List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Period

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2022 AFL Trade Period

All About Carlton

Current draft picks: 10, 29, 49, 66
List changes:
Out: Hayes, McDonald, Newnes, Parks, Stocker, Williamson, (Jones), Setterfield
In: Blake Acres
Uncontracted: 1 - Ed Curnow - new deal pending (Fogarty confirmed contracted for 2023)
List status: Senior - 33 (inc. Owies); Rookie - 5; Cat-B Rookie - 1; Free spots - 4 (plus one Cat-B)

Key Dates

Draft Nominations: OPEN
Mon 10-Oct 9am: AFL Draft Nominations open
Mon 21-Nov 3pm: AFL Draft Nominations close

The Draft:
Mon 28-Nov
7.10pm: National Draft Round One; Bidding on F/S, Academy & NGA
Tue 29-Nov
5.45pm - 6.30pm: Selection Trade period
7pm: National Draft Round Two to completion
10pm - 11.00pm: Rookie Upgrade period
10pm - 11.00pm: Delisted Free Agency Period 3
Wed 30-Nov
3pm: Pre-season Draft
3.20pm: Rookie Draft
Thu 1-Dec
by 4pm: Final Club list lodgment

Delisted Free Agency Periods 1 & 2: CLOSED
Thu 03-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences
Wed 09-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes
Fri 11-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences
Tue 15-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes

Player and Selection Trades: CLOSED
Mon 03-Oct 9am: Trade Period commences – Players & Selections
Wed 12-Oct 7.30pm: Trade Period closes – player trades
Tue 15-Nov 5.00pm: Trade Period closes – selections only

RFA and UFA: CLOSED
Fri 30-Sep 9am: Restricted Free Agency (RFA) and Unrestricted Free Agency (UFA) Period commences
Fri 07-Oct 5pm: Close of Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.
Mon 10-Oct 5pm: Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends
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Completed Trades:

