Preview 2022 draft prospects

[Gaspard]

I can't imagine anyone is contemplating any of these pick trades that remove all or most of our selections this year. We have signalled that we are going to pick at least 4 by delisting Murley. No point in this if we are giving up all of our picks. Or am I missing something?

 

[Quicky]

True, but I can't really see what it could be.

All I can think of is that there might be a player we're keen on and we're confident no other team wants to add him to the primary list but are interested in adding him as a rookie? I suppose there could be a mature ager in that boat - or one of these development talls? Unless there's a specific player in mind, he's been moved due to the very small difference between a late pick in the ND and a rookie draft selection.

We'll have someone like McCreery in mind is my bet. Someone other clubs won't punt on in the ND but will in the rookie.

 

[Quicky]

I think critical qualities I want to see in key forwards are aggression, competitiveness and consistent effort. I don't see much of that in Keeler. It'd be a gamble that he could develop that. He projects best case as a Finlayson or Westhoff imo, which would still be pretty handy if he got there.

 

[Quicky]

PieSource is saying we have had a couple of chats with Essendon about pick 4, anyone heard anything about this? Or is he full of it?
If that did happen, who would we pick?

I guess you need to say something to grab attention on twitter. The truth of it doesn't matter.

 

[KJpie]

How did that work out for us last time, no way!

You’re only ever a couple of injuries and some bad press away from a poor season. That would be a very poor decision.

Just chewing the Fat after midnight.
I'm to invested in this draft & would not sell the farm for pick 4

 

[SchuPie]

Just chewing theeat after midnight.
I'm to invested in this draft to sell the farm for pick 4

As long as we pick the right players
I’d rather 1 gun than a raft of players from this year and next that don’t make it
But I’m with you as well KJ, hoping we nail the picks we have (but the thought of pairing Tsatas w Naicos for 10 year…)

 

[Apex36]

I don't like this, if we don't rate him he should be told & cut

He’s contracted. It’s not fair on him to break that contract an not even give him the chance to prove himself in year 2.

 

[KJpie]

As long as we pick the right players
I’d rather 1 gun than a raft of players from this year and next that don’t make it
But I’m with you as well KJ, hoping we nail the picks we have (but the thought of pairing Tsatas w Naicos for 10 year…)

Yes, there's more chance of succeeding & it's a tough call either way because one gun is no garauntee even though I heavily rate the top end talent.
One only needs to look @ Ginni's draft year and the top 5 IIRC were stinkes & the the last 5 drafted (all drafts included) worked out very well for us.

 

[KJpie]

He’s contracted. It’s not fair on him to break that contract an not even give him the chance to prove himself in year 2.

Couldnt agree more & aware of that.
Never said I want Murley dilisted, I like him. There's was just confusion between myself & sr36 mostly on my part probably.
Thats why I wrote clearly on post #3951 "My hope is the club honors the remaining year for the kid & he surprises us all in 2023 after a big preseason".

 

[Kirby]

I think critical qualities I want to see in key forwards are aggression, competitiveness and consistent effort. I don't see much of that in Keeler. It'd be a gamble that he could develop that. He projects best case as a Finlayson or Westhoff imo, which would still be pretty handy if he got there.

Those issues he has (or question marks) are exactly why I believe that has next to no chance of being drafted by us.

We might rookie him if he doesn’t get selected in the main draft.

Our whole system under Fly is built on competitiveness, intent, effort etc.

 

[Mick F]

My Wang spy reports: “Such a terrific kid and can play! Perfect ingredients for any club! Humble kid from a humble family. He's a role model for so many in this town, especially the youth.”

 

[The Royal Sampler]

My man Isaac.
He looks indigenous..

Big unit

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Big unit but no definition yet. Long levers. Reminds me of Joe Daniher.

As I’ve stated previously, unless we have concerns about his desire/professionalism which are insurmountable, I think it would be a mistake not to select him.

You get that package without the laconic demeanour, and with more cut in his muscles, and all of a sudden he’s not in a draftable range for us because he’s top 5.

Think of it this way, we can land Keeler with a similar pick which got us McMahon or Poulter, and his ceiling is monstrous.

 

[KJpie]

My Wang spy reports: “Such a terrific kid and can play! Perfect ingredients for any club! Humble kid from a humble family. He's a role model for so many in this town, especially the youth.”

And his coach in Magpie Ben Reid will have a great idea on whether this 22 year old & 3x B&F winner at Wang is a genuine chance at AFL level.

 

[magpies42]

I think critical qualities I want to see in key forwards are aggression, competitiveness and consistent effort. I don't see much of that in Keeler. It'd be a gamble that he could develop that. He projects best case as a Finlayson or Westhoff imo, which would still be pretty handy if he got there.

Exactly my thoughts, and a Westhoff is not a premiership piece.we have enough role playing types

 

[KJpie]

I can't imagine anyone is contemplating any of these pick trades that remove all or most of our selections this year. We have signalled that we are going to pick at least 4 by delisting Murley. No point in this if we are giving up all of our picks. Or am I missing something?

