List Mgmt. 2021 List Management: Draft, Trade, Free Agency and Academy

[Paracleet]

Exactly, and I'm expecting covid-19 to run longer in WA than it does in the rest of Australia so a weekend in Perth will take almost three weeks.

3 or 4 months conceivably, I think probably less. By next footy season we'll all be in the same boat for sure. But opinions on the details aside I'm sure everyone would agree it's not going to be a long enough time frame for it to rationally be a primary consideration for a multi year employment contract.

 

[DragoDelph]

Late update (two weeks-ish)
Haven't bothered adding Neale in, as that cam and went between versions.

Spoiler: INCOMING

Category	Name	Notes	Value	Current Status
IN	Stephen Coniglio	Potential Salary / Injury Dump from GWS. They owe us for Hogan. pick 54 seems fair, although maybe they get away with a second rounder. Barrett adding more fuel to the fire last week, still seems unlikely	Fut R2	SPECULATION (CORNES)
IN	Jordan Clark	Still no official news. Some word getting around that this has been agreed in principle. Wait for GEE to finish their finals campaign.	~ R3	75%
IN	Scott Pendlebury	Talk that he has re-signed with the pies.	Free Agent	RE-SIGNED
IN	Darcy Cameron	Potential Free Agent if Lobb Leaves	Free Agent	SPECULATION (BF)
IN	Sam Petrevski-Seton	Linked via a Cerra deal. In reality only worth a 3rd/4th rounder. Looks like a Galati Special	R4	25%
IN	Zac Fisher	Like SPS, linked through the Cerra deal. Signed a new contract last year so unlikely unless things have turned sour. No new info, anything would come late	R2-R3	UNLIKELY
IN	Luke Jackson / Luke McDonald 11 Luke Mcdonald Age 29 Ht 189cm Wt 87kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.9 4star K 9.6 4star HB 7.3 5star M 3.8 4star T 2.7 4star MG 317.1 4star D 14.1 3star K 7.3 3star HB 6.9 4star M 2.4 3star T 3.3 4star MG 205.0 3star D 19.2 5star K 10.2 4star HB 9.0 5star M 3.2 4star T 3.6 5star	Honestly, some people just like to dream. And that's ok.	2x R1 Each +	DREAMING
IN	Quinton Narkle	Looking for more opportunity, although more likely to head to Richmond to be with his great mate Shai	R3	UNLIKELY
IN	Charlie Constable	Linked last year, and still unable to break into Geelong's side despite putting up good numbers week in/week out. Link with Brayshaw.	R4	SPECULATION
IN	Jack Billings	More than likely stay at the Saints according to media	Free Agent	RE-SIGNED
IN	Matt Crouch	Snuff has randomly dropped hints here. Blame him	Free Agent	RE-SIGNED
IN	Will Brodie	Showing some interest. GC will need to move on some players to create list spots. Should be pretty cheap	F3-F4	SPECULATION
IN	Sam Weideman	Some lukewarm interest reported. We have been rumoured to be interested in getting a "lesser" forward into the squad. May be Weids, May be Brander, may be someone we don't see coming.	F3	SPECULATION

Spoiler: OUTGOING

Category	Name	Notes	Value	Current Status
OUT	Adam Cerra	100% out the door. Question is, is Carlton the only suitor? Melbourne have been linked, but don't have the draft capital to get a deal done.	R1 + R2 +++	GONE
OUT	Rory Lobb	Contracted for 1/2 more years. Linked with GC, or a Melbourne club. Freo adamant he's staying so will play hard ball if this eventuates	R1/R2 Depending on club	SPECULATION
OUT	Darcy Tucker	Still yet to receive a new deal. Mounting speculation that he may leave as part of a Clark / Brodie deal	R2	SPECULATION
OUT	Reece Conca	Will not be offered a new contract	DELISTED	DELISTED
OUT	Taylin Duman	Likely not to be offered a new contract	DELISTED	DELISTED
OUT	Nathan Wilson	Re-signed for 12 months	R3?	RE-SIGNED
OUT	Leno Thomas	Will not be offered a new contract	DELISTED	DELISTED
OUT	#29	Who is this? did we even have a number 29 on the list year? Mounting talk from within of his return and at full fitness to boot.	R4/R5	STAYING
OUT	Blake Acres	Club may entertain offers if anyone is interested in acquiring a sponge cake.	R3/R4	UNLIKELY
OUT	Brett Bewley	May stay depending on who comes in. More than likely depth and not worth a lot	DELISTED	DELISTED
OUT	Stefan Giro	Likely just end being delisted	DELISTED	DELISTED
OUT	Tobe Watson	This one was a surprise	DELISTED	DELISTED

 

[Taylor]

3 or 4 months conceivably, I think probably less. By next footy season we'll all be in the same boat for sure. But opinions on the details aside I'm sure everyone would agree it's not going to be a long enough time frame for it to rationally be a primary consideration for a multi year employment contract.

I'm expecting covid to be a thing for Australia for another two to three years so making decisions on multi year contracts based off of historically how each state has handled small outbreaks would be a very real thing.

 

[Midnite65]

Fair point. I think if we get our small forwards right and play Fyfe as a mid forward, that will take pressure off our talls.

Also if we can get the attitude and buy in from the players right it will do wonders. Melbourne have pretty much the same list they have had the last couple of years when they werent going well but they have buy in now from al their B and C graders.

 

[Taylor]

Also if we can get the attitude and buy in from the players right it will do wonders. Melbourne have pretty much the same list they have had the last couple of years when they werent going well but they have buy in now from al their B and C graders.

