Mega Thread 2019 List Management, Free Agency & Trade thread

[theGav56]

The club clearly seems to be doing some list juggling to get the number of picks we need. I think they are cautious about keeping a fourth draft pick so that we have a spot available for the Academy boys, but clearly don't rate them in our first 3 picks. Trying to strategise how they want it to play out.

 

[Purpellian Anchor]

The club clearly seems to be doing some list juggling to get the number of picks we need. I think they are cautious about keeping a fourth draft pick so that we have a spot available for the Academy boys, but clearly don't rate them in our first 3 picks. Trying to strategise how they want it to play out.

Yes, wonder if we are in for a surprise...like a Ryan or Barlow from the VFL etc. Seems they know who they are after and at what pick

 

[Purpellian Anchor]

Well, that is an amazing statistic. Thanks.

at 70/3 I'd put 5 bucks on him getting a guernsey somewhere for 10 or more games

 

[Eski3]

Freo has delisted over 70 players without playing a game. Of them 3 have gone on to play more than 10 games for another club. Only one in the last 15 years (Menegola obviously)

De Boer?

 

[freo_leo29]

De Boer?

Deboer played many games for us

 

[Wizard]

De Boer?

Rupert Betheras
Nathan Carroll
Sam Menegola

 

[valkorum]

So as it stands we can go to the draft with 4 picks


Out: 8
D Pearce
M Johnson
L Spurr
L Neale
B Grey
C Sutcliffe
T Sheridan
L Strnadica

In: 4
J Hogan
R Lobb
R Conca
T Colyer


Meaning we prob take picks with 14 & 31 then the 2 NGA boys

 

[Joao]

So as it stands we can go to the draft with 2 picks


Out: 8
D Pearce
M Johnson
L Spurr
L Neale
B Grey
C Sutcliffe
T Sheridan
L Strnadica

In: 4
J Hogan
R Lobb
R Conca
T Colyer
T Duman (upgraded)
B Banfield (upgraded)


Meaning we prob take picks with 14 & 31 then have to delist some contracted players if we want more than 2 ND picks and/or promote Nyhuis

Edited for you.

 

[go_the_dockers]

So as it stands we can go to the draft with 4 picks


Out: 8
D Pearce
M Johnson
L Spurr
L Neale
B Grey
C Sutcliffe
T Sheridan
L Strnadica

In: 4
J Hogan
R Lobb
R Conca
T Colyer


Meaning we prob take picks with 14 & 31 then the 2 NGA boys

I am pretty confident Medhat will make it to the rookie list. Carter is probably 50/50 but we should keep a list spot open for him, even if it means we have 40 on our list. (Currently 39)

 

[Taylor]

We could end up doing what the Eagles did with Waterman, take him with the last pick so there are no surprises later.

 

[apuchar]

“Luke is still in the early stages of his career and will continue to work hard on improving his ruck craft.

 

[go_the_dockers]

We could end up doing what the Eagles did with Waterman, take him with the last pick so there are no surprises later.

Could we draft 4 players, and leave one spot open for Carter? (Assuming we have 5 spots open)

If no one selects him, we get him as a Cat B and only have 39 people on the main list, otherwise we match and have 40 spots on the main list.

 

[Taylor]

“Luke is still in the early stages of his career and will continue to work hard on improving his ruck craft.

He doesn't have the athleticism to be a key forward solely.

 

[Mr Fonebone]

Not happy that Strnadica has been cut. Saw a bit of Peel this year and he was the most impressive of the rucks.

Hope he gets re-rookied or, failing that, gets picked up at another club.

The list management this year has me scratching my head. Re-sign Bennell, Balls and Sandi when all three are not the future.

De-list Sheridan who is miles better than Giro or Crowden and no worse that Colyer. To top it all off we de-list the most promising young ruck we have after Darcy.

 

[apuchar]

He doesn't have the athleticism to be a key forward solely.

Yeah, I never saw him in that light always ruck who can go forward. If no-one else takes him, it sounds like we will continue to monitor him.

 

[Juggs Magnetic]

I guess as Lloyd has been the one making the decisions up till a few months ago, Rosich, Bell and perhaps who ever else is looking after the list disagreed with his long term plan. Perhaps that is why the club allowed him to leave prior to his contract expiring, and are now correcting mistakes they feel he may have made.

 

[apuchar]

Not happy that Strnadica has been cut. Saw a bit of Peel this year and he was the most impressive of the rucks.

Hope he gets re-rookied or, failing that, gets picked up at another club.

The list management this year has me scratching my head. Re-sign Bennell, Balls and Sandi when all three are not the future.

De-list Sheridan who is miles better than Giro or Crowden and no worse that Colyer. To top it all off we de-list the most promising young ruck we have after Darcy.

