2020 US Presidential Nominees

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Loving the diversity for the VP position.

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Maybe apply a little bit of critical thinking, have a peek at the top of the ticket, and think why the VP candidate was considered from that pool, and why all of them being women actually does support diversity on the ticket.
 

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So the elephant in the room is Biden's out and out racism and cognitive decline.

The majority of Americans think he won't make it to 4 yrs even if he wins.

Great plan by the Dems keep hiding your candidate so no one notices how far gone he is.
ay least now we know who will be the president in Feb nezt year. Shame Democrats are too gutless to own up to it and are pretending dementia Joe will last more than a couple of months. Even sadder that neither party has a suitable candiate at the head of their ticket.

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As I've previously put out the challenge to Balls In , who has failed it woefully, I put the challenge to you. Please post a full interview showing Biden's cognitive decline. So far all that has been posted is lots of gaffes, or verbal fumbles, taken out of longer interviews where about 10 seconds is usually included. Which, given that Biden had a stutter and has been gaffing for decades, doesn't show any change whatsoever.

And Biden is still doing interviews, after all, the one he recently shot back at the Fox journalist that got criticised was an interview with journalists. So where is the evidence?

Offsetting that is that Biden participated in the primary debates that occurred this year, has done a number of long interviews, participated in a 1.5 hour round table discussion that was televised, etc.

What this really shows is how desperate the right wing is to try and find anything that will stick to Biden, and detract from their president. The Ukraine story was shown to be bollocks. The Reade allegations fell apart. He is now a communist with a lefty progressive agenda. He's not really in charge. He's going to step aside. He has dementia. He's hiding in a basement. He is a DNC puppet. That the DNC rigged the primary for him. That he's racist. That Biden won't do the debates (despite the fact he's signed up for them).

None of it is sticking, because the desperation it reeks of is so obvious to anyone who isn't already committed to a Trump vote. There are no facts to support this, just supposition and conjecture.

It also nicely ignores that Biden's strategy is being very successful.

I know it goes over alot of you air heads but that's kinda the point........Trump is President and the Democrats are hiding their candidate..

Lol can't wait for the Debates.
You do realise that the DNC doesn't actually run campaigns? That's why it was Obama's campaign machine, or Hillary's, or how every single presidential nominee in the primary had their own campaign structure? That Biden put the campaign team together in 2018/2019, and is the one who runs it?

Also, please note that Biden's team has agreed to the debates. Trump's team has not. You might want to think about why that is.

"I choose Kamala Clinton, I mean Hillary Harris oh you know the thing"!
Back to the desperation, wanting to bring Hillary back into it. Because more and more Republicans are realising Hillary lost, Trump didn't win, and are desperate for the election to be about Hillary again.
 
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And we know that the Dems wouldn't have closed the border to Chinese, I haven't seen evidence as to other ways they would've handled it other than their performance with their states, which hasn't been good either. All things considered it's fair to say it's been a sh*t situation and would've regardless of who was president
The clear evidence that the Dems would have handled it better is that they wouldn't have thrown out the playbook that had been created to deal with pandemics, they wouldn't have fired the team based in China who were meant to monitor for new diseases, they wouldn't have left multiple key positions in important government departments empty because Trump couldn't get around to fill them, they wouldn't have put their son-in-law with no credentials in charge of the pandemic response, and then decided to not do anything since it was Democratic states being impacted, they wouldn't have tried to slash funding to the CDC.

Hell, we don't even really know what they would have done with the China travel ban. Since if they'd been President they would have had a lot more information, and many of the internal advisors were giving very worrying reports and the ban needed to happen.




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Clearly the USA needs to give middle aged, wealthy women of colour preference over other candidates who might have better competence.
Whilst that concept is reasonably sound, let's not forget they are nominating a 70 something year old bloke with questionable capacity issues in an open primary. IF they can't get the POTUS nominee right, the cupboard is reasonably bare for the Vice nominee.
 
Or Biden has shown a maturity and level-headedness to, in recognising his own faults, select a running mate who brings together all parts of the Democratic Party.
If she's bring together "all the parts" of the democrats why did no-one vote for her during the nominations? She was chosen because the democrat vote is built on a black voting monolith and Joe's handlers had to balance having an old white racist bloke as Presidential candidate.
 
