Preview 2022 Round 13 Carlton vs Essendon Friday June 10 7:50PM @ MCG - Team Post #1538

[Kreuuuzeurns]

If McKay, Kennedy and Martin come back, I think we're really close to our best 22, minus Weitering.
-Williams has his strengths, but his weaknesses means it's a toss up between him/Stocker/Newman for the 6th/7th defender.
-Honey/Motlop/Carroll all have a lot of talent, but Owies/Durdin/Cottrell are at least around the same level
-(Controversial) Pitto was definitely ahead of TDK as a ruckman, but I think we do function better when we had the TDK/JSOS combination. We get a lot more pressure up forward, TDK provides more around the ground...we do miss Pitto's dominance at the hitouts though.

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Plowman Young Newman
Saad Marchbank Docherty

TDK Hewett Cerra
LOB Cripps Walsh

Owies McKay Martin
Durdin Charlie JSOS (R)

Kennedy (C) Fisher (F) Stocker (B) Cottrell (C)

Out: Weitering, Motlop, Newnes

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If everyone was fit, the only change I'd make is Weitering in at FB, and Marchbank/Plowman fighting it out for the last spot as 3rd tall.

Need McGov in that side. Will be an elite third tall defender if he stays fit (so probably not).

 

[jimsta10]

never mind......

every kid thinks they're Jordan..happy now?

 

[Bluejob]

If McKay, Kennedy and Martin come back, I think we're really close to our best 22, minus Weitering.
-Williams has his strengths, but his weaknesses means it's a toss up between him/Stocker/Newman for the 6th/7th defender.
-Honey/Motlop/Carroll all have a lot of talent, but Owies/Durdin/Cottrell are at least around the same level
-(Controversial) Pitto was definitely ahead of TDK as a ruckman, but I think we do function better when we had the TDK/JSOS combination. We get a lot more pressure up forward, TDK provides more around the ground...we do miss Pitto's dominance at the hitouts though.

***
Plowman Young Newman
Saad Marchbank Docherty

TDK Hewett Cerra
LOB Cripps Walsh

Owies McKay Martin
Durdin Charlie JSOS (R)

Kennedy (C) Fisher (F) Stocker (B) Cottrell (C)

Out: Weitering, Motlop, Newnes

***
If everyone was fit, the only change I'd make is Weitering in at FB, and Marchbank/Plowman fighting it out for the last spot as 3rd tall.

Cripps likely hasn't featured in the votes since Pitto has been out, he has been less damaging having to fill other gaps for the team.

I think he would like to see Pitto back in the ruck. Me too, if it helps Crippas chances of a brownlow.

 

[cookie monster]

If McKay, Kennedy and Martin come back, I think we're really close to our best 22, minus Weitering.
-Williams has his strengths, but his weaknesses means it's a toss up between him/Stocker/Newman for the 6th/7th defender.
-Honey/Motlop/Carroll all have a lot of talent, but Owies/Durdin/Cottrell are at least around the same level
-(Controversial) Pitto was definitely ahead of TDK as a ruckman, but I think we do function better when we had the TDK/JSOS combination. We get a lot more pressure up forward, TDK provides more around the ground...we do miss Pitto's dominance at the hitouts though.

***
Plowman Young Newman
Saad Marchbank Docherty

TDK Hewett Cerra
LOB Cripps Walsh

Owies McKay Martin
Durdin Charlie JSOS (R)

Kennedy (C) Fisher (F) Stocker (B) Cottrell (C)

Out: Weitering, Motlop, Newnes

***
If everyone was fit, the only change I'd make is Weitering in at FB, and Marchbank/Plowman fighting it out for the last spot as 3rd tall.

Pittonet and McGovern disapprove of this post

 

[myblueroan]

Back in your stable.

Off you go.

 

[Juddernaut08]

Pittonet and McGovern disapprove of this post

They're arguably best 22 for sure, but who do they replace?

TDK/JSOS/McKay/Curnow means we can only play 2 smalls in a 6/6/6 setup

McGovern I agree is an upgrade on Marchbank/Plowman/Young, but not by much.

