Training 2020 Pre Season Training

[cleanhands]

Apparently he was a late recruit to football and hasn't been playing all that long, which is probably what interested us.

Kicking and game sense not the two easiest skills to pick up

 

[MRB37]

 

[Elite Crow]

That’s because we can’t kick, Talias going down the youth path leading to inconsistencies which is a cop out when senior players can’t hit a target.

 

[Apsaalooke]

He’s right. We all know that we need to go backwards to go forward. But we’ll all whinge, including me.

 

[Elite Crow]

He’s right. We all know that we need to go backwards to go forward. But we’ll all whinge, including me.

Load up with the kids and the only thing I’ll whinge about is experienced players ****ing up like not being able to hit targets. Makes the new game plan futile.

 

[Vader]

We all know that we need to go backwards to go forward.

Yes, but it would be nice to see Kelly look forwards - even briefly - after he takes a mark. Sideways, backwards, sideways, backwards... kick.

 

[GreyCrow]

Thats good

Never mind the argument about kids v seniors - that fact that this has been mentioned is a credit to the club. Good messaging

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Thats good

Never mind the argument about kids v seniors - that fact that this has been mentioned is a credit to the club. Good messaging

First time I can recall us looking beyond the four points this weekend

 

[Elite Crow]

First time I can recall us looking beyond the four points this weekend

I reckon given how we’ve gone these Marsh games, they are finally having to be honest to temper expectations.

 

[Coopers]

Agree with this

When we were forced to switch the ball in the back half last year it tended to be a very slow, defensive movement. Rather than quick to open up space on the other sidevof the ground.

The defenders simply dawdled across and we were faced with the same problem as with the initial possession.

We perhaps lacked the footskills and speed in the back half last year to utilise an effective switch but hopefully will see a bit more dare and imagination this season

Yeah but when Rat tries to dodge a tackle and run a bit and gets pinged, it's important we absolutely dogpile on him for trying to actually move the thing with some speed. He'll learn.

 

[cleanhands]

Yeah but when Rat tries to dodge a tackle and run a bit and gets pinged, it's important we absolutely dogpile on him for trying to actually move the thing with some speed. He'll learn.

Slow learner nearly 100 Games and still hasn’t got it out of his system

 

[kulak]

Load up with the kids and the only thing I’ll whinge about is experienced players ******* up like not being able to hit targets. Makes the new game plan futile.

Baffling that we have Matt and Brad as our primary handball receivers.

Brad should be winning the contest, and then hand balling to Smith Seedsman Milera etc.

When we have our worst kicks as our primary handball receivers you should expect that our delivery forward by foot will be poor.

This is handball receives during the Marsh series:

 

[GreyCrow]

Baffling that we have Matt and Brad as our primary handball receivers.

Brad should be winning the contest, and then hand balling to Smith Seedsman Milera etc.

When we have our worst kicks as our primary handball receivers you should expect that our delivery forward by foot will be poor.

This is handball receives during the Marsh series:
View attachment 837790

Genuine question with no malice but how many were to Brad and vice versa?

Sometimes the brother give/receive can be good but not if its overdone

 

[Elite Crow]

I’m sure someone on here posted that Matt calls for the ball a lot and can get quite heated if he’s not given the ball.

If it wasn’t on here I’ve definitely heard it elsewhere

 

[Danger_zone]

Baffling that we have Matt and Brad as our primary handball receivers.

Brad should be winning the contest, and then hand balling to Smith Seedsman Milera etc.

When we have our worst kicks as our primary handball receivers you should expect that our delivery forward by foot will be poor.

This is handball receives during the Marsh series:
View attachment 837790

Are you able to include the ones who played State of Origin and average it per game ? Keen to see where BSmith sits in this.

 

[Squiba]

Baffling that we have Matt and Brad as our primary handball receivers.

Brad should be winning the contest, and then hand balling to Smith Seedsman Milera etc.

When we have our worst kicks as our primary handball receivers you should expect that our delivery forward by foot will be poor.

