List Mgmt. 2021 Young Talent Time

[Joao]

I feel like our mid and wings will sort themselves out with the likes of Chapman, Young, Western and Valente all showing they might have what it takes to make the move forward.

They might, but you wouldn't bet Cerra on that I don't think.

I think it is fairly simple, if Cerra forces the move, load up on the KPFs this year. Otherwise, we should have access to at least 1 in the first round and maybe a couple more in the later rounds.

Over the next two years, we should have more looks at it as well if required.

 

[Taylor]

If we lost Cerra to Hawthorn and secured pick #2 in that exchange we might have an opportunity if Josh Kelly leaves GWS. They will hold pick #3, #9 and #10

So we could swap our pick #2 for #9 and #10

Could we pick up an elite midfielder and two talls with picks #8, #9 and #10?

Better than we could with #2 and #8?

 

[Polo342]

If we lost Cerra to Hawthorn and secured pick #2 in that exchange we might have an opportunity if Josh Kelly leaves GWS. They will hold pick #3, #9 and #10

So we could swap our pick #2 for #9 and #10

Could we pick up an elite midfielder and two talls with picks #8, #9 and #10?

Better than we could with #2 and #8?

How awesome this would be seriously!!! Thats the way to build a good list. Essendon took 3 Top 10 picks last year and look at them!!

 

[Joao]

How awesome this would be seriously!!! Thats the way to build a good list. Essendon took 3 Top 10 picks last year and look at them!!

I'm relatively easy either way but Essendon aren't doing relatively well because of the top 10 picks. They still have a nucleus of players around the same age as ours. When you remember that Daniher and Fantasia barely played in the last couple of years and they were supposed to be final contenders in that time it suddenly doesn't look as good.

 

[ignoramus]

How awesome this would be seriously!!! Thats the way to build a good list. Essendon took 3 Top 10 picks last year and look at them!!

And Freo took three top 10 picks in 2019

 

[Polo342]

And Freo took three top 10 picks in 2019

We did and we look so much better for it. If we could do this again but get Key Position Players then it would set us up for 10 years if we nailed the picks. In particular if they are the WA Boys.

 

[Dockeroo]

I would want more that just pick 9 & 10 in exchange for pick 2... any club looking for that kind of top end pick would need to be willing to pay up hard..

 

[nurries]

I would want more that just pick 9 & 10 in exchange for pick 2... any club looking for that kind of top end pick would need to be willing to pay up hard..

Hard choice. a ready made super mid (Horne, Daicos, Sonsie) or maybe 2 forwards that may make it but are our need. Id normally take the mid everday and pick up a forward with our other pick, but with all our injuries we might still be able to snag Johnson with one of those picks (our own one?) as he projects pretty highly but maybe not so on a national level.

 

[Dale147]

PSA footy: Richard Farmer, Elijah Hewett, Jack Gouge, Adam De Masi and more impress in round six

Jordan McArdleThe West Australian
Mon, 31 May 2021 4:02PMComments
Jordan McArdle

Richard Farmer was among Hale’s best. Credit: Justin Benson-Cooper/The West Australian

Elijah Hewett (Scotch)
The State 17s squad member went into beast mode against Wesley College as Scotch continue their undefeated start to the season.
The prolific midfielder booted five goals from 28 disposals in one of the biggest individual performances of the PSA season to date.
Hewett has been a regular in his new school’s best since crossing from Guildford Grammar during the off-season.
Jack Gouge (Wesley)
Gouge held up his end of the bargain on a tough day for Wesley against the reigning Alcock Cup champs.
The Subiaco colts premiership player was strong in the clearances, found a lot of the footy and even kicked a goal of his own.
His disposal efficiency was down a touch in the wet but there was no questioning Gouge’s work rate.
Richard Farmer (Hale)
It was fitting that in the PSA’s version of Sir Doug Nicholls round that one of the competition’s brightest Indigenous talents starred.
Farmer, the nephew of Fremantle and Melbourne great Jeff, is putting together some impressive performances at PSA and WAFL colts levels so far this season.
He started as a livewire forward at Hale but has since been enjoying increased midfield minutes to show recruiters a different side of his game.
While it wasn’t a complete four-quarter performance, Farmer was once again among his school’s best in a comfortable victory over Trinity.
Adam De Masi (Trinity)
It’s hard to believe this kid is in Year 10.
De Masi, who made his first XVIII debut last year, has been one of Trinity’s most consistent performers this season.
He loves the contested footy and is so strong defensively in the engine room.
The State 17s squad member was his school’s leading possession winner with 26, including 15 contested, to go with eight clearances, eight tackles, five inside 50s and a goal.
Ben Parasaliti (Aquinas)
The 15-year-old forward lapped up the wet and wild conditions in an exciting four-goal display in Saturday’s win over Guildford.
Parasaliti is one of several Year 10 students taking their first XVIII opportunities with both hands this season, booting eight majors in his last three appearances.
He’s only small at 170cm but has got great skills and pace.
Oliver Zolnier-Owens (Guildford)
The Guildford captain was one of the shining lights in a losing cause against Aquinas.
Zolnier-Owens battled hard in the middle and moved well around the ground.
He amassed a team-high 25 possessions and six clearances to go with five tackles.

