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I Personally reckon the First Round of the 2016 draft is where we got it all wrong. I remembered screaming out for Jarrod Berry and we got Gallucci and thought hmmmm ok.







But Here are all the picks straight after our pick.





16 – Todd Marshall

17 – Jarrod Berry

18 – Sam Powell- Pepper

19 – Tim English

20 – Isaac Cumming (GWS academy player)

21 – Will Hayward

22 – Jordan Ridley

23 – Alex Witherden

24 – Cedric Cox

25 – Ben Long

26 – Brendan Parfitt

27 – Zac Fisher

28 – Patrick Lipinski

29 – Shai Bolton



I am a big fan of Hamish I always have been but think sometimes he tries to get too clever and smart with his picks. Sometimes they pay off and sometimes they don’t but I am worried if we get some low draft picks that they could be wasted.
That one was on Pyke. Apparently Hamish wanted English (Given how he’s Developing, will surpass ROB very soon, if not already). However Pyke wanted speed (ie Gooch).

Guess who won?
 
That one was on Pyke. Apparently Hamish wanted English (Given how he’s Developing, will surpass ROB very soon, if not already). However Pyke wanted speed (ie Gooch).

Guess who won?
Gooch wasn't a horrible selection, he would have to be one of the worst handled players at our club in recent times.

He's got all the talent to be a very good AFL player, and if we let him go I'm confident he will be.
 
I Personally reckon the First Round of the 2016 draft is where we got it all wrong. I remembered screaming out for Jarrod Berry and we got Gallucci and thought hmmmm ok.







But Here are all the picks straight after our pick.





16 – Todd Marshall

17 – Jarrod Berry

18 – Sam Powell- Pepper

19 – Tim English

20 – Isaac Cumming (GWS academy player)

21 – Will Hayward

22 – Jordan Ridley

23 – Alex Witherden

24 – Cedric Cox

25 – Ben Long

26 – Brendan Parfitt

27 – Zac Fisher

28 – Patrick Lipinski

29 – Shai Bolton



I am a big fan of Hamish I always have been but think sometimes he tries to get too clever and smart with his picks. Sometimes they pay off and sometimes they don’t but I am worried if we get some low draft picks that they could be wasted.


Gallucci was fantastic on paper - Vic Metro captain, athleticism off the charts. Sometimes you miss with someone.

But year - that's a pretty good lineup of players following him.
 

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That one was on Pyke. Apparently Hamish wanted English (Given how he’s Developing, will surpass ROB very soon, if not already). However Pyke wanted speed (ie Gooch).

Guess who won?


Well, Pyke was right about our luist. We desperately needed speed, which is why they made that pick.

It was wrong. AND right. But still eventually wrong. What a mug's game recruiting is ...
 
Gooch wasn't a horrible selection, he would have to be one of the worst handled players at our club in recent times.

He's got all the talent to be a very good AFL player, and if we let him go I'm confident he will be.
He might not have been a horrible selection but I don't think he's been hampered by our handling to any great degree. He's merely failed to fully grasp the opportunities he's been given at AFL level. When relegated to the SANFL it's generally been on not delivering enough at AFL level and he's never really dominated SANFL games to the level that screamed pick me. I know it's popular on this board but I disagee, I will agree he has the tools in his kit to be a decent AFL player but they have very rarely been on display consistently across full games....sure he'd no doubt have a decent highlight reel if you pieced his best efforts together in one highlight reel but that don't cut it.
 
Gooch wasn't a horrible selection, he would have to be one of the worst handled players at our club in recent times.

He's got all the talent to be a very good AFL player, and if we let him go I'm confident he will be.
Was discussing a point against Hamish and not Gooch. Like you said he looked great on paper, it was just AFC that screwed him over (not giving him the right opportunities).
 
He might not have been a horrible selection but I don't think he's been hampered by our handling to any great degree. He's merely failed to fully grasp the opportunities he's been given at AFL level. When relegated to the SANFL it's generally been on not delivering enough at AFL level and he's never really dominated SANFL games to the level that screamed pick me. I know it's popular on this board but I disagee, I will agree he has the tools in his kit to be a decent AFL player but they have very rarely been on display consistently across full games....sure he'd no doubt have a decent highlight reel if you pieced his best efforts together in one highlight reel but that don't cut it.
Where did he play the majority of his games at SANFL? Did he get real opportunities to play as a genuine midfielder or did he mirror his AFL role as the HF graveyard position?
 