This is handball receives during the Marsh series:
View attachment 837790

Unfortunately it's been the case for a while that Matt and Brad are the best inside mids we have for spreading from the contest to receive that quick give.

Yolmen and Greenwood never had the ability or game sense to make that initial move from the coal face, and Sloane has never had a lot of spread from the initial contest either.

Imo it's always been a coaching directive that outside players are meant to have the speed and footskills, and they've never worried about spread from the inside of the contest.

Issue is, most often there isn't the time for Rat or Seed to run in off the wing, or Smith/Milera to come off the hbf to receive in tight, unless they immediately start flooding toward the contest the moment it happens.

I think this is a big reason we tended to get "sucked in" to the contest. We had no line breakers on the inside and as such, players with natural positioning skills such as Matt and Brad took up the majority of our receives. The coaches wanted better ball users receiving, but for some God forsaken reason, Campo kept playing the same trio give or take a Yolmen or Greenwood in the centre bounce rotation.

Hopefully the additions of Jones/Smith/Seed/Milera can rectify this, but my god has it been a shocking direction taken with the inside midfield the last five or more years.

 

[Thetrader15]

Nothing wrong with cleanhands

Do we give him #19?

 

[Thetrader15]

Baffling that we have Matt and Brad as our primary handball receivers.

Brad should be winning the contest, and then hand balling to Smith Seedsman Milera etc.

When we have our worst kicks as our primary handball receivers you should expect that our delivery forward by foot will be poor.

This is handball receives during the Marsh series:
View attachment 837790

But do they kick after the HB receive or give another HB?

 

[Mutineer]

Baffling that we have Matt and Brad as our primary handball receivers.

Brad should be winning the contest, and then hand balling to Smith Seedsman Milera etc.

When we have our worst kicks as our primary handball receivers you should expect that our delivery forward by foot will be poor.

This is handball receives during the Marsh series:
View attachment 837790

All of Macrae, Hopper, Hunter and the Crouich brothers are not dissimilar in game style I wouldn't have thought.

 

[Mutineer]

But do they kick after the HB receive or give another HB?

You do realise Brad is one of a rare breed of inside mids that play almost exclusively inside that actually kicks more than he handballs yeah?

 

[deeztreez]

Can sum1 with advertiser subscription please post...

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Can sum1 with advertiser subscription please post...

It says absolutely nothing

Not a single specific thing about the findings of the review or what went wrong

 

[Grenville]

You do realise Brad is one of a rare breed of inside mids that play almost exclusively inside that actually kicks more than he handballs yeah?

Interesting also, that wasnt always the case - remember early on it was common to see 1:2 games from him. Definitely a change last year.

 

[Elite Crow]

It says absolutely nothing

Not a single specific thing about the findings of the review or what went wrong

Only one comment from Dunstall stood out, different groups were not working together and we made the changes that needed to be made

 

[GreyCrow]

You do realise Brad is one of a rare breed of inside mids that play almost exclusively inside that actually kicks more than he handballs yeah?

Yeah nah

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Year	Team	GM	K	H	D	M	G	B	T	HO	FF	FA	GA	I50	CL	CG	R50	BL
2019​	Crows​	22​	338​	328​	666​	65​	11​	12​	112​	1​	23​	14​	6​	86​	120​	82​	41​	14​
2017​	Crows​	20​	237​	324​	561​	56​	8​	10​	137​	0​	25​	14​	13​	83​	117​	71​	34​	3​
2016​	Crows​	16​	155​	213​	368​	26​	4​	1​	102​	0​	15​	20​	7​	44​	75​	54​	19​	4​
2014​	Crows​	11​	125​	147​	272​	26​	5​	6​	61​	1​	8​	6​	6​	40​	56​	30​	22​	​
2013​	Crows​	14​	158​	185​	343​	61​	4​	5​	62​	0​	9​	8​	6​	44​	49​	28​	22​	6​
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