Giro has the potential to be better than Sheridan. The trouble with Sheridan is he never was able to push his way consistently into the best 22. If he can't do it by now, he most likely never will. Giro at least has a question mark over his chances of achieving that. Strnadica was uncontracted and probably not appreciably better than a contracted Meek. Jones is ready to go back up. Having said that, I'm not happy about Nads either. But getting Meek and Jones on the main list last year left him vulnerable.
I guess the rest is the dual narrative thing.

 

[valkorum]

Not happy that Strnadica has been cut. Saw a bit of Peel this year and he was the most impressive of the rucks.

Hope he gets re-rookied or, failing that, gets picked up at another club.

The list management this year has me scratching my head. Re-sign Bennell, Balls and Sandi when all three are not the future.

De-list Sheridan who is miles better than Giro or Crowden and no worse that Colyer. To top it all off we de-list the most promising young ruck we have after Darcy.

Ballas and Sandi have been re-signed as list management decisions. You need players to de-list next year (due to AFL min requirements of 3 list changes per year)

So re-sign them with the foresight that they get de-listed (retirement) next season. Meaning we only have to find 1 more player to de-list to fulfil the requirements. This means that youngsters get every opportunity to prove themselves because we don't have to delist them as we have that covered.

Lets be honest, Sheridan & Sutcliffe are not the future. So de-listing them isnt an issue. Grey hurts IMO because he is a super competitive tackling machine.... but that being said - I can't see him in the team moving forward. Strnadica was just starting to show something last season for Peel but he was out of contract and we needed another player to go so we can draft with our first 2 picks and the 2 NGA recruits.

 

[eastfreo75]

I guess as Lloyd has been the one making the decisions up till a few months ago, Rosich, Bell and perhaps who ever else is looking after the list disagreed with his long term plan. Perhaps that is why the club allowed him to leave prior to his contract expiring, and are now correcting mistakes they feel he may have made.

Lloyd couldn't foresee or bank on getting Hogan and Lobb.

The list need to get as many ruck/key forward as possible and maybe, one or two come through.

Next year delistings will sort that out, then we go midfielders.

 

[apuchar]

Lloyd couldn't foresee or bank on getting Hogan and Lobb.

The list need to get as many ruck/key forward as possible and maybe, one or two come through.

Next year delistings will sort that out, then we go midfielders.

That's fine unless we were forced to delist the better one because of the imbalance.

 

[eastfreo75]

That's fine unless we were forced to delist the better one because of the imbalance.

For me, it's not clear cut who to keep as depth.

 

[Taylor]

Fine line balancing exposed AFL form against that players potential, then against another player without any AFL exposed form on their potential.

Perceived potential is undoubtedly higher for the player who hasn't played yet, actual potential is a function of their AFL form.

Tom North, for example, is a gun inside/outisde mid right up until he played like Luke Davies-Uniake at AFL level. Both develop a bit physically and their perceived potential will rise.. until they expose that potential at AFL level.

Luke Strnadica is a young marking tall (instant potential), not physically built (potential improvement), not very athletic (can he handle getting heavier/slower?)

My advice for all 200cm players who aren't fast and can't jump is to work on your marking and running, then run some more. If you can run with the mids for distance you can find a place at AFL level but if you're not fast enough then your key back (who will be quick) can shut you down no matter how well you make position. You need to be marking the high ball all over the ground.

 

[apuchar]

For me, it's not clear cut who to keep as depth.

Yes Meek and Nads were similar in quality although Nads was probably a better weapon forward. One was a WA guy and avid Freo supporter though. Should that have swayed things?

 

[eastfreo75]

Fine line balancing exposed AFL form against that players potential, then against another player without any AFL exposed form on their potential.

Perceived potential is undoubtedly higher for the player who hasn't played yet, actual potential is a function of their AFL form.

Tom North, for example, is a gun inside/outisde mid right up until he played like Luke Davies-Uniake at AFL level. Both develop a bit physically and their perceived potential will rise.. until they expose that potential at AFL level.

Luke Strnadica is a young marking tall (instant potential), not physically built (potential improvement), not very athletic (can he handle getting heavier/slower?)

My advice for all 200cm players who aren't fast and can't jump is to work on your marking and running, then run some more. If you can run with the mids for distance you can find a place at AFL level but if you're not fast enough then your key back (who will be quick) can shut you down no matter how well you make position. You need to be marking the high ball all over the ground.

On "open mike" Justin Madden knew he wasn't athletic but had the same idea you had.

 

[Unique Name]

People talking like Strnadica was a jet. Yes he was steadily improving but he was hardly ripping apart the WAFL like Tabs was last year. With the selection of Lobb he became surplus to needs.