 

[Dale147]

Who impressed in round eight of WAFL colts: Angus Sheldrick, Luke Reilly, Thomas McGrath, Max Chipper and more

Jordan McArdleThe West Australian
Mon, 31 May 2021 1:47PMComments
Jordan McArdle

Claremont’s Angus Sheldrick was massive in the midfield. Credit: Jackson Flindell/The West Australian

Jacob van Rooyen (Claremont)
It wasn’t exactly the conditions for a key forward but that didn’t seem to matter to van Rooyen, who enjoyed his best game of the season.
Even reduced game time of 70 per cent on his way back from glandular fever couldn’t stop the first-round draft fancy being the most impactful forward on the ground.
The 18-year-old booted a team-high three majors spending most of his time at centre-half forward, other than a late stint in the engine room where he didn’t look out of place.
He racked up midfield-like numbers of 24 possessions, six marks and four inside 50s and used the ball so well in the trying weather.
Since returning from illness, van Rooyen has kicked six goals in two games on managed minutes.
Brady Hough (Peel Thunder)
Hough is putting together quite the debut season of WAFL colts and he bolts into draft calculations.
The Harvey-Brunswick-Leschenault product was one of the stars of the show as Peel caused an upset against reigning premiers Subiaco at Leederville Oval.
It was a well-rounded display from the goal-kicking midfielder with 18 disposals, seven tackles and a goal.
He barely made a mistake by foot in ordinary conditions.
Angus Sheldrick (Claremont)
This kid was born to play in the wet.
Sheldrick was a bonus for Claremont colts coach Matt Angus due to his PSA school Christ Church’s bye.
He found so much off the footy, amassing a game-high 31 disposals and nine inside 50s, and used it well most of the time.
The tough left-footer also drifted for a couple of goals to cap off a brilliant display.
Max Chipper (Swan Districts)
Another week, another 30-plus possession haul from Max Chipper.
Chipper had a massive say in the midfield as Swan Districts overcome a talented East Fremantle in a hard-fought encounter.
The hard-running on-baller had 33 disposals, 12 marks, five tackles and a pair of goals to help lift his team over the line by seven points.
Jye Amiss (East Perth)
Amiss was one of few shining lights on a rare disappointing day for East Perth.
The talented key forward kicked three of his team’s five majors to take his season tally to 20.
He moves so well for a player of his size, has a great set to hands and a deadly set shot.
Thomas McGrath (East Fremantle)
The 18-year-old defender had by far his best game at colts level against Swan Districts.
Lining up at full back, McGrath was sound defensively but also provided an offensive counterpunch.
McGrath was entrusted with the kick-in duties and used it well in tough conditions and is improving the one-on-one side of his game.
He’s come a long way since last year when he couldn’t break into Aquinas College’s first XVIII.
Luke Reilly (West Perth)
Reilly was one of the stand-outs in West Perth’s 75-point thrashing of Perth on Saturday.
The 172cm midfielder continued his purple patch with another big performance in the engine room.
He drove the ball well inside 50 and had plenty of score involvements, but also provided defensive pressure with some big tackles.
Blake Morris (Subiaco)
The usual defender was tried in a new role on the wing and did some good things.
He was one of Subiaco’s best in a rare poor game for the team.

 

[wayToGo_]

2021 ND - JVR, Williams/Lukic, Chipper, Motlop (NGA), Cat B - Bartlett (NGA), Rookie - Pickett

2022 ND - Tsatas/Hagan, Brown/Hewett, Bourne (NGA), McAdam (NGA), Draper (NGA)

2023 - Trade for Horne

Get it done Wallsy! (Ok maybe Tsatas is a bit unrealistic but the rest or you are dead to me).

