Preview 2022 draft prospects

[Couch Coach]

Rumours from the WB board:

"Rumour is Geelong will take Busslinger even if Clark is available and many of their supporters seem to think it makes sense.

From what I've read looking at rumours, news sources and "inside info" etc. It could go something like this

Pick 1 - GWS - Cadman
Pick 2 - Brisbane (bid) - Ashcorft
Pick 3 - North - Sheezel
Pick 4 - North - Wardlaw/Tsatas
Pick 5 - Essendon - Tsatas/Wardlaw
Pick 6 - Gold Coast - Ginbey
Pick 7 - Hawthorn - Humphrey
Pick 8 - Geelong - Busslinger
Pick 9 - West Coast - Clark
Pick 10 - St Kilda - McKenzie
Pick 11 - Carlton - Hollands

• Pretty confident the top 5 will play out something like that, maybe with GWS bidding on Ashcorft instead. Seems consistent with a lot of sources
• Sounds like Gold Coast are after some big body mids and like Ginbey and Humphrey
• The West Coast list/recruiting dude said that if there are 2 very similar prospects they would favour the WA player over the interstate one. They may not have a WA choice and may have to go an interstate player at 9
• St Kilda have a good NGA system going after taking two last year and if McKenzie is available I think they will likely go and draft him after putting time and development into him
• Carlton have apparently met with Hollands a few times. Rumour they also like Hayes
• Jefferson may still go top 10, but some clubs question if he has enough mongrel. Apparently a very nice guy, maybe a bit too nice and gets pushed off the ball a bit too easily
• Phillipou has supposed character issues, but nobody knows what they are so I'm guessing it's a complete load of crap. Maybe there's some truth to it and he slides down the order though. Wishful thinking I know."

 

[KinderSmock]

There are two key questions for us:

Round 1) Hayes, Hustwaite, Hotton or an explosive mid.
Round 2) Which South Australian ruck/forward for our second selection

 

[KinderSmock]

Rumours from the WB board:

"Rumour is Geelong will take Busslinger even if Clark is available and many of their supporters seem to think it makes sense.

From what I've read looking at rumours, news sources and "inside info" etc. It could go something like this

Pick 1 - GWS - Cadman
Pick 2 - Brisbane (bid) - Ashcorft
Pick 3 - North - Sheezel
Pick 4 - North - Wardlaw/Tsatas
Pick 5 - Essendon - Tsatas/Wardlaw
Pick 6 - Gold Coast - Ginbey
Pick 7 - Hawthorn - Humphrey
Pick 8 - Geelong - Busslinger
Pick 9 - West Coast - Clark
Pick 10 - St Kilda - McKenzie
Pick 11 - Carlton - Hollands

• Pretty confident the top 5 will play out something like that, maybe with GWS bidding on Ashcorft instead. Seems consistent with a lot of sources
• Sounds like Gold Coast are after some big body mids and like Ginbey and Humphrey
• The West Coast list/recruiting dude said that if there are 2 very similar prospects they would favour the WA player over the interstate one. They may not have a WA choice and may have to go an interstate player at 9
• St Kilda have a good NGA system going after taking two last year and if McKenzie is available I think they will likely go and draft him after putting time and development into him
• Carlton have apparently met with Hollands a few times. Rumour they also like Hayes
• Jefferson may still go top 10, but some clubs question if he has enough mongrel. Apparently a very nice guy, maybe a bit too nice and gets pushed off the ball a bit too easily
• Phillipou has supposed character issues, but nobody knows what they are so I'm guessing it's a complete load of crap. Maybe there's some truth to it and he slides down the order though. Wishful thinking I know

Interesting rumours. I have some scouting mail that I have sourced myself and they support your findings which are very useful!

