Teams 2021 Rate My Pre-Season Team

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Andrew Birch said:
Pros:
12 keepers
Most of the premo's coming off very good seasons
plenty of VC & C options

Cons:
Almost 30% of the cap on just 4 players is overkill.
Hately is too speculative a starting pick for mine and Preuss has a difficult early draw & unproven as a #1 ruck.
17 first year rookies being named for Rd1 is unlikely this year.
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What about this one? Just by chance I'd already made it as well, before your reply. No Hately or Preuss. No overpriced Lloyd either. Grundy comes back in so a set and forget ruck line.

I did a little bit of research on the rookies actually, I think that you could be surprised how many play in round 1, really its just the best ones who are playing who'll start in my team so I guess you could say that they are kinda placeholder in a way. According to the Herald Sun article though all of the rookies in the starting 22 barring Laurie are at least 'likely' to play. iirc they had DGB, Phillips, Powell and Rowe as 'very likely'. Everyone else was at least in the article as '50-50'. Gould is just because I mean surely he'll play this season. I reckon I'll be able to find 16 cheapos who are playing, most of which will hopefully be regulars or somewhat regular (Treacy is just a super cheap ruck bench loophole DPP player, I don't expect him to ever play). Thoughts on this new team? Supercoach 2021 initial team.png
 
Shinboner1 said:
I don't think lloyd is overpriced. He'll still dominate the backline at Sydney and only got 1 pick under 100 in 2020.
Don't pick him at your own risk.
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hes a bit overpriced as are most players to an extent at the start of the season. i just think that there's better value in the backline thats all. lloyd will definitely drop to around 590k in the first 8 rounds imo, he'll be one of the first players i target to bring in if i don't end up starting him anyway.

i feel like its better to cheap out there in favour of a luke mcdonald who could average 110 than in any other line where there isn't really an alternative that i see so much upside in. As I said in the 2021 defenders forum, if you have the coin to get jakey lloyd then get him for sure, but if coin is tight then hes the one i'd consider going cheaper on and picking an alternative, just because i rate the luke mcdonald pick very highly and actually stewart is a pretty appealing pick in the backline for me as well (very reasonably priced, consistent and likely to average 100, durable too), williams even if he plays midfield only.
 
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MagicGnome97 said:
hes a bit overpriced as are most players to an extent at the start of the season. i just think that there's better value in the backline thats all. lloyd will definitely drop to around 590k in the first 8 rounds imo, he'll be one of the first players i target to bring in if i don't end up starting him anyway.

i feel like its better to cheap out there in favour of a luke mcdonald who could average 110 than in any other line where there isn't really an alternative that i see so much upside in. As I said in the 2021 defenders forum, if you have the coin to get jakey lloyd then get him for sure, but if coin is tight then hes the one i'd consider going cheaper on and picking an alternative, just because i rate the luke mcdonald pick very highly and actually stewart is a pretty appealing pick in the backline for me as well (very reasonably priced, consistent and likely to average 100, durable too), williams even if he plays midfield only.
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I’ve thought that for the past 3/4 years and not started him. It’s not enjoyable watching everyone else with him.
 
MagicGnome97 said:
What about this one? Just by chance I'd already made it as well, before your reply. No Hately or Preuss. No overpriced Lloyd either. Grundy comes back in so a set and forget ruck line.

I did a little bit of research on the rookies actually, I think that you could be surprised how many play in round 1, really its just the best ones who are playing who'll start in my team so I guess you could say that they are kinda placeholder in a way. According to the Herald Sun article though all of the rookies in the starting 22 barring Laurie are at least 'likely' to play. iirc they had DGB, Phillips, Powell and Rowe as 'very likely'. Everyone else was at least in the article as '50-50'. Gould is just because I mean surely he'll play this season. I reckon I'll be able to find 16 cheapos who are playing, most of which will hopefully be regulars or somewhat regular (Treacy is just a super cheap ruck bench loophole DPP player, I don't expect him to ever play). Thoughts on this new team?View attachment 1033655
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I like this 13 keepers version better than the first one. If strict GnR is your game than this is a solid team.

Idk, I can't see how 1st year rookies, most of whom will not have played a game for 18 months are going to be ready to roll at AFL level by Rd1. The uncapped 2nd & 3rd year rooks are more likely to get early games imo.
 
Andrew Birch said:
I like this 13 keepers version better than the first one. If strict GnR is your game than this is a solid team.

Idk, I can't see how 1st year rookies, most of whom will not have played a game for 18 months are going to be ready to roll at AFL level by Rd1. The uncapped 2nd & 3rd year rooks are more likely to get early games imo.
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yeah i agree, i just have no idea who at this point, but really as i said its just whoever (sub 200k) is playing, the majority of the rookies in that team are filler because many of them wont play, but surely there will be enough cheapos to fill a team, many wont be first year players. Pay more attention to my starting keepers (premos) and mid pricers really and just the general team structure. I really like this team actually. Having at least 12 keepers (I'm not sure I'd call Heppell a keeper) is a really strong base to build upon over the season I think. A lot of these guys should be right up there as the top scorers in their positions too.

