2019 Non-Crows AFL Chat #3 - the off-season

[FR0GGY]

I think the real meaning might be that we're looking to draft someone who isnt a clear number three. I.e. we'll get our guy anyway.

I actually think that's why we won't get practical value from the pick trade though. There's a real likelihood that we'll end up taking someone that would have been available later anyway. And in which case...

A tasmanian basketball special.

 

[GreyCrow]

A tasmanian basketball special.

What does Shifter say

 

[hey shorty]

A tasmanian basketball special.

Think we will draft a South Aussie lad personally.

 

[GrommoT]

Ablett and Taylor sign on for one more year at Geelong

And I thought our list decisions were weird

Their age profile must be out of sight

This is from one of their current threads - don't think they expected Ablett to re-sign

ed. and Taylor.

 

[FR0GGY]

Think we will draft a South Aussie lad personally.

At 4?

 

[hey shorty]

At 4?

Possibly, but definetly at our 2nd pick. Whenever that is with all our outgoings.

 

[GROTTO]

Ablett and Taylor sign on for one more year at Geelong

And I thought our list decisions were weird

Their age profile must be out of sight

Ablett is cooked. He is staying on in the hope of another title shot and the Tim Kelly decision.

Geelong imo will be like the Crows 2018. They wont know what hit them but its coming.

 

[GreyCrow]

This is from one of their current threads - don't think they expected Ablett to re-sign

ed. and Taylor.

Told you it was out of sight

 

[footy4ever]

Ablett and Taylor sign on for one more year at Geelong

And I thought our list decisions were weird

Their age profile must be out of sight

Taylor actually wound the clock back in his finals, but next year I expect to see the both of these Weekend-at-Bernie’s style.

 

[Geoffa32]

This is from one of their current threads - don't think they expected Ablett to re-sign

ed. and Taylor.

Love to see this graph for us

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[GROTTO]

Love to see this graph for us

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good call.

Would like to see one at the end of R23 and one after the draft has ended. Would be fascinating.

 

[chazwazza]

Did I hear correctly that Richmond will get an end of round 1 compensation pick for Ellis?
F*** me.

 

[radiojake]

wowee the Tim Kelly thread on the draft & trade board is one of the most vitriolic bigfooty threads I've come across

 

[GROTTO]

Did I hear correctly that Richmond will get an end of round 1 compensation pick for Ellis?
F*** me.

When the AFL applies the special "VFL formula -Victorian Fairytale" to determine compensation, Tigers arguably will get close to getting an end of R1 pick.

 

[GROTTO]

wowee the Tim Kelly thread on the draft & trade board is one of the most vitriolic bigfooty threads I've come across

Its ugly. Geelong is an awful Club with the way they have held onto Kelly and treated him.

Kelly's character speaks volumes where for the majority of the year he was in Brownlow contention with his performance on field.

 

[Dudersaurus]

Did I hear correctly that Richmond will get an end of round 1 compensation pick for Ellis?
F*** me.

It's horse crap, but based on contractual size ($ and length) and age, I can see it being any lower.

Another example of blatant inequality in free agency. GCS have to pay way over to get anyone there, ensuring OTT compensation for Vic clubs.

Vic clubs can be essentially take GCS players for very little as they are desperate to leave (if they stay until FA) and the relative compensation would be less.

Richmond get Lynch and 19 for Ellis and 3. Probably a fair trade, but based on luck and ladder position more than anything.

 

[GreyCrow]

Taylor actually wound the clock back in his finals, but next year I expect to see the both of these Weekend-at-Bernie’s style.

I'm not sure Harry averaged 14 disposals per game for most of the year.

I agree next year could be worse

 

[GrommoT]

Love to see this graph for us

Ok, here is our list side by side to Cats with our current reported outs and assuming we draft 9 18yo's ...

 

[radiojake]

It's horse crap, but based on contractual size ($ and length) and age, I can see it being any lower.

Another example of blatant inequality in free agency. GCS have to pay way over to get anyone there, ensuring OTT compensation for Vic clubs.

Vic clubs can be essentially take GCS players for very little as they are desperate to leave (if they stay until FA) and the relative compensation would be less.

Richmond get Lynch and 19 for Ellis and 3. Probably a fair trade, but based on luck and ladder position more than anything.

The problem with your equation is that it implies Richmond paid #3 for Lynch, which ofcourse, they didn't -

in a way, FA compo means every other teams pays for a FA move in the draft, except the buying club

 

[FR0GGY]

Jack Trengrove on trade radio.
Not sure I’ve heard a football player speak better than he did.

 

[Vader]

Ok, here is our list side by side to Cats with our current reported outs and assuming we draft 9 18yo's ...

Is that senior & rookie lists, or just senior?

At present it appears likely that we'll have 8x senior list players departing (Douglas, Otten, Jacobs, Betts, JJ, Keath, Greenwood, Knight), with Frampton coming in and Murphy likely to be upgraded. CEY & Hunter are on the rookie list, as will be their replacements.

By my maths we're looking at 6x 18yo draftees, assuming we retain the 38/6 playing list, pending the outcome of trade week.

 

[GrommoT]

Is that senior & rookie lists, or just senior?
...

I listed player ages from both our senior & rookie lists. Come to think of it, I don't know if that is so with the Cats list - I just copied it from the Cats BFer.

Actually, the number of players suggest the Cats list must cover senior & rookie.

 

[FR0GGY]

So will Harley/Sydney get a sanction for meeting with a contracted player?

 

[Dudersaurus]

So will Harley/Sydney get a sanction for meeting with a contracted player?

Yep, they'll lose 2 first round picks and a big slice of salary cap space and get a talented but massively injury-prone player who can't kick straight to save himself.

 

[subaru]

So


Will Heppell cop what Tex and the AFC did over Lever ?