• Busslinger rumour is new, although when I was crafting a phantom draft weeks ago, I had him at that mark. He's a KPP and Geelong would be eager to lure in a young backman. They'll have done their homework on his go home prospects. If Clark hates his new side, they can always target him in 2024.
• Your top five seems accurate. GWS will take Cadman. It's whether they bid on Ashcroft or not. For me, I hope they bid because the Lions need to pay a fair price for top tier talent.
• Phillipou said, in an interview with Fox, he'd take himself as the number one selection. Not the worst crime but could indicate poor, self-centred character. If he's available, then I don't see why we shouldn't take him. Character is turning into a very important selection criterion as clubs don't want idiotic kids who do a De Goey on holiday in Bali. Whether or not JDG did anything wrong is up for debate, but the point is he still brought unwanted, media attention that no other player managed to whilst on holidays there.
• Carlton take Hollands or Hayes - I've heard both rumours.
• It makes sense for St Kilda to take the kid they've developed - he's in their system.

 

[Jen2310]

Olli.. -- what son? What is this? lol

When Collingwood defeated Carlton on the final day of the 2022 home and away season and cruelly denied the Blues a September berth, Olli Hotton didn’t know how to feel.

Hotton, a potential first-round draftee from the Sandringham Dragons, is the son of Trent Hotton, who played 17 games for the Magpies in the ‘90s and 61 games for the Blues in the early 2000s.

Hotton describes his household footy fan vibe as a “family feud”. His dad and brother Taj support Carlton, but he barracks for Collingwood – although Hotton concedes he’s “55 per cent Collingwood and 45 per cent Carlton because I find myself just barracking for Carlton half the time”.
“I’m almost 50-50, but when they play each other I give the slight edge to Collingwood,” Hotton told foxfooty.com.au. “So that Round 23 was a very tough day for me.

“I didn‘t really know who to go for because I wanted to see Carlton in the finals, but I wanted us top four.

“When the final siren sounded, I couldn’t decide if I was happy or sad.”

Come draft night next month, there’s a sneaky chance Hotton could add to his black and white apparel collection. Collingwood holds Pick 16 – which will fall by one, possibly two spots after father-son and academy bids – and for many recruiters, that’s an appropriate draft range for Hotton.

Cam MacKenzie supports Hawks

Wardlaw - Essendon
Jaspa Flectcher - Lions
Ashcroft - Geelong
Humphrey - Geelong

Jhye Clark, the Geelong Falcons captain, has been heavily linked to the Cats, who now hold Pick 7 in this year’s draft thanks to the Jack Bowes

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Jack Bowes

Age

27

Ht

189cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.5

4star

MG

318.1

4star

D

18.0

4star

K

11.8

5star

HB

6.3

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

318.1

4star

D

11.6

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.4

4star

salary dump trade.

But Clark doesn’t support the Cats.

“Pa and Dad were always mad Collingwood supporters, so you just got born into it. I probably would’ve been kicked out if I didn’t go for Collingwood,” Clark told foxfooty.com.au.

“They definitely exceeded my expectations this year. With such a young list and after finishing so low on the ladder last year, I think we‘ve had a great year. They should be very proud playing in the finals, let alone just getting all those wins on the board.”

The cheeky ‘threat’ Clark received from his family is something a few other draftees – and many other footy fans around the country – can empathise with.

Cowan - Carlton
Sheezel - hawthorn
Lemmey - Crows? But his household was split between crows/port
Hustwaite - Saints -- even though campbell has always been a pies man and his other brother -- richmond.
Tsatas & Cadman - Richmond
Phillipou - Port
Hewett - Neuetal. Supports players not a team. Weirdo lol

We asked 16 draft prospects which AFL teams they support. Some could ultimately land at their favourite club

We asked 16 draft prospects which AFL teams they support. Some could land at their favourite club

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[SchuPie]

Carlton take Hollands

Would ruin my night, week, month….

 

[Wearmouth]

Hewett is a stone cold killer. The kid is a Bull and exactly what we need.

Best response from the lot of them. Calculated. Doesn’t insult anyone and will work making it no matter where he goes.

There’s a future captain right there.


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[KinderSmock]

I'm surprised we don't try and coerce more players with the childhood team line. And draft kids who went for side as well. If they already have a connection Collingwood, form another with them in their early career, they are far more likely to remain loyal.

 

[KinderSmock]

Hewett is a stone cold killer. The kid is a Bull and exactly what we need.