Clearly the USA needs to give middle aged, wealthy women of colour preference over other candidates who might have better competence.
Are you concerned about people using their wealth as a springboard for a shot at public office all of a sudden?
 
Or maybe he was misinformed that there were peaceful protestors there? Either way I made my point, it doesn't really matter if there were peaceful protestors there or not
Ok, let's parse this out.

"Or maybe he was misinformed that there were peaceful protestors there?": So you're saying Trump was misinformed, not that his statement is correct. Therefore you're admitting that the journalists weren't taking him out of context? Good, we're agreed.

"Either way I made my point,": lol, right

"it doesn't really matter if there were peaceful protestors there or not": no, it doesn't. The point is that it the protest was always a white supremacist rally, and whether they were peaceful or not doesn't matter. As soon as Trump described some of the white supremacists as "fine people", for understandable reasons people got upset. And journalists reporting that Trump had called white supremacists fine people was absolutely accurate.
 
Maybe apply a little bit of critical thinking, have a peek at the top of the ticket, and think why the VP candidate was considered from that pool, and why all of them being women actually does support diversity on the ticket.

Making a qualifying factor for a position a feature that you were born with is the epitome of tokenism and discounts the work of the people considered.

It reduces the entire career of people into black, woman, ability.

I think it's sexist, racist and disgusting but I'm more for the individual merits of the person being the driving factor for the reward of success.

I actually thought Michelle Obama would be best for this token position, when Biden dies or steps down in two years then former President Obama becomes the first man and they effectively get four terms of him in the white house - which I think they would love.

It looked a slam dunk to me.system.
 
Ok, let's parse this out.

"Or maybe he was misinformed that there were peaceful protestors there?": So you're saying Trump was misinformed, not that his statement is correct. Therefore you're admitting that the journalists weren't taking him out of context? Good, we're agreed.

"Either way I made my point,": lol, right

"it doesn't really matter if there were peaceful protestors there or not": no, it doesn't. The point is that it the protest was always a white supremacist rally, and whether they were peaceful or not doesn't matter. As soon as Trump described some of the white supremacists as "fine people", for understandable reasons people got upset. And journalists reporting that Trump had called white supremacists fine people was absolutely accurate.

It was a right wing rally, not all right wing people are white supremacists although I see how that would help you make a point against it.

I guess it falls into the "deplorables" comment from Clinton essentially saying that anyone to the right of her is a horrible racist bigot.
 
Making a qualifying factor for a position a feature that you were born with is the epitome of tokenism and discounts the work of the people considered.

It reduces the entire career of people into black, woman, ability.

I think it's sexist, racist and disgusting but I'm more for the individual merits of the person being the driving factor for the reward of success.

I actually thought Michelle Obama would be best for this token position, when Biden dies or steps down in two years then former President Obama becomes the first man and they effectively get four terms of him in the white house - which I think they would love.

It looked a slam dunk to me.system.

Gee perhaps the fact they're all qualified and hold significant positions means that the other factors are important to include perspectives in office that Biden doesn't already cover? Your critical thinking seems to be a bit lacking too but hardly surprising.
 

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If she's bring together "all the parts" of the democrats why did no-one vote for her during the nominations? She was chosen because the democrat vote is built on a black voting monolith and Joe's handlers had to balance having an old white racist bloke as Presidential candidate.

Politically, par for the course innit.

How did Pence go in the 2016 primary? What was he brought on as VP for other than to balance Trump for the evangelicals?
 
Gee perhaps the fact they're all qualified and hold significant positions means that the other factors are important to include perspectives in office that Biden doesn't already cover? Your critical thinking seems to be a bit lacking too but hardly surprising.

Maybe I can see that it's pandering under the guise of being progressive to narrow the field down to "woman" and "black" then choosing from them.

Just like when they thought all women would be voting for Clinton because they share genitals. It's cheap, it's disgusting.

Imagine excluding the women and the black people from the choices for VP, it would be abhorrent. It's the exact same thing.

An individual shouldn't be lesser or more because of their gender, race, religion, sexuality etc.
 
It was a right wing rally, not all right wing people are white supremacists although I see how that would help you make a point against it.

