Resource 2020 Draft Watch (picks 1, 9, 20, 30, 45, 50, 60, 74) - updated R17 15/9/20

[Deaneus!]

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[Sunny_]

Wouldn’t have happened though as Saints would have taken Ben.

Either way I think it worked out a better balance for them

Be interested to know how the GCS watchers see it, if there’s any reading this

GC were never taking both King boys because Max had/has serious problems moving away from home. Ben on the other hand has the personality to deal with it better. If the Suns picked up both, hoping that Max would adjust because of his brother Ben being with him, it's entirely likely that Max would have left anyway and then Ben would have probably gone not long after with him. The approach GC took has essentially forced Ben to grow up immediately, which seems to have worked so far.

In a perfect world you probably take Ben and Max, I would agree with that. But the reality is if we took both then both probably leave in about 4 years. By taking the one and forcing him to mingle with others and settle on the GC, broaden his horizons, we get him for the long term ideally. So you take the one and 'settle' on Luko being the other option.

GC drafted Luko to be a forward, but our game style doesn't suit lead up forwards at all, hence why he was shifted back. Him being back has led to many scoring chains. He's a very different play to last year.

Rankine is just Rankine, not a lot needs to be said there. You make that pick every day.

 

[1990crow]

Hollands and McDonald. Two elite prospects. Would make our list look infinitely better in 2021.
Add in 2021 first rounder, GWS 2020 first, Dudley, O'Loughlin, Newchurch, Borlase and Edwards and all of a sudden list looks much better.

 

[mattymac]

So Hamish will pick MacRae no 1.

Apparently from a good home...

 

[Crow_68]

Badly want 1 and 2 for Hollands and McDonald


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[Mutineer]

Pick 14 for Adelaide??? And Braeden Campbell not getting bid on???

I reckon given Campbell's elite skill set I can see the Hawks putting in a bid on him?
He's a pretty similar player to Sam Mitchell but with serious wheels and a more penetrating kick?

 

[Shaz2012]

Hollands and McDonald. Two elite prospects. Would make our list look infinitely better in 2021.
Add in 2021 first rounder, GWS 2020 first, Dudley, O'Loughlin, Newchurch, Borlase and Edwards and all of a sudden list looks much better.

List will look much better. But they are only as good as our footy department. Need a really smart forwards coach to make a young forward line of McDonald, Fogarty, McAdam work.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

List will look much better. But they are only as good as our footy department. Need a really smart forwards coach to make a young forward line of McDonald, Fogarty, McAdam work.

I'm not as convinced on McDonald as a couple .....not in the top 20 Draft Pick Contention at years start, but that's not the reason

McDonald is a body player similar to Fog .....to me we need a leaping contested forward, and I'll be surprised if we consider him .....also his hands are not as clean as I would expect of a #1 pick

I do like Grainger-Barras very much as a GWS pick

 

[1990crow]

List will look much better. But they are only as good as our footy department. Need a really smart forwards coach to make a young forward line of McDonald, Fogarty, McAdam work.

McAdam will be 26 next year. Not sure he is the long term solution to be honest.

Fogarty, McDonald, Stengle, Newchurch, Himmelburg, McHenry is a good starting group.

 

[1990crow]

I'm not as convinced on McDonald as a couple .....not in the top 20 Draft Pick Contention at years start, but that's not the reason

McDonald is a body player similar to Fog .....to me we need a leaping contested forward, and I'll be surprised if we consider him .....also his hands are not as clean as I would expect of a #1 pick

I do like Grainger-Barras very much as a GWS pick

His marking appears to be his strong point from what I've seen.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

His marking appears to be his strong point from what I've seen.

It is ....not great at ground level, a bit uncordinated, which you expect of a 18 YO tall ......but he prefers to body players for a mark, ala Tom Hawkins ...except he's not as big framed

But that's also Fogs marking style .....our issue since Gov left is not having a leaping contested marking player .....that's not McDonald

 

[Mego Red]

Massive difference, simply because JUH is clearly the best talent and we have pick one. By the very nature of the draft, it would be at a minimum negligent not to bid on him — and not a good look if we happen to do a pick swap with the bullies if we don’t.

None of this matters.

I mean - not a good look to who? The AFL? They don't have an opinion on who clubs draft. We absolutely could decide that we don't want to bid on a player we haven't seen all year.

 

[eDPS]

It is ....not great at ground level, a bit uncordinated, which you expect of a 18 YO tall ......but he prefers to body players for a mark, ala Tom Hawkins ...except he's not as big framed

But that's also Fogs marking style .....our issue since Gov left is not having a leaping contested marking player .....that's not McDonald

Gee think you have a fair bit wrong here, from what I’ve seen of McDonald his hands at ground level are fantastic for his size and his leap is actually pretty good and his testing at the start of the year would have put him in the top 10 for running vertical leap at the combine.

 

[Mego Red]

Pick 14 for Adelaide??? And Braeden Campbell not getting bid on???

Pick 14 is GWS, after other clubs move up to get players from their NGA that have been bid on.

He accounts for picks moving around due to bids. In this mock, Carlton bid on Campbell.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Apparently from a good home...

and a lovely lad.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Hollands and McDonald. Two elite prospects. Would make our list look infinitely better in 2021.
Add in 2021 first rounder, GWS 2020 first, Dudley, O'Loughlin, Newchurch, Borlase and Edwards and all of a sudden list looks much better.