Fri 30-Sep:
1 Karl Amon (PA) to Hawthorn (UFA) Port Adelaide receive 2nd round compensation pick (currently Pick 27).
Mon 3-Oct:
2 Bobby Hill (GWS) to Collingwood GWS receive Pies' future 2nd round pick. Also swap of 3rd round picks - Pies get pick GWS pick 41, for their pick 44.
3 Tim Taranto (GWS) to Richmond GWS receive Tigers 1st round pick, and Tigers 2nd round pick from NM (currently picks 12 and 19).
4 Jayden Hunt (Mel) to West Coast (UFA) Melbourne receive 3rd round compensation pick (currently Pick 54).
Tue 4-Oct:
5 Blake Acres (Freo) to CARLTON Fremantle receive Carlton's future 3rd round pick.
6 Daniel McStay (Bris) to Collingwood (RFA) Brisbane receive 2nd round compensation pick (currently Pick 35).
7 Liam Jones (CARLTON) to Western Bulldogs (UFA) CARLTON receive 3rd round compensation pick (currently Pick 49).
8 Pick trade: Melbourne picks 33 (R2), 43 (R3), 53 (R3) to Port Adelaide for pick 27 (R2)
Wed 5-Oct:
9 Zaine Cordy (WBU) to St Kilda (UFA) No compensation for Western Bulldogs (due to taking UFA Liam Jones)
10 Griffin Logue and Darcy Tucker (Freo) to North Melbourne. Fremantle receive Future 2nd and 3rd picks (AFL assistance package for NM). Additionally, NM gains Freo's Future 3rd pick in exchange for North's future 4th pick.
11 Pick trade: GWS trade pick their second round pick (currently 21) and future Rd 2 pick to Brisbane for their 1st round pick (currently 15)
12 Ben Long (StK) to Gold Coast St Kilda receive 2nd round pick (currently 32), with the Saints' future 4th round pick going back to the Suns.
13 Tom Berry (Bris) to Gold Coast Brisbane receive 2 x Rd 2 picks (currently 25 and 36), and a 3rd rd pick (56). Suns get Brisbane's 3rd rd (46) and GWS future 2nd round pick.
Thu 6-Oct:
14 Josh Corbett (GCS) to Fremantle Gold Coast receive Freo's future round 4 selection.
Fri 7-Oct:
15 Tanner Bruhn (GWS) to Geelong GWS receive Geelong's first round pick (Currently pick 18)
16 Pick trade: Geelong Rd 2 pick (currently 38), two x Rd 3 picks (48, 55), and future 2nd and 4th picks to Brisbane for their Rd 2 pick (25).
Mon 10-Oct:
17 Toby Bedford (Mel) to GWS. Melbourne receive GWS Rd 3 pick (tied to Haw - currently 44).
18 Luke Jackson (Mel) to Fremantle . Melbourne receive Fremantle's 1st round pick (currently 13) and future 1st and 2nd round picks. Fremantle also receive Melbourne's Rd 3 pick (tied to Haw - currently 44), and 4th round pick (tied to StK - 67).
19 Will Setterfield (CARLTON) to Essendon. Carlton receive Essendon's future 4th round pick. Essendon also receive Carlton's 4th rd pick (currently 68).
20 Izak Rankine (GCS) to Adelaide. Suns gain Adelaide's 1st rd pick (currently 5) and future 3rd and 4th picks. Adelaide also receive Suns' Rd 3 pick (tied to PA - currently 46) and future 4th pick (tied to Freo).
21 "Mega deal"
North Melbourne:
Out - Pick 1, Jason Horne-Francis, Future 3rd (Freo)
In - Picks 2 (WCE), 3 (GWS), 40 (WCE), 43 (PA - from Ade), Future 1st (PA)
West Coast:
Out - Pick 2, 40, Junior Rioli
In - Pick 8 (PA), 12 (GWS from Rich), Future 2nd (PA), Future 3rd (PA)
Port Adelaide:
Out - Pick 8, 43 (Ade), 53 (Mel), 57 (Syd), Future 1st, Future 2nd, Future 3rd
In - Jason Horne-Francis, Junior Rioli, Future 2nd (GWS tied to Col), Future 3rd (NM tied to Freo)
GWS:
Out - Pick 3, 12 (from Rich), Future 2nd (Col)
In - Pick 1, 53 (PA from Mel), 57 (PA from Syd)
Tue 11-Oct:
22 Jack Gunston (Haw) to Brisbane. Hawthorn receive Rd 3 pick from Brisbane (currently 48 - tied to Carlton) and Brisbane's future 4th rd pick.
23 Brodie Grundy (Col) to Melbourne. Collingwood receive Melbourne's Rd 2 pick (currently 27) in exchange.
24 Billy Frampton (Ade) to Collingwood. Adelaide receive Collingwood's future 3rd round pick.
25 Jack Bowes (GCS) to Geelong. Geelong also receive Gold Coast's pick 7. Gold Coast receive Geelong's future 3rd round pick.
26 Jacob Hopper (GWS) to Richmond. GWS receive Richmond's Rd 2 pick (currently 31) and future 1st round pick. Richmond also receive GWS 3rd rd pick (tied to Melb, currently 53), and GWS 4th rd pick (tied to Adelaide, currently 63).
Wed 12-Oct:
27 Aaron Francis (Ess) to Sydney. Sydney also receive Essendon's pick 42. Essendon receive Sydney's pick 37 and future 4th Rd pick.
28 Sam Weideman (Mel) to Essendon. Melbourne receive Essendon's pick 37. Essendon also receive Melbourne's picks 54 and 72.
29 Josh Schache (WBU) to Melbourne. Western Bulldogs receive Melbourne's future 4th round pick.
30 Lachie Hunter (WBU) to Melbourne. Western Bulldogs receive Melbourne's future 3rd round pick.
31 Josh Dunkley (WBU) to Brisbane. Western Bulldogs receive pick 21 along with Brisbane's future 1st and 2nd round picks, and Geelong's future 4th. Brisbane also receive the Bulldog's future 3rd and a future 3rd tied to Melbourne.
32 Ollie Henry (Coll) to Geelong. Cooper Stephens (Gee) to Hawthorn. Tom Mitchell (Haw) to Collingwood. Collingwood also receive pick 25 from Geelong. Hawthorn receive picks 41 and 50 from Collingwood.
33 Rory Lobb (Freo) to Western Bulldogs. Fremantle receive pick 30 and Western Bulldog's future 2nd round pick.
34 Jaeger O'Meara (Haw) to Fremantle. Lloyd Meek (Fre) to Hawthorn. Fremantle receive Hawthorn's future 4th round pick. Hawthorn receive Western Bulldog's future 2nd round pick.