I guess it falls into the "deplorables" comment from Clinton essentially saying that anyone to the right of her is a horrible racist bigot.
No, it wasn't. That is the point, and the article I posted earlier showed. It was a white supremacist rally. It was specifically organised by a white supremacist group, who were doing their third such rally in a month or so. It was aimed at white supremacists, it was using networks of white supremacists organisations to prepare. The advertising before hand encouraging people to attend was blatantly white supremacist.

Which is the very reason why when Trump said there are fine people on both sides, everyone said WTF?!
 
Maybe I can see that it's pandering under the guise of being progressive to narrow the field down to "woman" and "black" then choosing from them.

Just like when they thought all women would be voting for Clinton because they share genitals. It's cheap, it's disgusting.

Imagine excluding the women and the black people from the choices for VP, it would be abhorrent. It's the exact same thing.

An individual shouldn't be lesser or more because of their gender, race, religion, sexuality etc.

Again - par for the course? What was the pool for Trump's VP? Were you similarly outraged that the serious chances were narrowed down to "men" and "white"?
 
Politically, par for the course innit.

How did Pence go in the 2016 primary? What was he brought on as VP for other than to balance Trump for the evangelicals?
This is next level tho! She publically called him a racist and that she believed the women accusing him of rape and sexual assault. Now they are best buddies and want to run the free world together and she's a she you know, and black!
 
Again - par for the course? What was the pool for Trump's VP? Were you similarly outraged that the serious chances were narrowed down to "men" and "white"?
Did Trump say at the start he was going to choose a white man?

Biden said he was considering four black women for the role, didn't he?

"Serious chances" is an interesting term to use considering most of the politicians are white men. Odds on favorite would be a white man. To narrow it to black women is done for a reason and I think the outward reason that the public get is different to the internal reason, which is that they think voters are stupid and will vote for simple things like "black" and "woman".
 
Ha ha poor old Biden has his VP chosen for him and she's publically called him a racist and sexual predator :$

In fact, Harris prefaced her comments by specifically saying shewasn’t making that accusation.
“I’m going to now direct this at Vice President Biden,” she said when she got the floor. “I do not believe you are a racist, and I agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground.”

Copy paste click send. If you spent more time thinking for yourself rather than be someone's puppet you might get somewhere
 
No, it wasn't. That is the point, and the article I posted earlier showed. It was a white supremacist rally. It was specifically organised by a white supremacist group, who were doing their third such rally in a month or so. It was aimed at white supremacists, it was using networks of white supremacists organisations to prepare. The advertising before hand encouraging people to attend was blatantly white supremacist.

Which is the very reason why when Trump said there are fine people on both sides, everyone said WTF?!

Can I point out the double standard of labeling everyone at the Charlottesville protests as white supremacists because you claim it was organised by them and not labeling the BLM protestors as left wing anti-Family and anti-community safety?

Not everyone at these protests are there under the same banner. That's a perfectly reasonable position to hold.
 
Maybe I can see that it's pandering under the guise of being progressive to narrow the field down to "woman" and "black" then choosing from them.

Just like when they thought all women would be voting for Clinton because they share genitals. It's cheap, it's disgusting.

Imagine excluding the women and the black people from the choices for VP, it would be abhorrent. It's the exact same thing.

An individual shouldn't be lesser or more because of their gender, race, religion, sexuality etc.
Meanwhile an inclusivity appointment in Victoria has led directly to the biggest economic and public health crisis in Australian history.
 
This is next level tho! She publically called him a racist and that she believed the women accusing him of rape and sexual assault. Now they are best buddies and want to run the free world together and she's a she you know, and black!
Ah, same same but different, gotcha :tearsofjoy:

Anyway, I know its not the way Donnie rolls but not sure why the fact that she called him out but was still welcome as VP would be seen as a negative.
 
This is next level tho! She publically called him a racist and that she believed the women accusing him of rape and sexual assault. Now they are best buddies and want to run the free world together and she's a she you know, and black!
Sure, and Lindsay Graham and Ted Cruz?
 

In fact, Harris prefaced her comments by specifically saying shewasn’t making that accusation.
“I’m going to now direct this at Vice President Biden,” she said when she got the floor. “I do not believe you are a racist, and I agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground.”

Copy paste click send. If you spent more time thinking for yourself rather than be someone's puppet you might get somewhere
I think it was the debate before that where Biden was linked to those politicians who worked to segregate the schools.
 

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