Autopsy 2022 Rd 6 - Never in it. Blues disappoint in the West.

[mickelboy182]

People accusing Darcy of deliberately injuring Pitto are a bit much, Kreuze would always look directly at his opponent the whole way and you'd be laughed at calling him dirty...

 

[gbatman]

The defensive aspects of the game are lost to us. We are easy to play against.

Intensity and speed around the contest was terrible. Setting up defensively was terrible, lose players forward of the footy
We looked to have no idea.

The difference between effort and pressure from both sides was chalk and cheese. We're looking like front runners.

 

[BlueBlood15]

A light was shone on a couple of issues that we need to work through to become a consistently strong team:

(1) Our bottom 6 must improve. The names have been discussed in this thread. We’ve got a couple of options in the 2s. Ultimately we won’t win consistently if we carry 6 of 22 players.

(2) We need to find different score sources beyond stoppage dominance. This is our one wood, we’re great at it but it’s not enough on its own. We need to create more scores from turnovers. We also need to work out a way to score from defensive 50 transition. We just could not move the ball from the defensive 50 last night and it created a lopsided inside 50 count and ultimately the damn wall was always going to burst. Think JSOS back helps transition game (as he’s the work horse of the forward line who provides the outlet) and also the pressure/turnover game.

 

[Benaly28]

I would put my remaining $12.50 that it's a 10 week PCL. The slow mo shows the tibia move about 4cm posteriorly when it gets smashed in to.

Darcy clearly had eyes on the player to hurt it.

Hate to say it but they need to get rid of the the knee contact. Should just make the ruckman circle tiny so it's a standing jump only. Bang. There goes knee injuries.

Unfortunately we go from top 8 team to bottom 8 team with him out.

Overreaction.


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[Beyond Blue]

I’m intrigued with TDK. No where near as putrid as he was against GC. Some positive signs.
Maybe Pittonets injury Could prove to be the turning point where he simply had to - and did? Think good thoughts!

His effort was heartening and showed that you just need to be be able to provide a contest because despite losing the hit outs badly we were still very competitive at ground level.

That said the longer the game went on the more Darcy (and Lobb) ran him ragged so I really hope Pitto isnt seriously injured because I doubt he’ll be able to lead the ruck all game, every game.

 

[BeijingBlue]

I noticed in the votes above that Williams received 4 votes. For the life of me how anyone could give votes to a guy that has zero composure, no intensity, terrible disposal and poor decision making. In every game so far this year and in the practice games, all of these were evident. I have seen two games live and watched him carefully. Some absolute howlers last night. Whenever he gets the ball it is a lottery as to what might happen next. Sadly a bust as a quality recruit.

 

[Benaly28]

Fyfe
Young
Chapman
Tucker

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Chapman and Tucker aren’t exactly world beaters.I did say outside Fyfe/Young.

We have a terrible bottom 6 due to injury right now.



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[rp84]

Overreaction.


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Underreaction.

 

[AlecDuncan]

Hope it’s only a corkie

Looked like a PCL to me.

 

[myblueroan]

Said we are still learning about ourselves as a team. Who knows, he now needs to make tough decisions on taking the club forward. They have all had a fresh start with fresh eyes, time to take the blinkers off and start the changes now

Same page then.

 

[BlueBlood15]

Boyd as sub was a baffling decision. IMO sub should always be a midfielder or a player with positional versatility. Boyd is a back pocket so really would only be a direct replacement for four players (Saad, Williams, Doc or Newman).
I see the logic in not having Dow as sub again to ensure he got game time but surely there was another option that covered more bases.
Also we may have missed a trick bringing Motlop over as he didn’t get a game in again. Meaning he’s only played once in three weeks. Hard to select him next week but then again he’s more a long term proposition for this club.

 

[AlecDuncan]

I would put my remaining $12.50 that it's a 10 week PCL. The slow mo shows the tibia move about 4cm posteriorly when it gets smashed in to.

Darcy clearly had eyes on the player to hurt it.

That said, it could easily have been Darcy who got the PCL. Knee on knee is a raffle, so I don't think it was that deliberate.

 

[Juddrockz]

I was at the game last night and I thought Newman actually contested pretty hard under a lot of pressure from the repeat entries and was far from our worst.

He made one glaring turnover late but aside from that his ball use was probably better than Doc or Williams.

I’ve got bigger issues with the likes of Setts, Fish, Martin and even Harry and Charlie who seemingly don’t know how to impact games for long enough.

Freo were triple teaming Harry and Charlie when the ball was coming into the forward line,they knew our small forwards weren't a threat tonight without JSOS there. Our small went missing.

 

[Broadside]

I think we’re missing a huge opportunity to play by not playing Walsh and Cerra on the wing.

I can’t take Newnes and setterfield seriously. Newnes is like having a road block in transition out there, and setterfield plays like he’s fresh off of a lobotomy.

The cupboard is bare in that position and it is full in the inside mid/balanced mid position. Playing a mixture of Cripps, Kennedy, Hewett and one or more of Dow, Stocker, Kemp, Philp even Williams for bursts is going to be far more beneficial to our dynamism as a whole.
At the very least have both Walsh and Cerra share a 50:50 split on one wing.

Walsh would be more damaging on the wing even if he got less possessions.

When Cuningham returns does he have the endurance for playing wing?

 

[Benaly28]

If Pitto is out for an extended period of time it might actually help TDKs development.He needs to impose himself.


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[Beyond Blue]

Freo were triple teaming Harry and Charlie when the ball was coming into the forward line,they knew our small forwards weren't a threat tonight without JSOS there. Our small went missing.

