Resource 2020 Draft Watch (picks 1, 9, 20, 30, 45, 50, 60, 74) - updated R17 15/9/20

[Deaneus!]

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[Bearded Clam]

Correct. Can some of those posters who think we'll get great compo suggest which club/s are in the market for a high priced Brad?

Gold Coast certainly aren't and they don't have cap room after their off season recruiting and burgeoning list of guns that need re-signing.

Depends what you mean by “high priced”... using the current formula, brad going to another club on $700k Or more per year would net us a pick directly after our 1st.. if our first pick is pick 1 then it will be pick 2

The following Age article explains it quite well and it even Talks about Rockcliff and why the lions didnt get pick 2 for him, mainly his age was a factor;

The AFL's secret formula for free agency compensation

Length of contract is largely irrelevant, but a one-year age gap can make a big difference.

www.google.com.au

Age wont be a factor in brads case because he will fall into the youngest age bracket.. Rockliff was older when he took up the free agency.

Now if the salary cap reduces then this will only mean that the salary thresholds that go into determining the compo band will also reduce... so it wont matter.

And if the amount any other club offers for brad is lower than the threshold to get the crows a band 1 compo.. then the crows simply match it and, if it goes further, then forces a trade to get a better deal..

All speculation at this point though.. does he even really want to leave?.. do the crows want to let him go?.. we’ll find out at the end of the season.

Potential clubs that could want brad?..
There‘s apparently about 6..

 

[Mutineer]

 

[briztoon]

So where we stand atm, if one of the 2 of O'Driscoll or Trew were available at say the GWS pick we have and we were to get Thilthorpe with our first selection, then we end up with a great key position talent and 2 strong mids in Edwards and one of the two mentioned - and that is not to say we may not be able to further increase our draft haul with trading / bundling up picks to maybe grab another strong mid..It could set us up going forward

GWS missing finals are they.

I reckon both go top 10.

One is big, athletic and fast, attacks the contest, but also knows how to play outside and behind the ball.

The other is big and strong, is an elite extractor and a tackling machine, with elite hands and feet.

 

[Mutineer]

 

[ams4crows]

Draft haul incoming. Hilarious re Atkins.

Start the car.

Early verdict: The 16 hottest trade targets and what they should do

Early verdict: The 16 hottest trade targets and what they should do

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Is this like that time Melbourne were sniffing around Mackay and we all got excited only for us to re-sign him hence 400kay was born

 

[Mutineer]

 

[Mutineer]

 

[Mutineer]

I'm liking from what I'm hearing from the SA boys in these interviews with LJ re Riley Thilthorpe's work ethic

 

[Bearded Clam]

You can bet your ass we will match anything up to the point required to ensure first-round compo.

The major problem right now is Brad isn't playing up to the standard required to get paid that much...

Not really.. I dont think the clubs think like us supporters.

The form brad shows this year wouldn’t be a massive deciding factor for them..

They know his talent.. they’ve all seen him playing his best footy.. they would understand the fact he’s playing for the bottom side..

 

[Golumless]

Probably enough there to say we have him as an F/S if we want to go down that route.

 

[Crow till I die]

GWS missing finals are they.

I reckon both go top 10.

One is big, athletic and fast, attacks the contest, but also knows how to play outside and behind the ball.

The other is big and strong, is an elite extractor and a tackling machine, with elite hands and feet.

GWS are in an interesting spot - having lost a couple in a shortened season it makes losses from here very important. Not saying they will and i was expecting them to be right up there but the way they have looked who knows?

Then like Mutineer has said, who knows what our recruiters are thinking but the 2 kids mentioned seem like they would be great for us if we could land them

 

[Mego Red]

You can bet your ass we will match anything up to the point required to ensure first-round compo.

The major problem right now is Brad isn't playing up to the standard required to get paid that much...

No one in Victoria thinks that is because Brad has lost his talent. They just think we're a shitshow. If they can get someone with his ability without needing to spend any trade capital, they'll do it.

 

[Mego Red]

Fair enough. I get to your point, but mine was that there is definitely some arbitrary fudge in the calculation and an ability of the powers that be to ignore the math if they deem it appropriate.

If the mathematics came out as pick 9 on a borderline contract, I think that wouldn't raise too many hackles and would be waved through.