Post Trade-week Trades (Selections only):
35 Oct 21: Pick Trade: The Brisbane Lions trade its Round Three Selection (56) to the Adelaide Crows for its Future Round Four Selection (tied to Fremantle)
36 Oct 21: Pick Trade: North Melbourne trade its Round Four Selection (59) and Future Round Two Selection to the Adelaide Crows for its Round Two Selection (23).
37 Nov 15: Pick Trade: North Melbourne trades round three selection (43) to Fremantle for Fremantle's future round four selection (tied to Hawthorn).

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Missed Out on trades:
Matt Crouch (Ade) - Adelaide looking to find him a new home.
James Rowe (Ade) - Possible move to Western Bulldogs.
Fischer McAsey (Ade) - Possible move to Carlton. Carlton apparently no longer interested.
Paddy Dow (Car) - Possible move to NM, Gee.
Caleb Poulter (Col) - Possible move to Gold Coast.
Nick Bryan (Ess) - Possible move, perhaps to Saints.
Brayden Ham (Ess) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere.
Liam Henry (Freo) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere, but is contracted.
Jeremy Sharp (GCS) - Possible move to Freo
Brayden Fiorini (GCS) - Possible move to Collingwood
Esava Ratugolea (Gee) - Several clubs interested. Geelong open to move. Perhaps GWS.
Lachie Whitfield (GWS) - GWS open to discussion
Nick Haynes (GWS) - GWS open to discussion
Kozzy Pickett (Mel) - Possible move to Port Adelaide. Melbourne say not happening.
Adam Tomlinson (Mel) - Melbourne open to move.
James Harmes (Mel) - Possible move to Essendon (and others). Melbourne say not happening.
Tarryn Thomas (NM) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere, possibly GCS.
Martin Frederick (PA) - Possible move to WCE
Mitch Georgiades (PA) - Possible move to WCE
Sam Hayes (PA) - Contracted, but Port may be open to offers elsewhere.
Ivan Soldo (Rich) - Possible move to GWS.
Jack Graham (Rich) - Likely now to stay at Richmond after exploring PA.
Riley Collier-Dawkins (Rich) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere.
Jack Bytel (StK) - Essendon interested.
Hunter Clark (StK) - Possible move to NM.
Brad Hill (StK) - Possible move to NM.
Lewis Mellican (Syd) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere.
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DFA and Retiree moves
Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti (ex-Ess) - looking to return from retirement, possibly to Freo, as SSP
Conor McKenna (ex-Ess) - looking to return from retirement, possibly to Gee in rookie draft
Liam Stocker (ex-Car) - Possible DFA to Essendon
Ciaran Byrne (ex-Car) - Possible return to Carlton as Cat-B Rookie - 5-Oct: Not happening, stays in Ireland
Francis Evans (ex-Gee) - Possible DFA to Port Adelaide
Quinton Narkle (ex-Gee) - DFA, several clubs interested
Kyle Hartigan (ex-Haw) - Possible DFA to St Kilda
Tom Phillips (ex-Haw) - Possible DFA to Essendon
Dan Hanneberry (ex-StK) - NM interested in bringing him out of retirement
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Draft Order and selection summary


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Indicative Draft Order

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Arr0w said:
This draft is very interesting, as in very even

Guys like Hotton, Burgiel could have similar output at the next level

Jefferson has more upside/growth than a Cadman to match future output

None of the highly ranked mids have high scoreboard impact

I wouldn't overreach in this draft
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Who would you take@ pick 49?
Drury? Noble?
 

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esoteric said:
Most of the teams who finished above us last year are adding star power and improving their lists. Geelong looking like adding Bowes, Henry and Pick 7. Brisbane Ashcroft and Dunkley. Richmond Taranto and Hopper. Collingwood Hill and McStay plus a couple. I like Blake Acres but it feels like if that's all we do we are going backwards relatively. I would hope we left some flexibility in H's 7 year deal to back end it a bit. If so we can't be too far off a Bowes discussion especially if Dow and/or Setters move on. I will puke if Geelong, Hawthorn or even Essendon get a massive benefit from Suns ineptitude when it seems we were not too far off.
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We don’t need any more players. This is the team now. Add some kids from the draft and it will either win us flags or not. Nothing is guaranteed. But this is the team. There won’t be anymore “star power” required

Do people think we have an infinite salary cap?
 
Think the aim will be to package Dow with a pick for a better pick.