 

[Dockeroo]

PSA footy: Richard Farmer, Elijah Hewett, Jack Gouge, Adam De Masi and more impress in round six

Jordan McArdleThe West Australian
Mon, 31 May 2021 4:02PMComments
Jordan McArdle

Richard Farmer was among Hale’s best. Credit: Justin Benson-Cooper/The West Australian

Elijah Hewett (Scotch)
The State 17s squad member went into beast mode against Wesley College as Scotch continue their undefeated start to the season.
The prolific midfielder booted five goals from 28 disposals in one of the biggest individual performances of the PSA season to date.
Hewett has been a regular in his new school’s best since crossing from Guildford Grammar during the off-season.
Jack Gouge (Wesley)
Gouge held up his end of the bargain on a tough day for Wesley against the reigning Alcock Cup champs.
The Subiaco colts premiership player was strong in the clearances, found a lot of the footy and even kicked a goal of his own.
His disposal efficiency was down a touch in the wet but there was no questioning Gouge’s work rate.
Richard Farmer (Hale)
It was fitting that in the PSA’s version of Sir Doug Nicholls round that one of the competition’s brightest Indigenous talents starred.
Farmer, the nephew of Fremantle and Melbourne great Jeff, is putting together some impressive performances at PSA and WAFL colts levels so far this season.
He started as a livewire forward at Hale but has since been enjoying increased midfield minutes to show recruiters a different side of his game.
While it wasn’t a complete four-quarter performance, Farmer was once again among his school’s best in a comfortable victory over Trinity.
Adam De Masi (Trinity)
It’s hard to believe this kid is in Year 10.
De Masi, who made his first XVIII debut last year, has been one of Trinity’s most consistent performers this season.
He loves the contested footy and is so strong defensively in the engine room.
The State 17s squad member was his school’s leading possession winner with 26, including 15 contested, to go with eight clearances, eight tackles, five inside 50s and a goal.
Ben Parasaliti (Aquinas)
The 15-year-old forward lapped up the wet and wild conditions in an exciting four-goal display in Saturday’s win over Guildford.
Parasaliti is one of several Year 10 students taking their first XVIII opportunities with both hands this season, booting eight majors in his last three appearances.
He’s only small at 170cm but has got great skills and pace.
Oliver Zolnier-Owens (Guildford)
The Guildford captain was one of the shining lights in a losing cause against Aquinas.
Zolnier-Owens battled hard in the middle and moved well around the ground.
He amassed a team-high 25 possessions and six clearances to go with five tackles.

What age is Richard Farmer? Draftable this season?

 

[wayToGo_]

What age is Richard Farmer? Draftable this season?

Pretty sure he is WC NGA

 

[Bastyy]

2021 ND - JVR, Williams/Lukic, Chipper, Motlop (NGA), Cat B - Bartlett (NGA), Rookie - Pickett

2022 ND - Tsatas/Hagan, Brown/Hewett, Bourne (NGA), McAdam (NGA), Draper (NGA)

2023 - Trade for Horne

Get it done Wallsy! (Ok maybe Tsatas is a bit unrealistic but the rest or you are dead to me).

Think if we want one of Tsatas/Hagan and Luke Brown next year we'll need 2 first round picks somehow. All 3 for me go top 15 at the very least.

 

[Dockeroo]

Think if we want one of Tsatas/Hagan and Luke Brown next year we'll need 2 first round picks somehow. All 3 for me go top 15 at the very least.

Who is Tsatas and Brown - are they west Aussies and who do they play for?

 

[wayToGo_]

Who is Tsatas and Brown - are they west Aussies and who do they play for?

Tsatas is Victorian and likely #1 pick in the 2022 draft.

Luke Brown is a 199cm 17yo forward/ruck from Claremont. (There was an article comparing him to Fyfe a while back)

 

[wayToGo_]

Think if we want one of Tsatas/Hagan and Luke Brown next year we'll need 2 first round picks somehow. All 3 for me go top 15 at the very least.

Yep to all of this... but no excuses Wallsy!

 

[Joao]

Yep to all of this... but no excuses Wallsy!

It's probably doable if we trade Fyfe, Andy, Ryan and Cez. If we do that this year, we'll also be in the mix for pick 1 organically.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

It's probably doable if we trade Fyfe, Andy, Ryan and Cez. If we do that this year, we'll also be in the mix for pick 1 organically.