IMO (unscientifically, and maybe paranoidly) the prospect of getting picks 1 and 2 are more likely to trigger an over-ride and have the band changed.

Seeing the year we're having, no one is going to begrudge us getting a good pick when our best player leaves us as well.

 

[skittlebrew]

No one in Victoria thinks that is because Brad has lost his talent. They just think we're a shitshow. If they can get someone with his ability without needing to spend any trade capital, they'll do it.

Let's hope so, we fell for the same trick for Gibblets.

'He's a great player just in a bad team'

 

[Thetrader15]

I do like the updated title thread.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Let's hope so, we fell for the same trick for Gibblets.

'He's a great player just in a bad team'

Gibbs was a lot older than brad.. brad is 26... gibbs was 4 years older when he came to us..

And brad shows a hell of a lot more than what gibbs ever did..

We completely ****ed that whole trade up. What a sliding doors moment..

 

[Mego Red]

What steaming crock of poo from Tom Morris, Atkins rated by other clubs? idiots, Hawkins a juicy two year deal elsewhere, he's nearly cooked. These guys have to write something and expose themselves as really knowing bugger all.

Wonder if we could get more than a future 4th for Atkins?

I think clubs will look at someone like Atkins and offer him a reasonable salary and contract, because outside mids who can accumulate are reasonably rare and he has a good showreel of when he's played well (and his shit games will be because of the club, not him).

He's a free agent - could we hope for band 3 compo? Someone might mildly overpay.

 

[Crow till I die]

I think clubs will look at someone like Atkins and offer him a reasonable salary and contract, because outside mids who can accumulate are reasonably rare and he has a good showreel of when he's played well (and his sh*t games will be because of the club, not him).

He's a free agent - could we hope for band 3 compo? Someone might mildly overpay.

He has hawthorn type player written all over him. Clarkson would get him playing proper footy again just like hendo

 

[Thetrader15]

Gibbs was a lot older than brad.. brad is 26... gibbs was 4 years older when he came to us..

And brad shows a hell of a lot more than what gibbs ever did..

We completely f’ed that whole trade up. What a sliding doors moment..

Umm, Gibbs was 28 when he came here, so unless my maths is as bad as yours, that would make it 2 years difference, not 4.

BTW, Gibbs was really good in 2018, but since then, well we all know

 

[Bearded Clam]

He has hawthorn type player written all over him. Clarkson would get him playing proper footy again just like hendo

There’s no doubt the bloke has talent in spades.. when he uses it and doesn’t try and do to much (like when he gets caught with the ball trying to evade 1 too many tacklers)

his main problem is that he is just bloody lazy.. and you’re right.. that’s something Clarkson would find a way to drum out of him..

doubt they would throw anymore than $400k a year at him though.. what‘s he really worth?

 

[Mego Red]

He has hawthorn type player written all over him. Clarkson would get him playing proper footy again just like hendo

Yep, true that. They'll offer him $350k a year for four years, and seem like geniuses.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Umm, Gibbs was 28 when he came here, so unless my maths is as bad as yours, that would make it 2 years difference, not 4.

BTW, Gibbs was really good in 2018, but since then, well we all know

My bad.. I thought he was 29 and turning 30 in his first year.. still, given they say 27 is peak year for Midfielders, Gibbs was past that and as we’ve all witnessed, has fallen away badly since!..

 

[Thetrader15]

Draft haul incoming. Hilarious re Atkins.

Start the car.

Early verdict: The 16 hottest trade targets and what they should do

Early verdict: The 16 hottest trade targets and what they should do

www.foxsports.com.au

Umm...is it just ne or does this sound like what was called draft tamering a few years ago

ANDREW GAFF

Status: Unrestricted free agent

As reported by Jay Clark in the Herald Sun last year, a clause in Gaff’s long-term deal allows him to exercise his rights at the end of 2020 and walk to a club of his choice.

 

[Thetrader15]

Suggesting Gibbs has trade value was funnier.

Start the car!

 

[Dudersaurus]

Umm...is it just ne or does this sound like what was called draft tamering a few years ago

ANDREW GAFF

Status: Unrestricted free agent

As reported by Jay Clark in the Herald Sun last year, a clause in Gaff’s long-term deal allows him to exercise his rights at the end of 2020 and walk to a club of his choice.

Or is that called being an unrestricted free agent?