List Mgmt. 2021 List Management: Draft, Trade, Free Agency and Academy

[Taylor]

I wonder why Lobb is so keen to go? I rate him, he’s a good complement to Tabs leading style. And he can kick a bag.

His partner's dad, who used to work at Freo, offered her a nice job at the new organisation he works at in Melbourne.

 

[Quokka]

Bugger these players and wanting to have a life outside of football

 

[Wizard]

His partner's dad, who used to work at Freo, offered her a nice job at the new organisation he works at in Melbourne.

If that is the integrity that said former Freo CEO operates with then i am happy we have seen the last of him.

 

[Superkoops]

I doubt anyone is actively pursuing Lobb. It’s clearly Freo putting it out there to gauge interest. Worth a pick in the 20s, but given his monster contract id say more so in the 30s.

We’d be looking at more than a second round pick for Lobb. Lobb’s contract could be renegotiated for 3 years for $1.75Million. The reports I keep reading indicate about $700k per year so likely slightly overstated by our good media. We’ll be keeping him if a decent deal isn’t presented.

I’d be targeting Richmond’s pair of second rounders.

26, 28 > Lobb, F3 (which on points rates Lobb as end of first round draft pick).
26 > Clarke
6, 25, F2 > Cerra, 27, F4
27, 28 > 17, WB F2

6 (Erasmus) 8 (Rachele), *17 (JVR), *25 (Williams)

We can use one of our three future 2nds (Frem F2, Carl F2, WB F2) to trade up:

ie Brisbane 14 & 18 > 17, 25 and F2

 

[Van_Dyke]

I fully expect it. I also look forward to our new draftee's who will also be defenders.

welcome josh gibcus

 

[apuchar]

It was mentioned somewhere yesterday that lobb said he wasn't going to ask for a trade. It might be the journo who has it wrong.

 

[wakojako]

If Richmond are interested in Cerra and Lobb, than 7, 15 and 26 would be a win. We would have 7, 8, 15, 26, 27. A lot we could do with that hand. We could even trade 26 and 27 for Bulldogs 17. I would even pay half of Lobbs salary for that deal.

 

[Paracleet]

I have always wondered if Taylor 's frequent absurd trade suggestions are a delightfully subtle mix of irony and trolling (A trade that values Lobb at 5. chefskiss.gif), or in fact serious.

 

[Demons09]

I'd expect #7 and #15 for Lobb and our #25 but figured a straight swap for #7 would be less massively in our favor as it would need to be to release him.

Lol

 

[theGav56]

General opinion from non aligned footy people is that Jordan Dawson is worth a pick in the mid teens, that being the case Jordan Clark is really worth no more than 27. Freo may have to stump up slightly more for Geel to appease their fans but it should be a value in the 20's no more. If Geel baulk call their bluff.

Why would Geelong bluff when they can just be clear about what is needed for them to release Clark? They will still be chasing finals and Clark can be useful for them. A new recruit won't be.

I'm not worried about Geelong's list managers strategy in this, I'm worried about ours.

 

[theGav56]

I have always wondered if Taylor 's frequent absurd trade suggestions are a delightfully subtle mix of irony and trolling (A trade that values Lobb at 5. chefskiss.gif), or in fact serious.

It's a "we don't want to trade, but if you really, really want to..." trade value.

 

[Raw e Lobbster]

 

[Joose]

Lobb is a strange one. Doesn't play to his full ability but is nonetheless very important to the team structure.

No way would he be going unless the club had a ready-to-go replacement already lined up.

 

[Raw e Lobbster]

His partner's dad, who used to work at Freo, offered her a nice job at the new organisation he works at in Melbourne.

Rory is already bringing in around $700K, so can't be about money. Either one of two thing the way i see it. 1. He's not happy at Freo/or wants to keep the misso happy and/or 2. He's been given a nudge and Fremantle have a set plan in place to bring a similar type into the club. I'm in favor of the 1st, which pisses me off considering what we did to recruit him.

 

[Hogwild]

Why would Geelong bluff when they can just be clear about what is needed for them to release Clark? They will still be chasing finals and Clark can be useful for them. A new recruit won't be.

I'm not worried about Geelong's list managers strategy in this, I'm worried about ours.

I get it mate - we don't agree on this. Let's just see what happens hey?
I've said it will be a value in the 20s for Clark and I stand by it - and yeah....... "it's just my opinion"

 

[guidodp15]

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someone owes me a Carton.

man up and pay as i cant be bother finding who made the bet

 

[Hogwild]

Carlton forum reckon pick 6 will get it done because "Matt Rendell said so".
He's part right..............pick 6 will be part of it.