 

[Juddernaut08]

Cripps likely hasn't featured in the votes since Pitto has been out, he has been less damaging having to fill other gaps for the team.

I think he would like to see Pitto back in the ruck. Me too, if it helps Crippas chances of a brownlow.

I think that's a feature of JSOS being needed as a 2nd tall though. Once we have McKay/Curnow/Martin as marking targets, we don't lose much when JSOS plays the secondary ruck.

 

[Juddernaut08]

Need McGov in that side. Will be an elite third tall defender if he stays fit (so probably not).

Yeah McGov is a slight upgrade on Marchbank/Young/Plowman (if all fit)

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Yeah McGov is a slight upgrade on Marchbank/Young/Plowman (if all fit)

I think Weitering, McGovern, Durdin/Young and Marchbank/Plowman would work in the same side.

 

[Aphrodite]

Weitering's pride for returning, resilient Marchbank

Few will be happier than Jacob Weitering when Caleb Marchbank returns.

www.carltonfc.com.au

 

[Juddernaut08]

I think Weitering, McGovern, Durdin/Young and Marchbank/Plowman would work in the same side.

What do you do with 2 of Doch/Saad/Newman/Stocker? Midfield rotations?

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

What do you do with 2 of Doch/Saad/Newman/Stocker? Midfield rotations?

Three of them play in a seven man defence. Williams and Kemp also to be considered.

If all were fit Doc could push to a wing if required. Kemp up forward. Would be a great problem to have but unfortunately there will always be injuries

 

[Accidental genius]

Don’t forget Williams

Edit: ...and kemp

 

[HereComesJuddy]

NO:19 Tram Eskie

Who was that poster Aph? NOSOSNO or something weird like that?

 

[RPCB]

What do you do with 2 of Doch/Saad/Newman/Stocker? Midfield rotations?

We have an incredible amount of depth right now. It’s no wonder we can lose players to injury from the backline and still have an abundance of options.

 

[Accidental genius]

When Gov and Marchy both fit and available maybe Gov goes back to f50 ?

Would be interesting to see how’ve Marchy goes on a wing as another possibility.

 

[Aphrodite]

Who was that poster Aph? NOSOSNO or something weird like that?

Yes similar to that username.

 

[FRUMPY]

Which account is it from?

Michael voss's account

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[FRUMPY]

Q: 'when this guy comes back from injury, where do you play him or who does he replace?'

A: 'one of the other 3 who just got injured for 6 weeks'

You know it's how it works

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[Blue Chip Pass]

Still over the moon for Marchbank.
Would be a perfect Friday night, if Harry is selected.

 

[BigBreakfast]

Marchy in those clips being referred to as a youngster. His kids are all in uni now.

Did you notice some of the others in the clip. Rance was there ffs!

 

[BigBreakfast]

every kid thinks they're Jordan..happy now?

Steph or Ja these days. Even Lebron is old news.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Which account is it from?

 

[Earls Smother]

Yep. Have a look at the nigh constant pressure on the coaches of Essendon, the opinion of their hierarchy from Essendon people in the media and the fanbase throughout that time. The whole time, it's been solidarity externally with the undercurrent of frustration and anger. Players have been publicly put under the spotlight, coaches have been questioned, fired and hired with renewed scrutiny, the CEO's have been replaced, etc.

Their 'minimum pass' hasn't been met in those seasons, and while they made finals last year losing to us made that season's relative success dubious.

They beat us twice in '82. Do we consider our relative success that year dubious?

 

[Gethelred]

They beat us twice in '82. Do we consider our relative success that year dubious?

... did you read the original post?

There is a single success condition in the AFL. Failing to make that success condition means you have to reach a 'minimum pass' in order to ensure continuity of squad/regime/status quo; ie, you need to beat the teams you are rivals with/your fans dislike in order to keep the jungle drums from beating. Failing to do so puts your club under pressure; more in some cases, less in others.

Winning the flag means you've achieved the success condition of the AFL; you don't need to reach 'minimum pass' to ensure continuity. Your entire structure - from bootstudder to president - has just been demonstrated to have worked.