Best response from the lot of them. Calculated. Doesn’t insult anyone and will work making it no matter where he goes.

There’s a future captain right there.


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He could be available in the second round. Would be a good pickup.

 

[Kramer]

I know absolutely nothing, but I want:

1. Barnett
2. Keeler
3. The forward who has done his ACL - can't remember his name
4. Lemmey or Scully late.

wouldnt it be great if dekka announced him like that on draft night!

 

[Bianconeri]

I'm starting to beleive Scodog10 is on money that we'll overlook the talls in the draft. Down back we have Moore, Howe, Murphy, Frampton, Dean and Kelly which is 6 players for 3 positions. Up Forward we have Mihocek, Mcstay, Johnson and Kreuger 4 players for 2 positions and in the ruck its sounds like were going to add mature age player with gives us Cox, Cameron, Begg and the added player which is 4 players for 2 positions. Our list will start to get too top haevy if we add any more KPP.

I'd have liked to delist Kelly, move Begg down back and grab someone like Keeler to develop as a ruck/fwd in the VFL but that's not viable now. I think given our delistings in Poulter, McMahon and Murley (re rookie) it seems like we don't want to hold onto to too many project players that are a few years away from being AFL ready. Since it looks like we're commiting to Begg as a project ruck/fwd doubt we'll add others through the draft.

 

[Mick F]

He could be available in the second round. Would be a good pickup.

Eagles likely to take him at 22

 

[Mick F]

I'm starting to beleive Scodog10 is on money that we'll overlook the talls in the draft. Down back we have Moore, Howe, Murphy, Frampton, Dean and Kelly which is 6 players for 3 positions. Up Forward we have Mihocek, Mcstay, Johnson and Kreuger 4 players for 2 positions and in the ruck its sounds like were going to add mature age player with gives us Cox, Cameron, Begg and the added player which is 4 players for 2 positions. Our list will start to get too top haevy if we add any more KPP.

I'd have liked to delist Kelly, move Begg down back and grab someone like Keeler to develop as a ruck/fwd in the VFL but that's not viable now. I think given our delistings in Poulter, McMahon and Murley (re rookie) it seems like we don't want to hold onto to too many project players that are a few years away from being AFL ready. Since it looks like we're commiting to Begg as a project ruck/fwd doubt we'll add others through the draft.

We have half a midfield. Half a forward line. Four of our best players are approaching retirement.

We have recruited young midfielders. We now need to recruit some young quality KPPs. We then need to develop them over the next 2/3 years.

Depending on who or who doesn’t fall off a cliff, who develops, we shall recruit quality through FAs. Hopefully that will make us competitive in 2025.

 

[TheVillageIdiot7]

This might be a bit cheeky and highly unlikely.....

but P4L is onto something by bidding on Davey with our first pick.

I was commenting in another thread how we can get our hands on dons 22...
(and i would prefer keep a list spot to see who falls through as well as get back into next year for trade capital).

So something like:

Bid on Davey.
Then trade dons 27+51 for 22 + 54.
then after they match with 27, trade 25 for their 2nd next year.

Moves us up to 22.
Gets us back into next year and gives the dons a better pick after matching Davey.

This would then require us to upgrade Gini off the rookie as well to take the min senior list.
Either that, or just use 54 instead on the 'slider' that would have been rookie listed anyway.

Like i said, highly, highly, highly unlikely as too many moving parts.
but would be interesting to see this play out.....albeit we'd have to deal with dodoro!

 

[eDPS]

but P4L is onto something by bidding on Davey with our first pick.

No he is just an arseh*le who doesn’t want me to have fun!

 

[Bianconeri]

We have half a midfield. Half a forward line. Four of our best players are approaching retirement.

We have recruited young midfielders. We now need to recruit some young quality KPPs. We then need to develop them over the next 2/3 years.

Depending on who or who doesn’t fall off a cliff, who develops, we shall recruit quality through FAs. Hopefully that will make us competitive in 2025.

It doesn't sound like the KPPs in this draft are quality but more development crapshoots that I think we'll look to avoid.