Where did he play the majority of his games at SANFL? Did he get real opportunities to play as a genuine midfielder or did he mirror his AFL role as the HF graveyard position?
Some midfield but that was rightly taken by Wilson and Poholke.
 
Was discussing a point against Hamish and not Gooch. Like you said he looked great on paper, it was just AFC that screwed him over (not giving him the right opportunities).


This Means our developing of players is terrible. So really doesnt matter who we pick if we can't play them in the right positions and give them the right opportunities.

Think time to release the shackles on a few such as Jones and give them 5 weeks of time in the right position even if we have to play a Crouch at half forward.
 
Where did he play the majority of his games at SANFL? Did he get real opportunities to play as a genuine midfielder or did he mirror his AFL role as the HF graveyard position?
He's had plenty of opportunities at SANFL level in the midfield/wing/half forward, the reality is he's never dominated at any level since he was drafted, certainly not befitting of a 1st round draft pick. I'd argue his best form in the SANFL was in his 1st year.
Going on what Godden said a while back it seems his application was in question?
 
He's had plenty of opportunities at SANFL level in the midfield/wing/half forward, the reality is he's never dominated at any level since he was drafted, certainly not befitting of a 1st round draft pick. I'd argue his best form in the SANFL was in his 1st year.
Going on what Godden said a while back it seems his application was in question?
From the interviews he's given he doesn't seem particularly switched on or motivated. Has all the physical attributes for sure.
 
That one was on Pyke. Apparently Hamish wanted English (Given how he’s Developing, will surpass ROB very soon, if not already). However Pyke wanted speed (ie Gooch).

Guess who won?
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Horrible decision now in hindsight.
Maybe.

The player would've been different but would the result ?? Who's to say we wouldn't have just left English in the 2s
 
What a silly post.

You agree with him?
Walsh is a young star, but plays for a sh*te club.
I agree that Smith>>>>>>Walsh a view I've held right from seeing them both play on the basis Smith is far more damaging and penetrating with his ball use
 
I Personally reckon the First Round of the 2016 draft is where we got it all wrong. I remembered screaming out for Jarrod Berry and we got Gallucci and thought hmmmm ok.







But Here are all the picks straight after our pick.





16 – Todd Marshall

17 – Jarrod Berry

18 – Sam Powell- Pepper

19 – Tim English

20 – Isaac Cumming (GWS academy player)

21 – Will Hayward

22 – Jordan Ridley

23 – Alex Witherden

24 – Cedric Cox

25 – Ben Long

26 – Brendan Parfitt

27 – Zac Fisher

28 – Patrick Lipinski

29 – Shai Bolton



I am a big fan of Hamish I always have been but think sometimes he tries to get too clever and smart with his picks. Sometimes they pay off and sometimes they don’t but I am worried if we get some low draft picks that they could be wasted.

An ironic conclusion seeing Hamish followed what was expected in that draft (I.e. Gallucci was a back of 1st round prospect and was picked in the back end of the 1st round).

Still, there was easily enough to Goochs game to be a long term player. Just got damn unlucky to exist on an Adelaide lineup when we were refusing to play youth (there is no good reason for that, and if anyone says anything like "Oh he wasn't good enough", they're lying to themselves as much as you. We opted to try to save Pykes/Burton/Campos job with a cooked Douglas and a Mackay who hasn't been AFL standard for nearly a decade at this point) and then, well, the Achillies pretty ruins any further chances.
 
I agree that Smith>>>>>>Walsh a view I've held right from seeing them both play on the basis Smith is far more damaging and penetrating with his ball use
Swap clubs and Walsh is miles ahead of Smith.
Don't underestimate how much damage shite clubs can do to a kid.
All things being equal Walsh > Smith.
 
Swap clubs and Walsh is miles ahead of Smith.
Don't underestimate how much damage sh*te clubs can do to a kid.
All things being equal Walsh > Smith.
You keep believing that, I'm confident time will prove my original assessments of Smith vs Walsh correct. Being at Carlton doesn't seem to have impinged on Patrick Cripps's development too much or if it has how bloody good would he be playing for a half "decent" club?
Walsh has been given every opportunity to develop his game at Carlton end of story for mine.
 
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