List Mgmt. 2021 List Management: Draft, Trade, Free Agency and Academy

[Taylor]

If Chol chooses to leave and say it’s to the Suns. Can they match or get compensated?
I ask cause I wonder if they could package up some picks for Cerra

If the contract he leaves to is valuable enough then Richmond will get free agency compensation for him.

 

[theGav56]

We'd have to find a pick in the 15-20 region which I didn't specify. Plenty of options to achieve that this year which have already been discussed.

I think your point about playing styles of Amiss and Treacy is relevant and should be a factor in our draft. I don't know the players well enough to agree or disagree about those two, but for me JVR being a multi positional player is a big tick.

 

[Bring back Drum]

I was/wasn't/was happy at the thought of this trade. Hope he just needs a new environment and a younger list with the promise of opportunity.

Injuries, lack of opportunities & hopefully a growing maturity may see him prosper at home.
I’m not sure he has a lot in common with those at Geelong in similar positions, he probably feels like the younger brother you try to ignore, being around Andy & Caleb could be brilliant for him.

 

[Lach72]

So with Benning, if he gets to 49 we can basically just sit and wait until he’s called out and then match with our next pick which is 81 or hold and let him float through to the Cat B section is that right? And same with Motlop?

 

[Taylor]

So with Benning, if he gets to 49 we can basically just sit and wait until he’s called out and then match with our next pick which is 81 or hold and let him float through to the Cat B section is that right? And same with Motlop?

Correct

 

[_007_]

So with Benning, if he gets to 49 we can basically just sit and wait until he’s called out and then match with our next pick which is 81 or hold and let him float through to the Cat B section is that right? And same with Motlop?

Assume you meant 40 - yes.

 

[Docker82]

So with Benning, if he gets to 49 we can basically just sit and wait until he’s called out and then match with our next pick which is 81 or hold and let him float through to the Cat B section is that right? And same with Motlop?

Pretty much. Only real difference is that for Motlop it’s a faint hope, whereas with Benning it’s a real possibility.

 

[Lach72]

Yes 40, fat fingers strike again.

So basically any trade we do for picks need to be for picks up to 39

 

[ImperialPurple]

Ive heard we are right into Wiederman...not sure how i feel about it.

Pretty hilarious seeing as when they traded out Hogan to us, Dees fans were all yabbing on about how Wiederman was as good as Hogan anyway and a perfectly good replacement. If we got him for for a 3rd round pick, and he kicks 30 goals for us next year, does that mean we've 'won' the Hogan trade??

 

[vidwhal]

In that scenario, simplify it and either 43 or F3 (which should be mid 40's) for Clark. Throw the F2 out of the equation. I don't care if he is contracted, we shouldn't be paying that for someone who can't get a game while spuds like Holmes are favoured.

Fogarty traded for 41.
Butler traded for 56.
Crozier traded for 40.
Hogan traded for 54.
Hannan traded for 53/54.

I want him at Freo, but at the same time will be annoyed if we pay too much for him. You don't give the bakery $10 for a sausage roll just because you are hungry.

You do at Optus Stadium.....

 

[nurries]

Yes 40, fat fingers strike again.

So basically any trade we do for picks need to be for picks up to 39

if we are interested in Benning then yes otherwise we risk losing one of those picks we acquire between 40-81.

 

[vidwhal]

Pretty hilarious seeing as when they traded out Hogan to us, Dees fans were all yabbing on about how Wiederman was as good as Hogan anyway and a perfectly good replacement. If we got him for for a 3rd round pick, and he kicks 30 goals for us next year, does that mean we've 'won' the Hogan trade??

Yup, I recall that too about Weideman. I'd be ok with him coming across for cheap, as long as it doesn't prevent us taking of the WA boys

 

[Lach72]

if we are interested in Benning then yes otherwise we risk losing one of those picks we acquire between 40-81.

Quite like this for us.

could be interesting to have used 5 picks on players who are not Motlop and Benning before 40 and then sit back and see what happens

 

[Taylor]

if we are interested in Benning then yes otherwise we risk losing one of those picks we acquire between 40-81.