What do you mean by GnR, guns n rookies? Yeah I prefer that generally. The less trades you waste the better. For me you are either in my team to be a high scoring keeper (top 10 mid, top 6 defender or forward, top 3 ruck) or to make me money. I have nothing against midpricers but generally its really hard I reckon to predict mid pricers who'll make good money. fallen premos is the only safe-ish method. i've wasted at least 4 trades every season when i've started more midpricers. for me midprice is like 220-470k btw. getting rookies is safer cos the bar for them to make significant money is a lot lower and its generally pretty hard to lose money on them. midpricers have way better job security though so if an amazing opportunity presents itself of course i'll get that midpricer, i have nothing against them. guns and rookies with 3 midpricers max is just proven to be the best approach imo.
 
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yeah i agree, i just have no idea who at this point, but really as i said its just whoever (sub 200k) is playing, the majority of the rookies in that team are filler because many of them wont play, but surely there will be enough cheapos to fill a team, many wont be first year players.
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But thats the thing. There weren't enough rookies to play GnR in 2020! And 2021's pool will be far, far worse than the year before for the reason Andrew Birch said - the majority of that draft pool didn't play football for over a year, so they're no better chance (read: a metric **** tonne worse chance) of playing round 1.

If you want GnR, rock on bra. Just make sure you have a mid price team as back up heading into round 1, because if you're sweating on rookies being named and picking whatever crap is picked for R1 just to fill 30 players, then your 2021 is 2022 already.
 

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But thats the thing. There weren't enough rookies to play GnR in 2020! And 2021's pool will be far, far worse than the year before for the reason Andrew Birch said - the majority of that draft pool didn't play football for over a year, so they're no better chance (read: a metric fu** tonne worse chance) of playing round 1.

If you want GnR, rock on bra. Just make sure you have a mid price team as back up heading into round 1, because if you're sweating on rookies being named and picking whatever crap is picked for R1 just to fill 30 players, then your 2021 is 2022 already.
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if i cant do it then i cant do it, i'll know much closer to round 1. last season the only non playing player i had in round 1 was gould and throughout the season i had no issues replenishing with rookies. it could be a lot worse this season of course but mate i'm no supercoach scrub, the team can change if it needs to to have at least 29 playing in round 1 ideally 30. but since we dont know i'm going to pick a team the way i think i'll still be able to. there are plenty of players who'll be blooded this season.
 
Sherman41 said:
You get what you pay for with Lloyd. He rarely disappoints.

Yes he is expensive, but I’d rather be trying to find the money later in the year for a Stewart or Laird than a Lloyd.

He may drop in price, but so may the others. It’s much for a muchness i feel.
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whitfield and stewart both had an injury game which significantly lowered each ones starting price, and laird had a role change which lent itself to far greater scoring which if he is still gonna play in midfield next season then he is a steal for that price. luke mcdonald is similar to laird, if hes playing the same role he could be lloyd 2.0.

essentially a lot of these guys are underpriced imo by around 40k or so at least based on how they showed they can score last season. meanwhile lloyd is about 40k overs. if it fits your team balance then definitely get lloyd but hes not a lock imo. its tough not having him but he tends to get better over the season and not necessarily be going berserk right from the get go so i reckon you can definitely do fine getting him in say round 6-8.

if there weren't so many great value options then lloyd would be a complete no brainer but whilst hes still one of the first i'd pick hes not a no brainer for me.
 
MagicGnome97 said:
whitfield and stewart both had an injury game which significantly lowered each ones starting price, and laird had a role change which lent itself to far greater scoring which if he is still gonna play in midfield next season then he is a steal for that price. luke mcdonald is similar to laird, if hes playing the same role he could be lloyd 2.0.

essentially a lot of these guys are underpriced imo by around 40k or so at least based on how they showed they can score last season. meanwhile lloyd is about 40k overs. if it fits your team balance then definitely get lloyd but hes not a lock imo. its tough not having him but he tends to get better over the season and not necessarily be going berserk right from the get go so i reckon you can definitely do fine getting him in say round 6-8.

if there weren't so many great value options then lloyd would be a complete no brainer but whilst hes still one of the first i'd pick hes not a no brainer for me.
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I currently have Lloyd, Whitfield and McDonald.

I’ll get Laird and Stewart later on.
 
Sherman41 said:
I currently have Lloyd, Whitfield and McDonald.

I’ll get Laird and Stewart later on.
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sounds good to me, im just saying if that 90k gap between lloyd and laird for example makes your team a lot better somewhere else/all round then its worth strongly considering imo because lloyd is priced at peak scoring output and laird may well be priced much closer to his floor if hes gonna play midfield again where he averaged almost 120 last season when he played there i believe. def/mid is handy too.

i tend to base a decent amount of my team selection on preseason form too so depending on this things could change. lloyd is in my top 4 premo defenders to pick, the problem is that for team balance i'm probably only gonna start with 3 unless i ditch that 3rd forward in dunkley to start 4 premo defenders.
 
ArdentEagle said:
Okay...Just discovered I could do my team this morning.
Got my rocks off by spending all day ******* around with it...Like usual, I'll end up changing it last second when I should just stick to my guns.

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