Arguably their greatest skill has been the availability of their team.

They have been very healthy all year.

 

[manpurple]

Not really, it would have been eaten up by Daicos at 1

Not quite. They would be trading it this year at the value of pick 2.

 

[Tonga Bob]

Arguably their greatest skill has been the availability of their team.

They have been very healthy all year.

Is Darren Burgess still at Melbourne?

 

[Tbonefreo]

Lobb and 6 for 3 and 19.

Id laugh.

 

[Mr Cheese]

Also if we can get the attitude and buy in from the players right it will do wonders. Melbourne have pretty much the same list they have had the last couple of years when they werent going well but they have buy in now from al their B and C graders.

Cannot like this enough. When a team is up and about, there's an infectious confidence to the team. Everyone does the 1%'s and there are no passengers, everyone does stuff that makes everyone else look good, everyone starts kicking straight - it's why you see "premiership players" go for way too much to other sides and then they spud it up. Buy in is everything. We've actually got a decent side, and with buy in it wouldn't take too much for us to be where Melbourne are now.

 

[Eski3]

Lobb and 6 for 3 and 19.

Id laugh.

Who does 3 get us that 6 doesn't?

 

[theGav56]

To be fair, if you had of told me 12 months ago a forward line of McDonald, Brown & Fritsch (with Jackson/Gawn occasionally) was going into a GF favourite next year I would have had you committed.

Or that Geelong's forward line in 2021 with the addition of Higgins and Cameron wouldn't have an impact I would have been amazed.

 

[Tbonefreo]

Who does 3 get us that 6 doesn't?

Whos the likely top 3? Take away Darcy and Darcy's. Jason Horne-Francis, that Callahan kid and.....

Maybe you're right. 3 and 19 for Lobb and f4

 

[Bring back Drum]

To be fair, if you had of told me 12 months ago a forward line of McDonald, Brown & Fritsch (with Jackson/Gawn occasionally) was going into a GF favourite next year I would have had you committed.

Pickett has been sensational as well, hasn’t missed a beat.

 

[big freo]

Where do you reckon we rank Josh Rachelle, if he's available at 6/8 do we take him then grab a WA KPF at 8/10

 

[Midnite65]

Where do you reckon we rank Josh Rachelle, if he's available at 6/8 do we take him then grab a WA KPF at 8/10

Too small. Would prefer if the first criteria we have this year is no draftee under 190cm except maybe Motlop if we can get him late. .

 

[Pommie Docker]

Where do you reckon we rank Josh Rachelle, if he's available at 6/8 do we take him then grab a WA KPF at 8/10

It would be very Dockery to take small before our intended key target and then we don't get him with the later pick.

 

[Dayts]

Here’s my 3 Way Hail Mary
Think Freo paying little overs but seems like we all have a win.

Freo out - Cerra , Lobb , future 2nd
Dees out - Weideman , future 1st
GC out - 3 , 19 , 22

Freo in - picks 3,19,22
decent hand plus our current picks.

Dees - get their man Cerra, with little out.
GC - get two Ready made forwards plus a future first x future 2nd

Lobbs a mercenary will go where the $ is. And hopefully Weideman goes where he can have a fresh start and get $

 

[Docker82]

We are people still putting up trades with Lobb in them. The media and this board's in the knows have said it isn't happening.

Best thing we can do with Lobb is have him at the club until he retires (roughly 4-5 years imo) and have a replacement developing in the background drafted this year or next.

 

[Taylor]

Freo in - picks 3,19,22

Very decent hand.

#3, #8, #19, #22 and #27

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Here’s my 3 Way Hail Mary
Think Freo paying little overs but seems like we all have a win.

Freo out - Cerra , Lobb , future 2nd
Dees out - Weideman , future 1st
GC out - 3 , 19 , 22

Freo in - picks 3,19,22
decent hand plus our current picks.

Dees - get their man Cerra, with little out.
GC - get two Ready made forwards plus a future first x future 2nd

Lobbs a mercenary will go where the $ is. And hopefully Weideman goes where he can have a fresh start and get $

What will we do with only 17 teams next year when the whole Melbourne club get arrested for highway robbery?

 

[Dayts]

Absolute steal for Melbourne, but sounds like Cerra is keen.
And Freos hands are tied so might be best outcome.
And maybe GC could structure Lobbs salary into their cap over a few years that he’s not going to getting here.

Was my Hail Mary….

 

[Purpellian Anchor]

took 3rd most contested marks of any player in 2020…. Players like that dont grow on trees don’t unfortunately

actually that's pretty funny - Taberner 2nd most - we had two in the first three and we finished eleventh - definitely our problem not enough tall marking players in the forward line

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Absolute steal for Melbourne, but sounds like Cerra is keen.
And Freos hands are tied so might be best outcome.
And maybe GC could structure Lobbs salary into their cap over a few years that he’s not going to getting here.

Was my Hail Mary….

Sorry, was joking around but dont want you to feel dissuaded. Melbourne would bite your hand off for that deal and GC are getting shafted, we are somewhere in between IMO.

Its difficult including Melbourne though because it seems almost impossible without them giving up a best 22 player.

 

[Purpellian Anchor]

Sorry, was joking around but dont want you to feel dissuaded. Melbourne would bite your hand off for that deal and GC are getting shafted, we are somewhere in between IMO.

Its difficult including Melbourne though because it seems almost impossible without them giving up a best 22 player.

ummm I've decided to keep Lobb - end of discussion

 

[Purpellian Anchor]

ummm I've decided to keep Lobb - end of discussion

for now.