List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft & Rookie Draft

[Aphrodite]

 

[bigblueboy]

Looking at List and Contract Status thread, is there anything in that it looks like 17 players are OOC next year...? Is it a sign...?

Yes, it’s a sign our most recent list contract management has been very good.
A large portion of those out of contract have not performed at best 22 levels or you would argue have been overpaid based on output are coming to end of contracts. Players in this group will be moved on or get new contracts based on output - not reputation.
We’ve locked in the most important pieces to long term deals.
The exceptions are Docherty (will be straightforward contract renewal) Williams (overpaid and underperforming) Martin (was heavily front loaded - now getting paid appropriately) and TDK (our most pressing list management issue).

 

[BlueJet]

Both.

How many levels has Hollands played at? The better TAC Cup players don’t necessarily go on to become gun AFL players - look at Dow.

I’m saying if we believe he will be available at a later selection then we’d be best served trading back and adding another early pick. Similar to Kemp in his draft year.

To date Hollands has probably shown more than those mentioned around the mark and (IMO) there's more surety around him settling into a position at the next level, whilst admittedly not the sexy, x-factor pick that some are after, there's definite value to a consistent, two way running balanced mid, even if he's seen as being meat & potatoes/vanilla.
He may not be the preferred option, (personally, I'd rather Hayes) but in no way is it a waste.

 

[Sheephead]

Just a conversation piece.
I think a lot of people are really underselling the depth of this draft.
Some Victorian players outside the Top 10-12 (so disregard Hollands for the moment) that I think could end up on lists and be solid players.

‘Jefferson
Hayes
George
Teal
‘Szybkowski
Hustwaite
Weddle
Van Es
Konstanty
Burgiel
Long
Vickery
McMullin
Knobel
Penny

 

[JuddgementDay]

Just a conversation piece.
I think a lot of people are really underselling the depth of this draft.
Some Victorian players outside the Top 10-12 (so disregard Hollands for the moment) that I think could end up on lists and be solid players.

‘Jefferson
Hayes
George
Teal
‘Szybkowski
Hustwaite
Weddle
Van Es
Konstanty
Burgiel
Long
Vickery
McMullin
Knobel
Penny

You can easily see why Austin wants another pick in the top 30, preferably another teen pick

 

[Sheephead]

Just a conversation piece.
I think a lot of people are really underselling the depth of this draft.
Some Victorian players outside the Top 10-12 (so disregard Hollands for the moment) that I think could end up on lists and be solid players.

‘Jefferson
Hayes
George
Teal
‘Szybkowski
Hustwaite
Weddle
Van Es
Konstanty
Burgiel
Long
Vickery
McMullin
Knobel
Penny

…and I missed that Harvey Gallagher and there’s Clarke, Gruzewski, Harvey, Edmends, Dury, amongst others. Then there’s also a ton of WA, SA, Allies to choose from too. It’s a deeeeeeeeeeeeeep draft let’s be honest.

 

[bigblueboy]

…and I missed that Harvey Gallagher and there’s Clarke, Gruzewski, Harvey, Edmends, Dury, amongst others. Then there’s also a ton of WA, SA, Allies to choose from too. It’s a deeeeeeeeeeeeeep draft let’s be honest.

Hotton

 

[katmanblue]

Thinking about this some more:

• Confidence is an opinion about your abilities
• Self-esteem is an opinion about your worth
• Arrogance is an opinion about your worth compared to others

That's a great way of differentiating between the three.

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[Coops93]

Wouldn't mind 1 or 2 players with arrogance. Even the supposed negative kind.

The caveat being they have to be able to back it up, obviously.

 

[Arr0w]

Don't think Doull was arrogant, nor Hunter, would take a couple of them right now

 

[thylacine60]

Just a conversation piece.
I think a lot of people are really underselling the depth of this draft.
Some Victorian players outside the Top 10-12 (so disregard Hollands for the moment) that I think could end up on lists and be solid players.

‘Jefferson
Hayes
George
Teal
‘Szybkowski
Hustwaite
Weddle
Van Es
Konstanty
Burgiel
Long
Vickery
McMullin
Knobel
Penny

looks like penny has dropped.....

 

[Bletch]

Don't think Doull was arrogant, nor Hunter, would take a couple of them right now

Dom had it in spades though, and I'd love one of him.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Saw an interview with Hollands the other day where they asked him which clubs have shown the most interest. He mentioned he has spoken the most to carlton and the bulldogs. Not surprising given his draft range but still interesting.

 

[Matty411]

Just like Dow at 3, it seems like Hollands at 11 is firming - but for some chaos on the night in the form of a Suns return to the top 10 (second pick) or a huge slider.

 

[Juice030103]

Don't think Doull was arrogant, nor Hunter, would take a couple of them right now

True but boustow and the dominator were as arrogant as they come from the same era and I think we would all love some of that.


All about having a healthy balance

 

[Revenant1965]

Yes, it’s a sign our most recent list contract management has been very good.
A large portion of those out of contract have not performed at best 22 levels or you would argue have been overpaid based on output are coming to end of contracts. Players in this group will be moved on or get new contracts based on output - not reputation.
We’ve locked in the most important pieces to long term deals.
The exceptions are Docherty (will be straightforward contract renewal) Williams (overpaid and underperforming) Martin (was heavily front loaded - now getting paid appropriately) and TDK (our most pressing list management issue).

This is a great insight (which I also randomly but not so concisely think about), but I must admit I posted my comment firmly tongue in cheek... I'm a bit like a little kid banging the table, constantly saying, "Seventeen, seventeen, seventeen." And, as an aside, I want new players (as all players) to have that confidence (self-confidence, whatever) to think how they can bring us 17 too...

 

[Stamos]

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[The Return of the Paf]

Just like Dow at 3, it seems like Hollands at 11 is firming - but for some chaos on the night in the form of a Suns return to the top 10 (second pick) or a huge slider.

I hope that's not an omen.

 

[Yubby]

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Can somebody archive this?

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[AT97]

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Interested in Seth Campbell according to that report

 

[Arr0w]

Interested in Seth Campbell according to that report

 

[Arr0w]

Interesting sponsor, more Seth Campbell

 

[bluesDeluxe]

And Anderson.

Edmends, Anderson and McMullin are sleepers

…and I missed that Harvey Gallagher and there’s Clarke, Gruzewski, Harvey, Edmends, Dury, amongst others. Then there’s also a ton of WA, SA, Allies to choose from too. It’s a deeeeeeeeeeeeeep draft let’s be honest.

 

[Jeremias]

I have Campbell hovering around my top 40.

From what I've seen he's quick but very clean and seems to be able to keep himself involved. Strong aerially for a smaller type.

Think there will be better options available at our current 2nd but would certainly have a look late.

 

[bigblueboy]

This is a great insight (which I also randomly but not so concisely think about), but I must admit I posted my comment firmly tongue in cheek... I'm a bit like a little kid banging the table, constantly saying, "Seventeen, seventeen, seventeen." And, as an aside, I want new players (as all players) to have that confidence (self-confidence, whatever) to think how they can bring us 17 too...

I’m not nearly smart enough to pick up on nuanced humour - but all power to you, I’m definitely keen on 17 also!!

 

[katmanblue]

I’m not nearly smart enough to pick up on nuanced humour - but all power to you, I’m definitely keen on 17 also!!

All hail Brodie Kemp. Number 17.

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