Should make sure Mundy retires to really lock in that number 1 pick and lock in that dynasty

The only one that could stand in our way after that is Serong, might be best to trade him out just in case

 

[Bastyy]

Should make sure Mundy retires to really lock in that number 1 pick and lock in that dynasty

The only one that could stand in our way after that is Serong, might be best to trade him out just in case

Don't forget that Darcy bloke, his work in the ruck might be too good and could cost us pick 1

 

[Joao]

Don't forget that Darcy bloke, his work in the ruck might be too good and could cost us pick 1

Trade them all.

Imagine having like 10 first round picks? We'd win all the flags, just like Gold Coast.

 

[wayToGo_]

It's probably doable if we trade Fyfe, Andy, Ryan and Cez. If we do that this year, we'll also be in the mix for pick 1 organically.

Irrespective of getting pick #1 it does seem the smart move...

Fyfe - can't kick goals, poor defensively at stoppages, not a good leader, players hate him, questionable hair choices, may carry the team on his shoulders most games but that just means he's a high (shoulder) injury risk, fooling nobody with those selfless smothering attempts
Andy - stocks have gone up, cash in now. Maybe we could get a top 5 pick for him? Then we could draft someone like Andy (or Dow) with that pick!
Ryan - solid player but I really like draft picks where we would almost certainly (99%) get someone worse but "there's a chance" of getting a gun so pull the trigger now
Cez - Victorian so best to ignore all evidence to the contrary and assume he is definitely leaving anyway. Like Andy, we could cash in now and maybe even get the same pick we used to pick him up a few years back... that we could then use on a gun half back flanker. Noice!

Throw Serong, Darcy, Cox, Young, Sturt, Freddy in as well and we could get most of the top end draft picks this year! Woohoo! Then we could top up with all those mature age guns via next year's MSD and we'd be set.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Irrespective of getting pick #1 it does seem the smart move...

Fyfe - can't kick goals, poor defensively at stoppages, not a good leader, players hate him, questionable hair choices, may carry the team on his shoulders most games but that just means he's a high (shoulder) injury risk, fooling nobody with those selfless smothering attempts
Andy - stocks have gone up, cash in now. Maybe we could get a top 5 pick for him? Then we could draft someone like Andy (or Dow) with that pick!
Ryan - solid player but I really like draft picks where we would almost certainly (99%) get someone worse but "there's a chance" of getting a gun so pull the trigger now
Cez - Victorian so best to ignore all evidence to the contrary and assume he is definitely leaving anyway. Like Andy, we could cash in now and maybe even get the same pick we used to pick him up a few years back... that we could then use on a gun half back flanker. Noice!

Throw Serong, Darcy, Cox, Young, Sturt, Freddy in as well and we could get most of the top end draft picks this year! Woohoo! Then we could top up with all those mature age guns via next year's MSD and we'd be set.

Dont be ridiculous, Sturt will get us nothing since he's been injured, wait till he plays a year to get some value, THEN trade him

 

[Joao]

Irrespective of getting pick #1 it does seem the smart move...

Fyfe - can't kick goals, poor defensively at stoppages, not a good leader, players hate him, questionable hair choices, may carry the team on his shoulders most games but that just means he's a high (shoulder) injury risk, fooling nobody with those selfless smothering attempts
Andy - stocks have gone up, cash in now. Maybe we could get a top 5 pick for him? Then we could draft someone like Andy (or Dow) with that pick!
Ryan - solid player but I really like draft picks where we would almost certainly (99%) get someone worse but "there's a chance" of getting a gun so pull the trigger now
Cez - Victorian so best to ignore all evidence to the contrary and assume he is definitely leaving anyway. Like Andy, we could cash in now and maybe even get the same pick we used to pick him up a few years back... that we could then use on a gun half back flanker. Noice!

Throw Serong, Darcy, Cox, Young, Sturt, Freddy in as well and we could get most of the top end draft picks this year! Woohoo! Then we could top up with all those mature age guns via next year's MSD and we'd be set.

You didn't need the hard sell on Fyfe, I'd trade him for the haircuts alone.

 

[wayToGo_]

Dont be ridiculous, Sturt will get us nothing since he's been injured, wait till he plays a year to get some value, THEN trade him

Possible but if you've been following the injury thread quite a few people have him at the salvage yard alongside Pearce, Hamling, Valente and Hill.

I should have clarified I meant divide him up as spare parts for sale. Those big hands of his would surely attract a late 4th rounder from someone?