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List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft & Rookie Draft
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Personally don't see why we'd trade out our future 2nd when we're already a future pick down from the Acres trade.
Wouldn't it make more sense to do pick 10 + 42 (Essendon pick for Dow?) + 49 for picks 15 + 19 (GWS)?
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Two picks in the teens, Hayes and Hotton
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Would make more sense for us.
Not sure if it does for GWS. Nor if we're getting #42.
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If we are looking to trade up, dare I dream of Tsatas
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That's my thinking their looking at
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As the trades pan out it's looking interesting in regard to moving up the order for Humphrey. I'd be expecting things to look like this by the end of trade period.
Brisbane - Will Ashcroft
North Melbourne - Aaron Cadman
North Melbourne - George Wardlaw
GWS - Harry Sheezel
Essendon - Elijah Tsatas
Gold Coast - Bailey Humphrey
Hawthorn - Cam Mackenzie
Geelong - Jhye Clark
West Coast - Jedd Busslinger
St Kilda - Matthew Jefferson
Carlton - Mattaes Philippou
Reckon it comes down to Gold Coasts pick if we can get him or not. If they don't take him and opt for a Mackenzie/Clark instead I can see Hawthorn, Geelong or West Coast being options to trade up with. West Coast are after their local talent which are expected to go around that 10-15 mark and Hawthorn are in need of midfielders more than anything. Geelong are desperate for Clark which would mean in the case that he's taken before their pick we may make a play to go 10 + some of our 2nd/3rd rounders to get up to 7.
Will be very interesting to see who goes in that 5-8 range and see if Austin tries to make a move before the night of the draft. Would be very risky with the chance he doesn't make it past GC
If Gold coast don't select him I think the draft looks more like this -
Brisbane - Will Ashcroft
North Melbourne - Aaron Cadman
North Melbourne - George Wardlaw
GWS - Harry Sheezel
Essendon - Elijah Tsatas
Gold coast - Cam Mackenzie
Hawthorn - Jhye Clark
Carlton - Bailey Humphrey
West Coast - Jedd Busslinger
St Kilda - Matthew Jefferson
Geelong - Mattaes Philippou
Brisbane - Will Ashcroft
North Melbourne - Aaron Cadman
North Melbourne - George Wardlaw
GWS - Harry Sheezel
Essendon - Elijah Tsatas
Gold Coast - Bailey Humphrey
Hawthorn - Cam Mackenzie
Geelong - Jhye Clark
West Coast - Jedd Busslinger
St Kilda - Matthew Jefferson
Carlton - Mattaes Philippou
Reckon it comes down to Gold Coasts pick if we can get him or not. If they don't take him and opt for a Mackenzie/Clark instead I can see Hawthorn, Geelong or West Coast being options to trade up with. West Coast are after their local talent which are expected to go around that 10-15 mark and Hawthorn are in need of midfielders more than anything. Geelong are desperate for Clark which would mean in the case that he's taken before their pick we may make a play to go 10 + some of our 2nd/3rd rounders to get up to 7.
Will be very interesting to see who goes in that 5-8 range and see if Austin tries to make a move before the night of the draft. Would be very risky with the chance he doesn't make it past GC
If Gold coast don't select him I think the draft looks more like this -
Brisbane - Will Ashcroft
North Melbourne - Aaron Cadman
North Melbourne - George Wardlaw
GWS - Harry Sheezel
Essendon - Elijah Tsatas
Gold coast - Cam Mackenzie
Hawthorn - Jhye Clark
Carlton - Bailey Humphrey
West Coast - Jedd Busslinger
St Kilda - Matthew Jefferson
Geelong - Mattaes Philippou
I must of missed it, but has there been a rumour linking us to Humphrey?
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Royal Blues mentioned it in the Bluemour thread earlier but honestly, I'm not sure if he's ITK or high on Mushrooms and rhymes these days.
Did have a friend from Champion Data mention that we're keen on him the other day too but I wouldn't call him a strong source of ITK info in regard to trades etc but he does get a fair bit of info in regard to the draft given he works all the NAB league games and speaks with a fair few recruiters etc in his line of work.
More just spit balling and inferring than anything. I'm torn either way, he's probably the biggest boom or bust pick in the draft and has a lot to tidy up about his game.
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I actually don't mind a boom-or-bust pick at this point in our list build. Sucks that we torched a few early picks on guys like Dow, SPS and Stocker, but I think we've got a better development system and a better coaching structure in place now, to the level that a Bailey Humphrey would come in and be given the time and resources required to get the most out of him.
