List Mgmt. 2020 Trade and List Management Thread III

[GS WARRIORS]

wow - Joyce really was bad at the trade table

 

[giantroo]

Players set to take 10 per cent pay cut

JON RALPH

AFL players expect to take a pay cut of around 10 per cent next year after a telephone hookup with their player union on Tuesday.

Players were told there are no firm answers yet on a pay deal or list sizes, but the expectation is clubs will have lists of around 38 plus rookies next year.
The Herald Sun understands the new pay deal is likely to land with pay cuts of around 10 per cent next season, with the AFLPA having to agree to an alternation of the current collective bargaining agreement.

The league has had to show the PA its detailed financial estimates for next year, having already agreed to a lesser TV deal with broadcaster Channel Seven.

The AFL is aware there might be no full crowds at AFL venues given the risk of COVID in 2021 and clubs are also bracing for some members not to re-sign given financial pressures.

But the players could eventually agree to a pay cut on the 2021 salary cap, with a clawback provision if the league exceeded its financial estimates.
The players are also keen to open up other revenue streams next year for the AFL so they can maximise money coming into the game, which might help minimise pay cuts.

The league had initially pushed for a pay cut of up to 30 per cent, with the AFL’s soft cap for clubs to come in at only $6.2 million next year.
But the players are expected to relent on their initial offer of only a five per cent cut given the league’s detailed estimates.

Club officials including Sydney chief executive Tom Harley have pushed in recent days for the league to clarify its TPP position as soon as possible.

 

[Event Horizon]

At least now Melbourne has 26, 31 and 33 right? That gives us something to play with.

 

[Psicosis]

wow - Joyce really was bad at the trade table

Yes... Quite crazy that people on here actually defend him.

He is the worst negotiator in AFL history!

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Preuss secures a second round pick.

**** me sideways and call me Patsy.

 

[Only Forwards]

Preuss secures a second round pick.

fu** me sideways and call me Patsy.

hard pass.

 

[King Corey]

Preuss secures a second round pick.

fu** me sideways and call me Patsy.

Remember when a handful of us slagged the Preuss->Melbourne trade when WE ****ing sweetened the deal to get Tyson?

 

[Le Grille]

Completely flummoxed just shows how poor the previous regime was.

BTW we must be getting something reasonable for Brown, surely?


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[Harris 10]

I reckon we'll get two of those dees 2nd rounders and give them a future next year, possibly a 3rd rounder

 

[Shinboner1]

Preuss secures a second round pick.

fu** me sideways and call me Patsy.

Semi decent ruckmen are always worth good picks, everyone's looking for backups.

 

[Psicosis]

Semi decent ruckmen are always worth good picks, everyone's looking for backups.

Unless they play for North.

 

[GS WARRIORS]

Remember when a handful of us slagged the Preuss->Melbourne trade when WE ****ing sweetened the deal to get Tyson?

i was one - did not want tyson and didn't want us to move Preuss

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Semi decent ruckmen are always worth good picks, everyone's looking for backups.

Semi decent?

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

hard pass.

Me thinks he doth protest too much....

 

[Shinboner1]

Unless they play for North.

Look at our list manager at the point of trade.

 

[Event Horizon]

Remember when a handful of us slagged the Preuss->Melbourne trade when WE ****ing sweetened the deal to get Tyson?

At the time I had some hope that Tyson could be used as part of the inside mid rotation to help Cunners. That is a distant memory now.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Usayed Givashe]

i was one

There were plenty. Preuss was a Swedish Massage whilst Tyson was the Fist of Fury that keeps on giving.

 

[trooroo4life]

wow - Joyce really was bad at the trade table

People on here actually defend the bloke. Was way out of his depth.

 

[Event Horizon]

On Higgins we are in a strong position, as he's contracted and we may well decide to use him as a mentor to our midfield group for one more season. But with Brown we got ourselves into a real no man's land IMO, and didn't handle it the best way.

 

[Psicosis]

Regardless of what happens - Take comfort in knowing that Joyce would have accepted the following...

Geelong - Higgins
North - Narkle

Melbourne - Ben Brown

50

Ben Brown

Age

31

Ht

200cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

2.2

5star

D

7.9

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

1.6

1star

M

3.7

4star

T

0.9

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

North - Pick 43 & Alex Neale-Bullen

 

[Le Grille]

Regardless of what happens - Take comfort in knowing that Joyce would have accepted the following...

Geelong - Higgins
North - Narkle

Melbourne - Ben Brown

50

Ben Brown

Age

31

Ht

200cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

2.2

5star

D

7.9

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

1.6

1star

M

3.7

4star

T

0.9

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

North - Pick 43 & Alex Neale-Bullen

Jebus that is too close to true


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[Usayed Givashe]

Regardless of what happens - Take comfort in knowing that Joyce would have accepted the following...

Geelong - Higgins
North - Narkle

Melbourne - Ben Brown

50

Ben Brown

Age

31

Ht

200cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

2.2

5star

D

7.9

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

1.6

1star

M

3.7

4star

T

0.9

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

North - Pick 43 & Alex Neale-Bullen

nah he would have folded and given him a 4th year, don't be ridiculous.

 

[Sillygit]

Excellent

 

[hurricane]

On Higgins we are in a strong position, as he's contracted and we may well decide to use him as a mentor to our midfield group for one more season. But with Brown we got ourselves into a real no man's land IMO, and didn't handle it the best way.

If we had decided that Brown needed to be moved on, how should they have handled it?

I think that Collingwood is showing that these situations are not easy to manage well.