This draft pool has consistently been talked about as light on for 1st round talent, the 5-30 range sounds like it's pretty even, i'd MUCH rather approach with a pool scoop a bunch of the WA boys in Robertson, Sharpe, Henry, Jackson, Taylor, Rivers etc. than 1 non-wa player at pick 10.

 

[Hogwild]

Oh they overpaid, but we're definitely a worse team with him out

Worse team in the short term. Opportunity to be infinitely better in the medium to long term

 

[freo_leo29]

They need that for Jones

could have snagged 51 over 58 for better academy points tho


58 gets butler done for saints still

 

[purplerunsdeep2]

What do we value our future 2nds at? Knowing they will be affected by the compromised draft?

I haven’t fully crunched the numbers but let’s say 25 (756) and 30 (629) = 1,385

pick 12 this year is 1268

We really want that 11 or 12 right after our 10 to minimise our risk


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[freo_leo29]

This draft pool has consistently been talked about as light on for 1st round talent, the 5-30 range sounds like it's pretty even, i'd MUCH rather approach with a pool scoop a bunch of the WA boys in Robertson, Sharpe, Henry, Jackson, Taylor, Rivers etc. than 1 non-wa player at pick 10.

but it doesn't work like that, our later picks if used on henry will be bundled together to match a points value.

We are much better off taking picks before Henry gets bid on and using the other later picks to match points values


the way we have our picks now means we will end up with two top 10 selections AND Liam Henry which is excellent

 

[FreoRicci]

32 AND 51 for Bruce. That's pathetic. Easy win by Bulldogs there

 

[Alfonz]

This draft pool has consistently been talked about as light on for 1st round talent, the 5-30 range sounds like it's pretty even, i'd MUCH rather approach with a pool scoop a bunch of the WA boys in Robertson, Sharpe, Henry, Jackson, Taylor, Rivers etc. than 1 non-wa player at pick 10.

I agree with your list of players, but I think we need to keep 7 & 10 and get additional picks between 10 and 22. There is conjecture over what we may be allowed to do with future picks, but I'm sure the "make it up as you go" rules of the AFL have allowed exceptions in the past, and I'd like to see if we can use 2020 1st and 2nd to get picks in the teens this year.

 

[apuchar]

could have snagged 51 over 58 for better academy points tho


58 gets butler done for saints still

22 and 58 covers the Henry bid, that's all we needed and some late stuff to protect us if an academy kid we want gets bid on in the main draft.