List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

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Spoiler: Draft Pick order

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Spoiler: Key dates

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[Ashley B]

It’s sounds similar to Stevo and Treloar from the Pies. They just need to get money off the books

 

[Pagans Paddock99]

It’s sounds similar to Stevo and Treloar from the Pies. They just need to get money off the books

They finished 10th and have about 5 good players? Who the f* are they paying?


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[Roosurgence]

Yeah I don’t get it either. Especially if it got done for a future second. With him being contracted, it really doesn’t make sense.


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Have a look at the Shaun Higgins thread when he first moved across.

Not a lot of happy campers, but by the end of his time at North everyone had changed their tune.

Sometimes players just need a change of scenery to unlock their potential.

 

[Roosurgence]

They finished 10th and have about 5 good players? Who the f* are they paying?


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Brad Hill

 

[justroyal]

So how does this turbo charged leg up work? Are these draft swap for players to be used in this draft or next years?

 

[My Left Foote]

Humans are almost anatomically symmetrical and so are Sherrins. So I wonder why left footers are (or are seen to be) better kicks?

There have been so many players classed as having a raking left foot but I’ve never heard of anyone with a raking right foot.

This is purely anecdotal but right footers tend to kick through the ball with a straight action (except for Gryan Miers) whereas left footers tend to swing their leg around in more of an arc (Buddy is an extreme example). My feeling this visually looks like they’re kicking harder and therefore they’re perceived as kicking longer or having a raking left foot.

 

[Nutjob]

Have a look at the Shaun Higgins thread when he first moved across.

Not a lot of happy campers, but by the end of his time at North everyone had changed their tune.

I meant why would St kilda do it. They have bugger all young talent and they’re heading for another rebuild. Trading one of their very few talented youngsters for a speculative future pick just doesn’t add up.


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[Dodecahedron]

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Yep - booming right foot. Definitely.
But a raking left foot is different. It’s something about how the drop punt starts spinning diagonally then straightens up.

 

[Ashley B]

They finished 10th and have about 5 good players? Who the f* are they paying?


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They do have a lot a players who were good in the day Hannebery gone though , Crouch, Hill probably others plus King , Steele. Maybe they just overpaid for players.

 

[My Left Foote]

Have a look at the Shaun Higgins thread when he first moved across.

Not a lot of happy campers, but by the end of his time at North everyone had changed their tune.

Sometimes players just need a change of scenery to unlock their potential.

This is the perfect comparison, let’s hope it works out as well as it did with Higgo.

 

[Roosurgence]

I meant why would St kilda do it. They have bugger all young talent and they’re heading for another rebuild. Trading one of their very few talented youngsters for a speculative future pick just doesn’t add up.


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Internally he might not be that highly rated.

They might also feel they have better options on their list to cover his role?

Maybe they feel this year might be the year that they get the best value, especially if the above statements are true?

As fans and supporters we rate players on what we see on a weekend, so our view is skewed compared to a coach who is rating the player on what they are bringing to the club on a daily basis, not just the game on the weekend.

 

[Ashley B]

Sometimes too it’s best for the player to have a fresh start and reinvigorate. It’s really a job so if you are unhappy best you look elsewhere.

 

[Roosurgence]

Sometimes too it’s best for the player to have a fresh start and invigorate . It’s really a job so if you are unhappy best you look elsewhere.

It’s a bit like TT. If Noble is still coach, he would most likely be on the table.

Maybe Ratten doesn’t rate him? If you watch that doco, “Show me the Money” and listen to Dunstan, it sounds like if you are on Ratten’s shit list, then it’s time to get out.

 

[Tas]

Is that accurate?

2019: Total Liabilities $19,636,620
2020: Total Liabilities $21,381,446
2021: Total Liabilities $19,192,973

We went from $9,708,752 in 2020 to $13,335,912 last year, most of ours was related to the redevelopment, it is more an issue of the timing of receipts and payments.

Not all liabilities is debt though, a big chunk of our liabilities include money received for memberships or from the AFL that applies to the following financial period, so to adjust the profit/loss to accurately reflect the profit during the financial year that revenue related to that is moved into a balance day liability and the following day for the new financial period is moved back into revenue for the new financial year.

Saints have as of October last year:
Other short-term loans of 4,057,570
Financial liabilities of $6,750,000
Lease liability of $2,315,752

These are financial instruments worth $13,123,322 outside of things like trade creditors, short-term leasing, employee liabilities, etc.

