Agree.
But getting 6 or 7 players a graders the same age is a recipe for success.
We don't have the cattle to chase a flag in the next 4 years, we need to look at the 4 to 8 year window.
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But getting 6 or 7 players a graders the same age is a recipe for success.
We don't have the cattle to chase a flag in the next 4 years, we need to look at the 4 to 8 year window.
I'm no massive fan of Lobb, his output is average at best. However he's been in our B22 since being signed on.
An average player (by league standards) playing a key position in our B22. I think that speaks volumes of where our list is at.
An average player (by league standards) playing a key position in our B22. I think that speaks volumes of where our list is at.
5 and 19 please
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We would only get 19 and the second round pick upgrade for him guys haha. We trying to rob them again aha?
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Yes.
If someone walked up to you and was going to drive off in your car then you aren't going to be satisfied with market value, you want them to suffer.
And pick #19 isn't even of their own, not to mention the AFL paying the salary for some of their players to keep them marketable. We aren't dealing in a fair environment here.
So requirement is now #5, #19 and their 2022 1st round pick.
Ohhhh boy I would love this haha! Realistically though would you take 19 and 23? These picks fall in the Jack Williams, Vanrooyen, Erasmus and Browne range
And if we don't keep players the cycle will continue.
It sends a clear message to players within our system that if they are not happy with whatever it may be then they can ask out, regardless of the list management strategy we have.
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No, pick #5 has to be involved.
He is contracted for two years and exactly the player they need, not going home for any family reasons, it's mercenary and that's fine - but it costs them.
Three first round picks, but we can upgrade our second to their AFL gifted #19 if we have to
Losing both Lobb and Hogan, do they really want to play for Freo, or mercenaries.
Do we do the due diligence or just behave like drunken sailors?
Doesn’t matter how many picks we have, the club is poorly run.
Losing Hogan is bad enough for a pick in the 50’s.
Without heart we will win nothing, I think the Bell has rung.
Do we do the due diligence or just behave like drunken sailors?
Doesn’t matter how many picks we have, the club is poorly run.
Losing Hogan is bad enough for a pick in the 50’s.
Without heart we will win nothing, I think the Bell has rung.
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We could maybe slip in something about former Freo staff getting some revenge drawing our players out.
There is a future possible where we win a trade to lose Lobb, a player who has been a match winner for us and is a required player not just in our structure but also squad.
But we need to leave with it heavily in our favor.
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We will give them a tall forward/ruckman with two years to run on his contract. Our only one of those.
That's heavy.
They need him far more than we need to be trading him, considering we are in quite a bad place if we do trade him.
Pick #5, #19, their 2022 1st and now also #55, #60 and #66
I love your optimism hehe! I still reckon he is staying. Cant see freo letting him walk whatsoever
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20 odd years of going around and around in circles and getting nowhere. Lets keep doing it , why stop now. 
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You keep saying this, what do you want them to do different?20 odd years of going around and around in circles and getting nowhere. Lets keep doing it , why stop now.
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Taylor likes to leave other teams crying in the dirt in her trade situations. While I think she is optimistic, if we trade Lobb and don’t get a mature but young replacement or at least pick 5 and a Cameron or something, I might give up on this club.
I refuse to believe we are stupid enough to trade one of 3 KPFs on our list under contract for 2 years, regardless of how good he is
Bugger all chance we get pick 5 alone. Stupid that he be traded but Gold Coast aren’t going to bend over again like Weller.
Ralphy is full of poo and if any truth at all is really a case of them throwing their hat in the ring. If we start demanding pick 5 and a bunch of other unrealistic picks then they will walk away.
I thought if Lobb is actually to leave it was due to his lady having a job or needing to go to Melbourne.
We would get a favourable trade for Lobb being under contract. I expect it will amount to nothing, unless there is a tall player we want involved like Luke Jackson.
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Draft key forwards for a start and develop them correctly. It's damning on our list management to have a developing 18 year old holding down a key forward position with an injury prone rookie and a forward ruck as the only other key forwards . History is not on our side re an 18 year old under size as a key forward . He should be developed at Peel. Draft mid size forwards instead of D grade mids and try to turn them into forwards.
Would Naughton or Allen improve the side if Cerra wasn't on the list ?
Pitt or Darling, now there's a question on list management. Take the good key if he is available at the pick. Loading up on mids and flankers hasn't worked.
If Lobb goes use his and our early picks on key and mid size forwards.
Give the half back flankers a rest. No more flankers please.
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I don’t think many disagree with you here but I think all the key forwards this year are about Treacy’s size of 194-196cm.
Someone posted a clip of Bells wants this off-season and reading between the lines, they want Williams. If Cerra goes, getting Erasmus (or Roberts from SA) and JVR/Amiss as well would be a good haul
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Of Fremantles early pick mids who has been better than average?
Our best mids as youngsters have been a forward pocket, a full back and a full forward. Our great tagger in Crowley a key forward in under age,
How many AA mids have we had?
Fyfe and Pav . Has Mundy been AA?
The mids in the GF were Fyfe, Mundy, Crowley of whom were not mids in under age.
De Boer a rookie pick . Not one a top 10 draft pick.
The reason we lost the GF was a lack of a class key forward to assist Pav who was a top 10 key forward pick.
I rest my case , good mids are plentiful, good key forwards are like rocking horse shit, if one is available ffs grab them.
Our best mids as youngsters have been a forward pocket, a full back and a full forward. Our great tagger in Crowley a key forward in under age,
How many AA mids have we had?
Fyfe and Pav . Has Mundy been AA?
The mids in the GF were Fyfe, Mundy, Crowley of whom were not mids in under age.
De Boer a rookie pick . Not one a top 10 draft pick.
The reason we lost the GF was a lack of a class key forward to assist Pav who was a top 10 key forward pick.
I rest my case , good mids are plentiful, good key forwards are like rocking horse shit, if one is available ffs grab them.
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