I want Lauchy Jones in GWS pick. He will play round 1 2021 if selected

 

[Bearded Clam]

So Hamish will pick MacRae no 1.

Is he a good kid from a good family?..

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Is he a good kid from a good family?..

and a midfielder although a little tall.

 

[Bearded Clam]

I'm not as convinced on McDonald as a couple .....not in the top 20 Draft Pick Contention at years start, but that's not the reason

McDonald is a body player similar to Fog .....to me we need a leaping contested forward, and I'll be surprised if we consider him .....also his hands are not as clean as I would expect of a #1 pick

I do like Grainger-Barras very much as a GWS pick

From all the footage I’ve seen of both Mcdonald and Thilthorpe the only difference I see is one is from perth and one is from Adelaide.

they both seem pretty much of a muchness for me.. IMO of course.

 

[hey shorty]

McAdam will be 26 next year. Not sure he is the long term solution to be honest.

Fogarty, McDonald, Stengle, Newchurch, Himmelburg, McHenry is a good starting group.

Ideally Shane gets to 30-31 and weve got a Newchurch or the like coming through with him

 

[Brett Cummings]

McAdam will be 26 next year. Not sure he is the long term solution to be honest.

Fogarty, McDonald, Stengle, Newchurch, Himmelburg, McHenry is a good starting group.

having fog, mcdonald and himmelberg is too tall. only need the first two.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Gee think you have a fair bit wrong here, from what I’ve seen of McDonald his hands at ground level are fantastic for his size and his leap is actually pretty good and his testing at the start of the year would have put him in the top 10 for running vertical leap at the combine.

Like everyone, it's an opinion from what I've seen ......there's a lot of good testing players that fail

We've seen speedsters from testing on wooden floorboards, look slow players on field

I'm happy to stick with this ....where was McDonald in your ratings 8 weeks ago ?????

You had some ???? on McDonalds marking, correct ?

The question posed to you in April, was who do you prefer Baldwin or McDonald ?? ......I'm not trying to be antagonistic, but I find it interesting how opinions change on players from a few games played

Your answer was

Baldwin I feel has more impact about his game and is the stronger contested mark at this stage

Macrae is a hard one, I had him in the early teens but he really didn’t impress me much in the practise match I saw early on, you can’t hold too much weight on them but more often than not the guns still stand out in them from my previous few years watching practise matches. Needs to show more on the inside for me to have him top 10 calib

Bruhn wasn’t tested for height at the pre-season combine so him along with a few others like Hollands don’t have updated measurements.

Im holding back on changing my rankings until after I’ve gone through some past replays and that will take some time.

Question was re McDonald going higher in the Draft
Your answer

Durdins size and lack of athleticism hurt his chances in going high for me, usually you see players at his height have a point of difference at the next level. He has great tackling pressure and knows where to run though so if he can develop a bit more athleticism I could see him making it as an AFL small forward.

I’m with you on McDonald, certainly deserves to be in the conversation. Really hope to see how he goes with contested marks this year, if he starts to really clunk then he will be hard to ignore.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

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rom all the footage I’ve seen of both Mcdonald and Thilthorpe the onluly difference I see is one is from perth and one is from Adelaide.

they both seem pretty much of a muchness for me.. IMO of course.

I agree .....Thilthorpe reminds me of Kruezer with his gait .....but neither are leapers, preferring to body

I disliked the reintroduction of the current push in the back rule .....when there was no hands, elbows in the back allowed, all of a sudden players started jumping for their marks again .....IMO an opportunity to reintroduce the marking aspect of the game was lost .....all players are back to bodying opposition - BORING !!

 

[FAITH]

I'm not as convinced on McDonald as a couple .....not in the top 20 Draft Pick Contention at years start, but that's not the reason

McDonald is a body player similar to Fog .....to me we need a leaping contested forward, and I'll be surprised if we consider him .....also his hands are not as clean as I would expect of a #1 pick

I do like Grainger-Barras very much as a GWS pick

He's nothing like Fog. He is like Lynch from Richmond. Potentially fyfe if things go perfectly.
Watch full games not highlights of him.

 

[eDPS]

Like everyone, it's an opinion from what I've seen ......there's a lot of good testing players that fail

We've seen speedsters from testing on wooden floorboards, look slow players on field

I'm happy to stick with this ....where was McDonald in your ratings 8 weeks ago ?????

You had some ???? on McDonalds marking, correct ?

The question posed to you in April, was who do you prefer Baldwin or McDonald ?? ......I'm not trying to be antagonistic, but I find it interesting how opinions change on players from a few games played

Your answer was


Question was re McDonald going higher in the Draft
Your answer

That’s fair enough mate also giving my two cents on mostly on his testing which most people don’t have access too and his ground level work which did look good especially in his game against East Perth this year.

I had him at 16 and it was the contested marking that I hadn’t seen him showcase in his bottom year, always thought he lead and jumped at the ball well but didn’t get to see him really excel at the contested side. His games this year have all but squashed all my main queries on him which sees him as a certain top 10 pick for me now.

Baldwin very unlucky with injury, still feel he is a top 10 level talent but will be hard to take early because of another knee injury, he was a better contested marker than McDonald before this year.

 

[FAITH]

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rom all the footage I’ve seen of both Mcdonald and Thilthorpe the onluly difference I see is one is from perth and one is from Adelaide.

they both seem pretty much of a muchness for me.. IMO of course.

They couldn't be anymore different