List Mgmt. 2020 List Management II
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As things stand, Carlton has moved on the most players having not attracted any currency, along with Essendon & North Melbourne, with a total of 11 players.
We keep telling ourselves we have depth......but keep shuffling out players in large numbers. Maybe this year
Still a little disappointed in losing Macreadie and Phillips though.
We keep telling ourselves we have depth......but keep shuffling out players in large numbers. Maybe this year
Still a little disappointed in losing Macreadie and Phillips though.
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To those who are suggesting Oscar McDonald: if that's the kind of player we're looking at, we would have been better off sticking with Macreadie.
I'm not confused, I just don't think Rowe was solid. He conceded so many goals through bad positioning and contested work.
Kennedy is not that, and Macreadie wasn't really that either. These are outlandish statements.
Our list was heavy with non performers , being critical is to teams interest, unpleasant but a reality.
There are still quite a few that need to be reviewed, players that just can't get on the park or are unable to harvest talent On/Off inconstant types.
List optimization can take few years but we've been too slow in the past to react, we're improving.
There are still quite a few that need to be reviewed, players that just can't get on the park or are unable to harvest talent On/Off inconstant types.
List optimization can take few years but we've been too slow in the past to react, we're improving.
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What do you think the coaches feel about Stocker? - this bloke is a total mystery to me...please expand ?
P.S whilst not a total waste of time and money like some players still on the books - Kennedy is pure depth now as far as the club is concerned - nothing more. His best attributes are on display when playing forward - because he can mark and kick a goal better than any other third tall in the side but with the hope that Charlie comes back and McGovern starts to earn some of his pay and Levi still playing and SOJ still there - Kennedy is depth at best in Club figurings. Kennedy may have had ambitions to become a FT mid when he arrived - that is what he was slated for - but injury and bad management of it have stuffed that...pity but that is life in AFL for a lot of players...
now give me the bad news on Stocker- apart from the weirdo deluxo fact that he left the team and went home and wasn't traded out...?
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They're roughly the same size, I can't see him doing too well on Hawkins, King, Dixon, Cameron etc who are all much larger men.
The sky isn't going to fall if we are unable to recruit a crumbing forward or KPD to develop but personally, I'd rather we did find one of each rather than simply opting to say **** it, we're good as is.
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As things stand, Carlton has moved on the most players having not attracted any currency, along with Essendon & North Melbourne, with a total of 11 players.
We keep telling ourselves we have depth......but keep shuffling out players in large numbers. Maybe this year
Still a little disappointed in losing Macreadie and Phillips though.
I hear your disappointment Harks but HM hasn’t been able to get on the park. I’ve been hoping for the last couple of off seasons that he might come good....
If we are honest to ourselves, we have removed enough driftwood over the last 2 or 3 years to start an inferno.
Our best 22 is good, missing really just 1 quality inside ball winner, but go past the 22 and the depth falls away quickly.
How far we go will depend largely on whether the young developing midfielders (Philp, Stocker, Dow, Fog, LOB, Kemp) come on or not, and whether Charlie can get fit.
The Dow/LOB draft could come back to bite us on the backside. We really needed that 1 extra young gun midfielder. To much up picks 3 and 10 in the same draft, picking midfielders, is a fair blemish. Hopefully at least 1 of these 2 emerges as a topline midfielder but the jury is well and truly out.
How far we go will depend largely on whether the young developing midfielders (Philp, Stocker, Dow, Fog, LOB, Kemp) come on or not, and whether Charlie can get fit.
The Dow/LOB draft could come back to bite us on the backside. We really needed that 1 extra young gun midfielder. To much up picks 3 and 10 in the same draft, picking midfielders, is a fair blemish. Hopefully at least 1 of these 2 emerges as a topline midfielder but the jury is well and truly out.
96 players in 8 years = Ave. 12 per year.
That's over two whole playing lists in 8 years.....Not bad.
Macreadie, like Giles could have been a player but that's two KPD's I had high hopes for, losing their careers for injury.
Phillips was a high risk/high reward project player, but right now, we have little time for projects. That's fair enough.
We have to have a competitive VFL side as well as a quality AFL side next year. It just works better that way an which is why I think we'll be acquiring some senior players for both squads.
As I said in another thread. All those we have delisted we can pick up again after the draft if need be.
This draft while compromised is one where gems could be pick up late due to no exposure. If the team have a couple up their sleeve hoping they slide it might mean we take more selections. It’s good to be flexible this draft
This draft while compromised is one where gems could be pick up late due to no exposure. If the team have a couple up their sleeve hoping they slide it might mean we take more selections. It’s good to be flexible this draft
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It’s time to expect more than maybe he’ll be right in ???
we need to hit the park yesterday not when their bodies right ,sick of waiting for players to get over niggles etc go get ready players now that can contribute from day dot
HELLO Saad Williams Fogarty
we need to hit the park yesterday not when their bodies right ,sick of waiting for players to get over niggles etc go get ready players now that can contribute from day dot
HELLO Saad Williams Fogarty
And they get McInnes this year, how is he NGA eligible it’s just ridiculous, Bumbers have 2 this year as well, fair dinkum give us a ****EN break free hits left right and centre and what did we get for assistance a couple of mature age picks worth next to nothing and then the year after they hand the ugly step child in GC a treasure trove of assistance, it’s a ****EN joke enough already, so called equalisation is ****ing killing us with its inequality.
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So you don’t agree with me and therefore my thoughts on these 2 players capabilities are outlandish?
We’ll see. Just remember your statements!
SurreyBlue how does the coaching panel feel about Stocker?
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Agree - some of our very own supporters have some strange beliefs.........
Feel like I had this pretty spot on back on Sept 19!
EDIT: Phillips is the one I didn't see coming, I think in any other year he gets another contract. He strikes me as the type that will dominate a lower league kicking bags for a couple of seasons and will find himself back on an AFL list once his body is more developed.
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I will tell you what I know. See if you can join the dots.
The kid is a footballer and not an athlete.
The kid believes in himself and has self belief in his attributes.
The kid isn’t a follow the leader type but an extrovert.
The kid doesn’t suck up to get ahead.
We need more of these types in our team.
Honestly wouldn't mind if we looked at Jackson Trengove just for KPD/Ruck depth over some of the other names that have been thrown around the last few pages
Thanks for clarifying what you were trying to say.
You're entitled not to rate him highly, but in most people's eyes if you play 100 AFL games you're probably a solid player.
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He's OOC next year though.
Got the same competitiveness and game sense as his brother, and comes from an ultra successful family in general. You'd back him to get the absolute most out of himself and get up to speed pretty quickly. TDK's development has been nothing short of amazing in the few years he's been at the club. Who would of thought he'd be the only best 22 mainstay of our first 3 2017 ND picks after 3 years?
Hopefully the club is laying the ground work early and already starting some succession planning for Jones. SDK would be perfect.
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Ultimate swiss army knife - plays ruck and key defender competently, but has never been above B-grade. Not the worst option given where our list sits.
Suckling also pretty unlucky to be delisted. Surely he gets a go somewhere else?
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I rate him, but turning 31 next year and is in a similar boat to Levi. He's a short term option, whereas I prefer a project ruck/key defender.
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