You can bring in "safe" meat and potato options like Newman, Hewett, Acres etc. via trade without investing much, but a game-changer is always gonna cost you a lot more at the trade table than at the draft.
Could be someone else or we're seeing who's willing to play along for our pick
Boom or bust - GEORGE.
Busslinger reads the play very well and much earlier than most which is why he's such a good interceptor. Unfortunately he's very slow. Not sure that having both Weitering & Busslinger as your two prime KPDs would be the wisest of pairings going forwards. Others may disagree and are entitled to their own view.
Hayes - Yes!!!
Phillipou - Maybe.....if he's grown another couple of cm then that changes the equation somewhat and makes him a prospect of interest as a potential 3rd tall/KPF. As it is, despite having Honey, Martin, Durdin, Owies & Motlop, the club went out of its way to retain Cunners for another year so I'm not sure another small/medium forward is in Austin's & Voss' thinking. JMO.
Humphrey - Why is it that as soon as someone says "beast" everyone takes their pants off and runs around in the nuddy and all common sense instantly disappears??? Do we really need another inside mid who doesn't have a tank and can't kick??? Pass. That said, I do like his competitiveness and his ability to use his body to hold his ground in a marking contest against much bigger opponents.
The thing I like most about him is that he's dual-sided and does get reasonable distance and direction off his non-preferred. The thing I question most about Hewett is that I don't think he provides a point of difference from Cripps, Kennedy, Cerra, Setters & George Hewett. Based upon the last month of the season I suspect we'll also see more of Doc in the midfield here and there. He's no quicker or any better two-way runner than those previously mentioned so I'm not sure we wouldn't be wasting a pick here. I think there are other prospects who offer more that could fill gaps in our list.
Well if you're going to go down this path then get someone who has some genuine weapons, some X-factor and will give us something we don't already have, but definitely need. Cowan could be that player. Is he a reach??? Yes, but.....
I do like your thinking here.
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Busslinger reads the play very well and much earlier than most which is why he's such a good interceptor. Unfortunately he's very slow. Not sure that having both Weitering & Busslinger as your two prime KPDs would be the wisest of pairings going forwards. Others may disagree and are entitled to their own view.
Hayes - Yes!!!
Phillipou - Maybe.....if he's grown another couple of cm then that changes the equation somewhat and makes him a prospect of interest as a potential 3rd tall/KPF. As it is, despite having Honey, Martin, Durdin, Owies & Motlop, the club went out of its way to retain Cunners for another year so I'm not sure another small/medium forward is in Austin's & Voss' thinking. JMO.
Humphrey - Why is it that as soon as someone says "beast" everyone takes their pants off and runs around in the nuddy and all common sense instantly disappears??? Do we really need another inside mid who doesn't have a tank and can't kick??? Pass. That said, I do like his competitiveness and his ability to use his body to hold his ground in a marking contest against much bigger opponents.
The thing I like most about him is that he's dual-sided and does get reasonable distance and direction off his non-preferred. The thing I question most about Hewett is that I don't think he provides a point of difference from Cripps, Kennedy, Cerra, Setters & George Hewett. Based upon the last month of the season I suspect we'll also see more of Doc in the midfield here and there. He's no quicker or any better two-way runner than those previously mentioned so I'm not sure we wouldn't be wasting a pick here. I think there are other prospects who offer more that could fill gaps in our list.
Well if you're going to go down this path then get someone who has some genuine weapons, some X-factor and will give us something we don't already have, but definitely need. Cowan could be that player. Is he a reach??? Yes, but.....
I do like your thinking here.
Would take Hayes over Busslinger solely for the fact he's Victorian, and removes any go home factor that would come with Busslinger, and I'd be surprised if WC dont take him with their first pick anyway.
Busslinger is an elite reader and user of the pill. Playing league, he still dominated. Him or Hayes would be a great pick up at our 1st
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Busslinger reads the play very well and much earlier than most which is why he's such a good interceptor. Unfortunately he's very slow. Not sure that having both Weitering & Busslinger as your two prime KPDs would be the wisest of pairings going forwards. Others may disagree and are entitled to their own view.
Hayes - Yes!!!
Phillipou - Maybe.....if he's grown another couple of cm then that changes the equation somewhat and makes him a prospect of interest as a potential 3rd tall/KPF. As it is, despite having Honey, Martin, Durdin, Owies & Motlop, the club went out of its way to retain Cunners for another year so I'm not sure another small/medium forward is in Austin's & Voss' thinking. JMO.
Humphrey - Why is it that as soon as someone says "beast" everyone takes their pants off and runs around in the nuddy and all common sense instantly disappears??? Do we really need another inside mid who doesn't have a tank and can't kick??? Pass. That said, I do like his competitiveness and his ability to use his body to hold his ground in a marking contest against much bigger opponents.