There's also a number of clubs wanting to trade up and most not wanting to trade down at this point.
More likely trades are done on the day when certain players fall too far that a club rates & said club is willing to give up something meaningful to acquire that pick/ player.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

COLLINGWOOD

Picks: 16, 25, 27, 51

Ablett says: With the departure of former All-Australian ruckman Brodie Grundy

4

Brodie Grundy

Age

30

Ht

202cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.1

5star

HO

32.0

5star

D

16.4

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.0

5star

HO

34.6

5star

D

13.8

4star

K

5.2

2star

HB

8.6

5star

CL

2.6

5star

HO

20.6

5star

and promising young star Ollie Henry, the Pies needed to restock and that’s exactly what they did. Bringing in Tom Mitchell, Bobby Hill, Dan McStay and Billy Frampton

17

Billy Frampton

Age

27

Ht

201cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.1

2star

K

5.1

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

0.7

3star

MG

99.0

2star

D

8.5

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.5

3star

T

0.5

1star

MG

99.0

2star

D

9.2

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.0

3star

MG

107.0

2star

has only strengthened an already fast rising Craig McCrae-led team. Two top-25 picks will be the cherry on top. Draft Prediction: The Pies might look to add some height down back. Jedd Buslinger would be an ideal rookie to learn from one of the best in the business in Darcy Moore

30

Darcy Moore

Age

28

Ht

203cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.1

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

169.1

3star

D

13.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

0.7

1star

MG

182.0

3star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

87.4

2star

. Josh Weddle is another option. The 192cm defender tore the draft combine testing apart with top-10 finishes in four out of the five disciplines. His kicking depth is a real feature.

Jedd Busslinger could boost an already stout Collingwood defence. Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos

Darcy Moore

30

Darcy Moore

Age

28

Ht

203cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.1

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

169.1

3star

D

13.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

0.7

1star

MG

182.0

3star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

87.4

2star

. Picture: Quinn Rooney/Getty Images

 

[manicpie]

Exactly my thoughts, and a Westhoff is not a premiership piece.we have enough role playing types

The other option is that we load up on more midfielders and flankers, yay

 

[manicpie]

The way football is going, having undersized KPP just doesn't cut it anymore. Sydney and ourselves are proof of that. We are better off on taking 1 or 2 of Barnett, Keeler and lemmey than taking more undersized flankers. I wouldn't be opposed to a big bodied mid but unless we finish in the bottom half of the ladder we won't get any better options next year, no guts, no glory this draft Edit, you can add Scully to that

 

[KJpie]

COLLINGWOOD

Picks: 16, 25, 27, 51

Ablett says: With the departure of former All-Australian ruckman Brodie Grundy and promising young star Ollie Henry, the Pies needed to restock and that’s exactly what they did. Bringing in Tom Mitchell, Bobby Hill, Dan McStay and Billy Frampton has only strengthened an already fast rising Craig McCrae-led team. Two top-25 picks will be the cherry on top. Draft Prediction: The Pies might look to add some height down back. Jedd Buslinger would be an ideal rookie to learn from one of the best in the business in Darcy Moore. Josh Weddle is another option. The 192cm defender tore the draft combine testing apart with top-10 finishes in four out of the five disciplines. His kicking depth is a real feature.


Jedd Busslinger could boost an already stout Collingwood defence. Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos

Ablett knows his shit, those 2 would be awsome as a start

 

[The Royal Sampler]

The way football is going, having undersized KPP just doesn't cut it anymore. Sydney and ourselves are proof of that. We are better off on taking 1 or 2 of Barnett, Keeler and lemmey than taking more undersized flankers. I wouldn't be opposed to a big bodied mid but unless we finish in the bottom half of the ladder we won't get any better options next year, no guts, no glory this draft Edit, you can add Scully to that

16: Best available
25: Keeler
27: Barnett

Would be just about my ideal draft right now.

If we don’t take Barnett at 27, then best available and take Toby Murray or similar at 51.

 

[TradeDraft]

 

[manicpie]

16: Best available
25: Keeler
27: Barnett

Would be just about my ideal draft right now.

If we don’t take Barnett at 27, then best available and take Toby Murray or similar at 51.

Perfect

 

[KinderSmock]

What's PieSource going to do when Elon euthanises Larry the Bird?

 

[sr36]

16: Best available
25: Keeler
27: Barnett

Would be just about my ideal draft right now.

If we don’t take Barnett at 27, then best available and take Toby Murray or similar at 51.

I've decided who I want

Weddle, Barnett, Keeler and that Wang mature ager with our last pick.

I don't think we're picking Keeler though.

 

[KinderSmock]

Say we got pick 4, gave up 16, 25 and 27. That's a risk. But at 51, we could take a Lemmey or Joe Richards, then

In an ideal world, with our current hand, I'd be taking (it's realistic:

1. Lewis Hayes
2. Brayden George
3. Harry Lemmey
4. Joe Richards or Ethan Phillips.

Could potentially look at Billy Dowling as well.

Would rather we took Richards or Phillips than Murley.