There's a potential loop hole where we can trade that next pick away into the future when Benning is bid on.

Let's say our draft hand is: #52, #78, #120

Benning bid on at #49 and it would cost us pick #52 but we say to Brisbane that we will trade them #52 and #78 for their future 3rd. Then match the Benning bid with #120

Then we trade our future 3rd for pick #53 and #79 from Brisbane

 

[DragoDelph]

There's a potential loop hole where we can trade that next pick away into the future when Benning is bid on.

Let's say our draft hand is: #52, #78, #120

Benning bid on at #49 and it would cost us pick #52 but we say to Brisbane that we will trade them #52 and #78 for their future 3rd. Then match the Benning bid with #120

Then we trade our future 3rd for pick #53 and #79 from Brisbane

I’d rather not play funny buggers.
Last time we did, the AFL invented the pre-finals bye

 

[nurries]

There's a potential loop hole where we can trade that next pick away into the future when Benning is bid on.

Let's say our draft hand is: #52, #78, #120

Benning bid on at #49 and it would cost us pick #52 but we say to Brisbane that we will trade them #52 and #78 for their future 3rd. Then match the Benning bid with #120

Then we trade our future 3rd for pick #53 and #79 from Brisbane

So many permutations now

 

[Taylor]

So many permutations now

Key point is that you can't trade the same trade back, it has to be:
Brisbane's future 3rd for our pick #52 and #78
Fremantle's future 3rd for pick #53 and #79

So we swap 3rd round picks to keep our third round pick

 

[vidwhal]

There's a potential loop hole where we can trade that next pick away into the future when Benning is bid on.

Let's say our draft hand is: #52, #78, #120

Benning bid on at #49 and it would cost us pick #52 but we say to Brisbane that we will trade them #52 and #78 for their future 3rd. Then match the Benning bid with #120

Then we trade our future 3rd for pick #53 and #79 from Brisbane

I thought the AFL made moves to close that loophole after the way Sydney used it to draft Blakey.

The Swans found a sneaky draft loophole last year. The AFL just closed it

The Swans found a sneaky draft loophole last year. The AFL just closed it

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[stax on the mull]

Eric Benning is eligible to be drafted by the Dockers after pick 20 is what I just read. That's from August 12th on the AFL site.

Isn't he in a different situation to Jesse Motlop -something to do with the more remote location he was from?

Moot point as people are saying he won't get picked before 40.

(having said that the same article also refers to Jye Amiss as an East Fremantle forward - so I guess it could be wrong more than once)

 

[Vimal Anand]

If we trade in an A-grade key forward - 'unexpected item in bagging area'

Post of the year....

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[CapitalA]

If we got jvr at 24 I'll do my best attempt at a cartwheel

Yeah pretty sure Richmond are keen with one of their 3 top 20 odd picks.

 

[freo99]

There's a potential loop hole where we can trade that next pick away into the future when Benning is bid on.

Let's say our draft hand is: #52, #78, #120

Benning bid on at #49 and it would cost us pick #52 but we say to Brisbane that we will trade them #52 and #78 for their future 3rd. Then match the Benning bid with #120

Then we trade our future 3rd for pick #53 and #79 from Brisbane

What if someone bids on him after we have used all our vacant list spots, can we match a
main draft bid with a rookie pick.
any loopholes left after using all 5 of our spots.

 

[Taylor]

What if someone bids on him after we have used all our vacant list spots, can we match a
main draft bid with a rookie pick.
any loopholes left after using all 5 of our spots.

Then we are stuffed. We can't take him.

 

[Van_Dyke]

Eric Benning is eligible to be drafted by the Dockers after pick 20 is what I just read. That's from August 12th on the AFL site.

Isn't he in a different situation to Jesse Motlop -something to do with the more remote location he was from?

Moot point as people are saying he won't get picked before 40.

(having said that the same article also refers to Jye Amiss as an East Fremantle forward - so I guess it could be wrong more than once)

yeah pretty sure as a (wyndham? kununurra?) product he's classified differently to motlop and thus we have access after 20 which won't matter anyway probably

 

[BettercallSaul]

Yep. Benning after pick 20 and Motlop after pick 40.