We only have $1,504,550 as a lease liability, we don't have any other financing instruments, no loans or borrowing and had enough cash in the bank to pay out what was left of our redevelopment expense. I think they paid off $4m last year so they have a bit to go.

 

[Flawed Genius]

Not all liabilities is debt though, a big chunk of our liabilities include money received for memberships or from the AFL that applies to the following financial period, so to adjust the profit/loss to accurately reflect the profit during the financial year that revenue related to that is moved into a balance day liability and the following day for the new financial period is moved back into revenue for the new financial year.

Absolutely incomprehensible. I love it, thank you

 

[big_e]

Hunter Clark will make a decision on his playing future when he returns from overseas next week but the young Saint looks increasingly likely to be elsewhere in 2023.

North Melbourne continues to lead the race if the contracted Clark departs, but it’s understood Essendon also plans to meet with him when he is back in Melbourne.

He has one season to run on the deal he signed in March last year and a trade would need to be struck if he is to leave Moorabbin.

The 23-year-old, the No.7 pick in the 2017 draft, has looked a budding star at times but endured repeat collision injuries in the past two seasons that interrupted his progress.

Clark sustained a severely broken jaw last year in a high-profile incident with Adelaide’s David Mackay, who was ultimately cleared of any wrongdoing at the tribunal.

His start to this season was delayed when he hurt the AC joint on his right side in a pre-season clash with Bomber Dyson Heppell, before he suffered a compound fracture of his nose in a collision with teammate Dan Butler.

That run of horror luck has contributed to Clark weighing up whether he needs a fresh start.

There is also a belief the 68-gamer can be too comfortable at times and won’t realise his potential at St Kilda.

At his best, Clark combines excellent composure with silky skills and has most often been used at half-back but was drafted as a midfielder.

Opposition clubs believe he is gettable for a selection in the 20s, with the future second-round pick the AFL awarded the Kangaroos, as part of its assistance package, potentially the key to unlocking a deal.

They don’t have a selection in that region this year but are open to ‘splitting’ the No.1 pick as they eye an active trade period, with Dockers Griffin Logue and Darcy Tucker already nominating them.

The Bombers’ draft hand this year includes picks four, 22, 40 and 58.

Clark is close with North’s fellow ex-Dandenong Stingrays Luke Davies-Uniacke and Aiden Bonar but that is just one factor as he considers where he will be most challenged and play his best football.

Hunter Clark's first game for us will be his 69th in the AFL.

Nice.

 

[krakouers]

Humans are almost anatomically symmetrical and so are Sherrins. So I wonder why left footers are (or are seen to be) better kicks?

There have been so many players classed as having a raking left foot but I’ve never heard of anyone with a raking right foot.

Because they are seen as normal

 

[krakouers]

Hunter Clark's first game for us will be his 69th in the AFL.

Nice.

I take it, that gives it a Zondor spank of approval?

 

[tales129]

That run of horror luck has contributed to Clark weighing up whether he needs a fresh start.

There is also a belief the 68-gamer can be too comfortable at times and won’t realise his potential at St Kilda.

At his best, Clark combines excellent composure with silky skills and has most often been used at half-back but was drafted as a midfielder.

Clark is close with North’s fellow ex-Dandenong Stingrays Luke Davies-Uniacke and Aiden Bonar but that is just one factor as he considers where he will be most challenged and play his best football.

The bolded can only come from st kilda internally afaic

That’s the sort of shit directly from an exit interview

 

[benbanjo]

Getting Clark would be similar to getting shagger Grant - this kid is class

Lets hope we don't have to give up as much to get him though.

 

[benbanjo]

Hunter Clark, came off 2nd best after a collision with Dyson Heppell, bit of alarm bell there

True but Winnie came off second best after colliding with Hird of all people.

 

[big_e]

The bolded can only come from st kilda internally afaic

That’s the sort of s**t directly from an exit interview

Would be an interesting battle at the trade table then. Don't offer much and then we see just how much they want him gone.

 

[Psicosis]

Is that accurate?

Yes - it’s why they’re desperate to stay relevant on-field. Unfortunately for them, mid table isn’t actually relevant.

 

[Moti]

The Clark 2020 highlights are extremely appealing, his game sense looked fantastic and he moved well.

 

[benbanjo]

The Clark 2020 highlights are extremely appealing, his game sense looked fantastic and he moved well.

We could make a highlight reel of Turner and make it look great.