 

[Pistol Night]

Phantom drafts are like ladder predicters

 

[manicpie]

It doesn't sound like the KPPs in this draft are quality but more development crapshoots that I think we'll look to avoid.

It's the opposite for me. We could end up with 2 KPP who we would be in no rush to hurry along as we have finally got some depth in KP's. If Hayes isn't there at our first pick, I'd happily take a punt on someone like Hewitt if he's still there

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

I'm starting to beleive Scodog10 is on money that we'll overlook the talls in the draft. Down back we have Moore, Howe, Murphy, Frampton, Dean and Kelly which is 6 players for 3 positions. Up Forward we have Mihocek, Mcstay, Johnson and Kreuger 4 players for 2 positions and in the ruck its sounds like were going to add mature age player with gives us Cox, Cameron, Begg and the added player which is 4 players for 2 positions. Our list will start to get too top haevy if we add any more KPP.

I'd have liked to delist Kelly, move Begg down back and grab someone like Keeler to develop as a ruck/fwd in the VFL but that's not viable now. I think given our delistings in Poulter, McMahon and Murley (re rookie) it seems like we don't want to hold onto to too many project players that are a few years away from being AFL ready. Since it looks like we're commiting to Begg as a project ruck/fwd doubt we'll add others through the draft.

The only proven backs we have are Howe who is on his last legs in my opinion and Moore who was great last year but has been injury prone.
Of the rest, the best was Murphy who has only really looked good for half the season but has had injury issues. Dean hasnt played a game, Frampton has played half a dozen AFL games down back and Kelly who I believe is close to 0 AFL games down back.
We certainly have talls but most are specilative. Im happy to take another good KPP. We only have 2 genuine rucks. 1 is 31 years old. Be happy to get another one.

 

[sr36]

I'm surprised we don't try and coerce more players with the childhood team line. And draft kids who went for side as well. If they already have a connection Collingwood, form another with them in their early career, they are far more likely to remain loyal.

Beams, Davis, Ollie.

Are there any others who we've had walk during the draft era. I don't think there needs to be an adjustment regarding who we draft

I daresay that we do try to lean on childhood Pies fans - we've got a few back - Howe, Crisp, WHE. Tried and missed with Lynch.

 

[Mick F]

It doesn't sound like the KPPs in this draft are quality but more development crapshoots that I think we'll look to avoid.

Fair point. If they aren’t there you can’t select them.

Very much on the night isn’t it.

 

[Pistol Night]

It's the opposite for me. We could end up with 2 KPP who we would be in no rush to hurry along as we have finally got some depth in KP's. If Hayes isn't there at our first pick, I'd happily take a punt on someone like Hewitt if he's still there

Mitch Lewis was a joke late selection by the Hawks and looks like a top 20 pick now. We need KPP desperately to state the obvious

 

[Vicky Park]

I'm surprised we don't try and coerce more players with the childhood team line. And draft kids who went for side as well. If they already have a connection Collingwood, form another with them in their early career, they are far more likely to remain loyal.

I don’t think we’ve had that much trouble with loyalty over the years, once players are drafted and in our system. We’re all still a bit raw about Ollie - but he was an outlier for us.

 

[TradeDraft]

I don’t think we’ve had that much trouble with loyalty over the years, once players are drafted and in our system. We’re all still a bit raw about Ollie - but he was an outlier for us.

The last 1 I can think of us losing when we did not want to was maybe far back as Nick Davis

 

[Jen2310]

Beams, Davis, Ollie.

Are there any others who we've had walk during the draft era. I don't think there needs to be an adjustment regarding who we draft

I daresay that we do try to lean on childhood Pies fans - we've got a few back - Howe, Crisp, WHE. Tried and missed with Lynch.

Bianco is another who is a die hard pies fan.

 

[Vicky Park]

Hewett is a stone cold killer. The kid is a Bull and exactly what we need.

Best response from the lot of them. Calculated. Doesn’t insult anyone and will work making it no matter where he goes.

There’s a future captain right there.


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I’d love some more mongrel at the Pies, but drafting a killer seems an overreach. Unless murdering the opposition is the next stage of Fly’s grand plan.