I’ll agree with you however that Jack was a massive out as he works so hard leading his man out of the way to make space for these guys, however early in the game they both dropped marks they should have taken when they had their opponents beaten and just weren’t smart in the way they contested or led.

I still get the feeling there is too much theatrics with both of them (especially H) rather than genuine contest and his lack of mobility - which is to be expected at 200cm - makes us vulnerable to the opposition rebounding especially when TDK is also down there.

IMO I was disappointed with both of them last night and Harry’s lack of form so far this year is beginning to be a worry.

 

[Beyond Blue]

Walsh would be more damaging on the wing even if he got less possessions.

When Cuningham returns does he have the endurance for playing wing?

Going by the latest injury reports Cunners most likely won’t be returning to the league side for another 12 weeks so it’s kind of irrelevant for this season.

 

[The Return of the Paf]

I don't doubt we can catch them. At the moment Freo are a level above. We had around 7 players today who will never be afl finals standard. Austin has to really earn his keep at the draft table

Yes, I counted 7 and maybe another one or two where it's too early to call. Given that injuries always happen and we had a couple of players running around in the twos still developing who would have technically been available, we have to find a minimum of five good players. It's probably more given how prone to injury some of our key players are. I don't want to buy big for the last one or two areas of need (as if it's that few), I want 'us' to use our brains and our initiative to get the players required.

 

[Ald Gardiner]

Going by the latest injury reports Cunners most likely won’t be returning to the league side for another 12 weeks so it’s kind of irrelevant for this season.

Report noted “middle of the season”, whatever it will thankfully be sooner than 12 weeks

 

[katmanblue]

Longmuir has had 3 preasons and 2 full years to bed down a gameplan, us 1 and 6 games

This is critical.

People seem to have been swept away with the media focus in the first few weeks. Hope can be a cruel mistress.

I would have been stoked with 3-3 if you had asked me at the end of last season. We are 4-2 and the coach is starting to learn who he can trust.

I still think we play finals. Just.

Bit of soul searching to do for some players.

Bit of temperance of expectations needed for the fans.

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[Gethelred]

I’ll agree with you however that Jack was a massive out as he works so hard leading his man out of the way to make space for these guys, however early in the game they both dropped marks they should have taken when they had their opponents beaten and just weren’t smart in the way they contested or led.

I still get the feeling there is too much theatrics with both of them (especially H) rather than genuine contest and his lack of mobility - which is to be expected at 200cm - makes us vulnerable to the opposition rebounding especially when TDK is also down there.

IMO I was disappointed with both of them last night and Harry’s lack of form so far this year is beginning to be a worry.

Harry's been pretty important late in the close ones this year. A portion of his goals are now going to Charlie.

I am far more concerned about Owies and Durdin. Durdin's smart and a hard worker, but you cannot be a pressure forward by yourself. You need at least two others who also bring the pain around the balldrop, and you need teammates who don't over commit to the ball instead of ensuring that the next tackle is taken care of.

Owies is looking slow, unable to find separation, unable to kick further than 30m, and easy to shrug off. Jack is really too slow and not agile enough to be a pressure forward, even with all the will in the world.

We desperately need Motlop to come in and have an impact, almost immediately.

 

[Ald Gardiner]

Too much left to too few last night.

Cripps, Cerra, Hewett, Saad, Doc, Weiters, TDK all good - Walsh tried hard …

Newnes, Setterfield are first in line to play VFL. Boyd, Parkes, Owies, Durdin, Fisher, Martin, Newman must be close also.

Our game style stacks up for a while but there’s gaping holes which need to be addressed. This is going to take time and I’m confident that the coaching team has already identified the issues. It’s going to take longer than a few weeks to sort it as it requires players who can adapt.

Be prepared for more trial and error.

The thing is we have decent options now to come in as soon as next week- Stocker, Carroll, Motlop, Willo & Dow. One of MK or JSOS likely to be back too.

Philp is a dangerous forward who attacks the ball hard, surely he comes into the debate too.

Also, let’s just pull the trigger on Kemp down back for the third tall forward. He’s a class act with immense upside and surely gives us more than the likes of Parks and Plow for the time being.

 

[majesticseacapt]

People accusing Darcy of deliberately injuring Pitto are a bit much, Kreuze would always look directly at his opponent the whole way and you'd be laughed at calling him dirty...

100%.

Ruckman will have a quick look at their opponent at most stoppages to get positional advantage or to see if they're jumping, blocking space, about to sidestep to avoid contact etc.

It was simply bad luck and a few centimetres either way and it would have been Darcy injured.

Unfortunately it was bad luck, play on.

 

[sosos]

I think our wingers need to be ballistic runners, but also tough, smart and selfless.

The only candidates that currently fit that exact bill are Walsh and Cerra, but then we're robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Docherty might be an option, but please don't suggest Lob. He doesn't apply anywhere near enough pressure when he doesn't have the ball.

I'd try Williamson there. Lacking a little in smarts, and disposal efficiency, but has the rest covered

 

[Ald Gardiner]

Harry's been pretty important late in the close ones this year. A portion of his goals are now going to Charlie.

I am far more concerned about Owies and Durdin. Durdin's smart and a hard worker, but you cannot be a pressure forward by yourself. You need at least two others who also bring the pain around the balldrop, and you need teammates who don't over commit to the ball instead of ensuring that the next tackle is taken care of.

Owies is looking slow, unable to find separation, unable to kick further than 30m, and easy to shrug off. Jack is really too slow and not agile enough to be a pressure forward, even with all the will in the world.

We desperately need Motlop to come in and have an impact, almost immediately.

Against lesser experienced Norf, Mots must be a serious chance next week