The thing I like most about him is that he's dual-sided and does get reasonable distance and direction off his non-preferred. The thing I question most about Hewett is that I don't think he provides a point of difference from Cripps, Kennedy, Cerra, Setters & George Hewett. Based upon the last month of the season I suspect we'll also see more of Doc in the midfield here and there. He's no quicker or any better two-way runner than those previously mentioned so I'm not sure we wouldn't be wasting a pick here. I think there are other prospects who offer more that could fill gaps in our list.
Well if you're going to go down this path then get someone who has some genuine weapons, some X-factor and will give us something we don't already have, but definitely need. Cowan could be that player. Is he a reach??? Yes, but.....
I do like your thinking here.
Cheers for the write ups, I know you have mentioned Cowan but he looks a possibility of being available at our second picks, other than Hayes, who do you like at 10?
I don't take in to consideration the "go-home factor". If the environment is good enough people will stay. None of Cripps, Martin, Fisher, McGovern, Carroll, C.Durdin or Motlop have requested to go home. SPS would seem to be the outlier.
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I am on the Jefferson bandwagon. Will take a few years but I could see him playing alongside Charlie and H similar to the Hawks set up in 2013. Dangerous.
This not true! Busslinger played three league games disposals were 5, 9 and 5. A total of 6 marks, with 2 tackles in one game, with crickets in the others. 20 plus disposals in each of 4 colts games so levels were excellent.
His championship games were decent and earned All Aust U 18 selection. He is a good prospect, by no means a superstar. With two quality young KPD in our side and a decent backup in S.Durdin with the third tall/almost KPD types, it would be poor management to commit the last “top 10” pick we are likely to have for a long time on someone “excess” to requirements.
And what did his opponents do?
Not suggesting we "have to take" either with our 1st, but we shouldn't take needs based if we are reaching to do so
People seem to pigeon hole Young as only a defender when he can actually play anywhere down the spine, and or Gov can still be a damaging forward, thus taking a KPD wouldn't be a bad list management decision
Personally I would rather Hotton with our 1st ( based on other prospects not sliding), but Busslinger or Hayes wouldn't be poor picks, IMHO
I know you like the idea of using Young as a second ruck, but I am pretty sure our brains trust has him cemented into a key defensive post. With McGovern, Marchbank and Kemp, there is hardly room to “blood” a youngster in the foreseeable future. Similarly Pitto and TDK are our ruck coupling. There is plenty to like about Hayes, but has been kept away from accountable roles almost completely.. One glaring example had him “monstered” by 12cm shorter Underager Harley Reid in the goal square. Not definitive, but I don’t trust him enough as a defender to take him at our first.
Surely we are taking a hybrid mid type. I make no secret I like Phillipou and Hollands. Hotton caught my eye and in the game at the cattery, a standout career high, but lesser body of work last time out has me a bit more circumspect.
I struggle to see who we might want to trade up for. There are plenty of reasonable mid hybrid options around the mark. Does it mean we want Jefferson? Too early for generation next, with Harry and Charlie locked away, but the three of them are all athletic, and could conceivably coexist.
Harley Reid would have monstered any KPD in this draft, would be like playing any of Weitering, Andrews or Moore on Dusty
Most sides play a traditional 2nd ruck/forward, while we played Jsos as the backup after Pitto got injured
Prior to that, we had success with TDK and Pitto early on, so why wouldn't a TDK and Young combination work
As for Jefferson, I wouldn't be disappointed taking him. Needs 3 years to develop and could play as a KPF, with Charlie as a 3rd tall
But as stated earlier, if we are looking purely needs based at our range, guys like Hotton, Hewett would suit out list better as the have scoreboard impact, but most draftees should be viewed more in that 2-4 year period to have real team impact
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This is probably ambitious but if I was Austin and the recruiting team I’d be targeting Giants pick 3. They have 4 picks in the top 20 - 3,12,15,19 so I think we could come up with a package deal to get that pick. Then I’d select Sheezel 
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What would you give for pick 3?This is probably ambitious but if I was Austin and the recruiting team I’d be targeting Giants pick 3. They have 4 picks in the top 20 - 3,12,15,19 so I think we could come up with a package deal to get that pick. Then I’d select Sheezel
Unless we give a required player can see it happening...
If we rate this draft as much as we say we do, maybe
Carlton > GWS Pick 10, 28 & F2nd or F1st
Carlton < Picks 12, 15 & 19
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Would you do pick 10 and our future first for pick 3?
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