 

[WaywardSonSon]

Carlton forum reckon pick 6 will get it done because "Matt Rendell said so".
He's part right..............pick 6 will be part of it.

Is that kind like, "Cos Stone Cold said so!"

? Lolz

 

[DragoDelph]

Late update. Linked names are getting smaller and smaller.

Spoiler: INCOMING

Category	Name	Notes	Value	Current Status
IN	Stephen Coniglio	Potential Salary / Injury Dump from GWS. They owe us for Hogan. pick 54 seems fair, although maybe they get away with a second rounder. Latest word is that he is staying.	N/A	SPECULATION (CORNES)
IN	Lachie Neale	Neale has poured cold water on this happening. Whispers still around that this could happen	F1 + 2nd	SMOKE
IN	Jordan Clark	Still no official news. Some word getting around that this has been agreed in principle. Word is he has told the club he wants out. Still no official release	20 - 27	99%
IN	Darcy Cameron	Potential Free Agent if Lobb Leaves. No talk will remove from the list	Free Agent	SPECULATION (BF)
IN	Sam Petrevski-Seton	West Coast Bound	-	-
IN	Luke McDonald	Honestly, some people just like to dream. And that's ok. Have taken Jackson off the list, McDonald is being courted	R1 + R2	UNLIKELY
IN	Quinton Narkle	Re-Signed with Geelong	-	-
IN	Charlie Constable	Linked last year, and still unable to break into Geelong's side despite putting up good numbers week in/week out. Link with Brayshaw. Has a one year on offer from Geelong, looking at options	R4	SPECULATION
IN	Will Brodie	Showing some interest. GC will need to move on some players to create list spots. Should be pretty cheap. No further movement so far	F3-F4	SPECULATION
IN	Sam Weideman	Re-signed with Melbourne	-	-
IN	???????	Fyfe has used words such as "exciting" and other ITK's have hinted at something big happening behind the scenes. No-one yet has anything concrete, although rumours abound. Club is keen to keep it's first rounder(s) this year so anything would be for futures/players/late picks. All we know is a forward on the outer with their current club. McDonald? Fisher?		SPECULATION

Spoiler: OUTGOING

Category	Name	Notes	Value	Current Status
OUT	Adam Cerra	100% out the door. Question is, is Carlton the only suitor? Now Officially nominated Carlton	R1 + R2 +++	GONE
OUT	Rory Lobb	Noise won't go away. Freo not moving on him, all noise from out of the club is that he will be staying. Melbourne media still getting hints of noise.	R1/R2 Depending on club	SPECULATION
OUT	Darcy Tucker	Still yet to receive a new deal. Club wants to hold.	R2	SPECULATION
OUT	Blake Acres	Club may entertain offers if anyone is interested in acquiring a sponge cake.	R3/R4	UNLIKELY

 

[theGav56]

I get it mate - we don't agree on this. Let's just see what happens hey?
I've said it will be a value in the 20s for Clark and I stand by it - and yeah....... "it's just my opinion"

That's more or less the same as me: top price pick 27, or walk away.

 

[theGav56]

Rory is already bringing in around $700K, so can't be about money. Either one of two thing the way i see it. 1. He's not happy at Freo/or wants to keep the misso happy and/or 2. He's been given a nudge and Fremantle have a set plan in place to bring a similar type into the club. I'm in favor of the 1st, which pisses me off considering what we did to recruit him.

It could be about the money (so quite likely is) as in his manager wants to try to get a longer deal done now while he has trade value.

 

[Lach72]

Rory is already bringing in around $700K, so can't be about money. Either one of two thing the way i see it. 1. He's not happy at Freo/or wants to keep the misso happy and/or 2. He's been given a nudge and Fremantle have a set plan in place to bring a similar type into the club. I'm in favor of the 1st, which pisses me off considering what we did to recruit him.

Is two years on 700k then possibly being punted better than 3 years on 400k and living with your partner where she wants to be?

 

[theGav56]

Is two years on 700k then possibly being punted better than 3 years on 400k and living with your partner where she wants to be?

2 years thanks.

 

[Hogwild]

That's more or less the same as me: top price pick 27, or walk away.

Personally I think 27 is fair but it will be between 20 and 27 IMO

 

[ozzie69]

Personally I think 27 is fair but it will be between 20 and 27 IMO

If he's not prepared to play wing and only interested in defense, then is there any point in trading?