List Mgmt. 2020 List Management II

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Thanks for sharing guy's and well done.

If we were to bring in all your discussed players 5x traded (less Kennedy), 4x Draft + 1x Gibbons

Who would you Trade or Delist to fit them all in??

A bit of both tbh. We worked out in the previous video that there are likely to be more delistings to come so it's a bit grey at the moment.
 

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No dickhead policies are over-rated... 'Dickhead' is such a subjective term. SOS was a dickhead himself picking private school boys. A club champion who was a terrible recruiter.



Is that you Percy!
 
So we've now got 40 players on the list after delisting four and two retirements.

If list sizes reduce to 42, with the addition of Williams and three draftees, we need to cut another two players as a minimum.

According to AFL.com, Williamson will receive and Kennedy should receive new contracts. That leaves the list of potential cuts to:

Moore
Polson
Owies
Macreadie
Phillips

IMO, we need to keep Macreadie on for at least one more year with Goddard, BSOS and Finbar leaving. If we have injuries down back, we'll be exposed very quickly.

Would like Phillips to get one more year too. We took him on as a project player. It was always going to take more than one year to get him physically ready for AFL. I'd like to see what he can do with another 5-7kgs on his frame before parting ways.
 
So we've now got 40 players on the list after delisting four and two retirements.

If list sizes reduce to 42, with the addition of Williams and three draftees, we need to cut another two players as a minimum.

According to AFL.com, Williamson will receive and Kennedy should receive new contracts. That leaves the list of potential cuts to:

Moore
Polson
Owies
Macreadie
Phillips

IMO, we need to keep Macreadie on for at least one more year with Goddard, BSOS and Finbar leaving. If we have injuries down back, we'll be exposed very quickly.

Would like Phillips to get one more year too. We took him on as a project player. It was always going to take more than one year to get him physically ready for AFL. I'd like to see what he can do with another 5-7kgs on his frame before parting ways.
get rid of moore. from there its tough. perhaps polson
 
get rid of moore. from there its tough. perhaps polson

They'd be the first two I'd delist too.

Polson has been on the list for four years now. Shown signs, but hasn't shown enough for the time he has spent on the list.

Not sure how the club view Owies in the scheme of things, but to me, Macreadie and Phillips appear to have the most development left in them. Macreadie could still be a very good player with continuity. Just needs a good run with injuries.
 
Yes - I think it's because they don't live in the 'real world' - which apparently is those 5 or 6 suburbs between Broadmeadows and Braybook where everyone is tough !
Lol laughable right
Never mind how many footy scholarships private schools are now dishing out - it’s a huge industry atm, claiming all private school footy players are from a different world 😂
 
Lol laughable right
Never mind how many footy scholarships private schools are now dishing out - it’s a huge industry atm, claiming all private school footy players are from a different world 😂
A lot of them are scholarships so the families arent necessarily rich. Even if they are so what?

Footballers come from all sorts of background. Judge them on their talent and effort, not these preconceived prejudices.
 

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They'd be the first two I'd delist too.

Polson has been on the list for four years now. Shown signs, but hasn't shown enough for the time he has spent on the list.

Not sure how the club view Owies in the scheme of things, but to me, Macreadie and Phillips appear to have the most development left in them. Macreadie could still be a very good player with continuity. Just needs a good run with injuries.
Owies being a Cat B rookie helps his case to stay on, doesn’t really impact the list, unless we’ve got one or two potential Cat B alternatives we’d like to bring in this offseason, which I doubt is the case.
 
Owies being a Cat B rookie helps his case to stay on, doesn’t really impact the list, unless we’ve got one or two potential Cat B alternatives we’d like to bring in this offseason, which I doubt is the case.

The talk I heard was 42, with 38 on the primary list and 4 rookies comprising both Cat A & B rookies.

I could be wrong, but that's the assumption I'm working off. Probably should have stated that prior.

But yea, you're bang on the money about Owies currently being outside the official count of list spots.
 
SPS: Unfortunate to be played out of position this year. He is alright off the HBF but lacked some hardness when the opposition player took him to the back pocket. I think long term he'll have benefited with the experience of playing in defence. Doubt we will see him as a defender next season.

DOW: Difficult to assess as he was injured this season and only played 3 games. Needs a clear run at it. Saying that, he hasn't lived up to the hype and I'd trade Dow for any one of Stack, J Higgins, Derek Eggmolesse-Smith or RCD from Richmond in a heartbeat.

LOB: Bust! should never have drafted him @ pick 10 - Should have stuck to cricket.

Cunningham: Displays all the attributes, but always gets injured. Hard to play him, gibbons, fisher in the same team.
Interesting analysis
Lob a bust then why not Dow as well..similar stats and Dow had a lot of that in the middle ....unbelievable actually
Lob a very very good runner but not a heap further to comment on....Dow has always lacked a tank and a desire to get among it...maybe he is saving himself for something else......both have been disappointing
They will try again tho......won't be elite.....just serviceable hopefully
 
SPS: Unfortunate to be played out of position this year. He is alright off the HBF but lacked some hardness when the opposition player took him to the back pocket. I think long term he'll have benefited with the experience of playing in defence. Doubt we will see him as a defender next season.

DOW: Difficult to assess as he was injured this season and only played 3 games. Needs a clear run at it. Saying that, he hasn't lived up to the hype and I'd trade Dow for any one of Stack, J Higgins, Derek Eggmolesse-Smith or RCD from Richmond in a heartbeat.

LOB: Bust! should never have drafted him @ pick 10 - Should have stuck to cricket.

Cunningham: Displays all the attributes, but always gets injured. Hard to play him, gibbons, fisher in the same team.

SPS will probably play more of a running role next season. SPS had to play a more accountable role this season allowing Simmo to provide run and carry. Not everyone can have this role as it would leave your defense too exposed. Trust me when I say this, SPS will win everyone's hearts back next season. It won't be a coincidence that with Simmo out of the side, SPS will increase his output.

Dow was injured and should never have been selected in the first place. You could see when he was playing that he couldn't get out of first gear. He was hampered and couldn't showcase his attributes. He'll get his body right over the offseason and prepare for a massive 2021.

LOB is developing nicely and just needs a bit more time. Just be patient. It was obvious from the reports of the reserves matches that they were developing aspects of his game. These things can come together very quickly, especially during an offseason/preseason where you add another 2-3kgs of size and have an extended training block refining your craft.

As for Cuningham, he's playing in a position that makes you highly inconsistent. Half forwards will never consistently get 20+ disposals. Just look at Connor Rozee. Up and down like a yoyo this season. That's the nature of the position.
 
For anyone that still wants Petruccelle, West Coast supporters are giving him away. :)
What a difference a creative small forward makes. Someone like Ryan or Papley are exactly what we need but how to find it?

Seriously what is with this bullshit about private school boys not being good footballers?

That's how some people think - You're defined by the school you go to or defined by the clothes you wear.....but not who you are.
These people like groups and will usually define themselves as a part of a group and not an individual, probably because they don't think much of themselves.
 
For anyone that still wants Petruccelle, West Coast supporters are giving him away. :)

What a difference a creative small forward makes. Someone like Ryan or Papley are exactly what we need but how to find it?

I don't understand all the love for Petruccelle.

Wonder if the club is looking at Will Papley :p I can already see the headlines.
 
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