Dow and 28 to GWS for 21.
Dow and 28 to Essendon for 22.
Dow and 49 to WB for 30.
Dow and 49 to North for 33 (if they get it from Port).

Think those would be the kinds of deals to chase.

GWS are losing some inside mids, so Dow could be a cheap replacement for them. They're also not a team overly fussed with defensive workrate.
Essendon are crying out for a dynamic mid, but the barrier is always Dodo. Could substitute Setterfield in this deal too, by the sounds of things.
WB losing Dunkley might be semi-interested, though their midfield is already stacked (if a little one-paced).
North probably need to do what we did early rebuild - bring in a handful of cheap former first rounders who haven't kicked on, and see if any can come good.
 
esoteric said:
Most of the teams who finished above us last year are adding star power and improving their lists. Geelong looking like adding Bowes, Henry and Pick 7. Brisbane Ashcroft and Dunkley. Richmond Taranto and Hopper. Collingwood Hill and McStay plus a couple. I like Blake Acres but it feels like if that's all we do we are going backwards relatively.
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It's an interesting point that Collingwood are adding 'star power' in McStay, but Brisbane are improving their list by losing that same 'star power'.

Cats are losing their greatest Captain, and arguably greatest ever player. How are we going backwards relatively?
 
bmaurizio said:
Unfortunately we don’t have salary cap mobility , some outrageously generous contracts that were structured a few years back to Gov , Williams& Martin are coming back to haunt us and yes all the finalist have improved their lists and will be stronger. Imagine coming up against the Melbourne wing a fit Grundy / Gawn ruck team.
our elites Sam, Charlie & Harry combined restrict our position too.
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How are we haunted by Gov and Martin's front-ended contracts? Gov has 1 more year, and Martin 2 at well below AFL average wage.
 
Blue__Balls said:
Think the aim will be to package Dow with a pick for a better pick.

Dow and 28 to GWS for 21.
Dow and 28 to Essendon for 22.
Dow and 49 to WB for 30.
Dow and 49 to North for 33 (if they get it from Port).

Think those would be the kinds of deals to chase.

GWS are losing some inside mids, so Dow could be a cheap replacement for them. They're also not a team overly fussed with defensive workrate.
Essendon are crying out for a dynamic mid, but the barrier is always Dodo. Could substitute Setterfield in this deal too, by the sounds of things.
WB losing Dunkley might be semi-interested, though their midfield is already stacked (if a little one-paced).
North probably need to do what we did early rebuild - bring in a handful of cheap former first rounders who haven't kicked on, and see if any can come good.
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Wonder if we could do a future pick swap... Would love to get early in next year's draft.
e.g. Dow, 28 and F1 for either GWS or Norf F1
 
esoteric said:
Most of the teams who finished above us last year are adding star power and improving their lists. Geelong looking like adding Bowes, Henry and Pick 7. Brisbane Ashcroft and Dunkley. Richmond Taranto and Hopper. Collingwood Hill and McStay plus a couple. I like Blake Acres but it feels like if that's all we do we are going backwards relatively. I would hope we left some flexibility in H's 7 year deal to back end it a bit. If so we can't be too far off a Bowes discussion especially if Dow and/or Setters move on. I will puke if Geelong, Hawthorn or even Essendon get a massive benefit from Suns ineptitude when it seems we were not too far off.
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Those other clubs have been forced to act due to the age concerns and positional depth gaps of their list, whereas for us IMO a lot of that is in place and now the improvement must comes from within in the following ares:
- young guys on our list like Durdin, Motlop and Kemp (I’m less confident on Carroll and Philp)
- it’s also easy to forget Cerra and Walsh are not yet 22 and still have a lot of scope to improve
- H and TDK also have scope to improve given they are 24 years old and play in positions where it typically takes longer to mature
- getting a meaningful contribution from previously injury prone types like Gov, Marchy, Williams, Cunner and Martin will make a huge difference and put less pressure on playing the likes of Owies, Plowman etc
- I also think off the back of his finish to the year there is a chance Setts has a Kennedy-like jump in output in 2023
On the whole lots to be excited about IMO.
 

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Beyond Blue said:
Those other clubs have been forced to act due to the age concerns and positional depth gaps of their list, whereas for us IMO a lot of that is in place and now the improvement must comes from within in the following ares:
- young guys on our list like Durdin, Motlop and Kemp (I’m less confident on Carroll and Philp)
- it’s also easy to forget Cerra and Walsh are not yet 22 and still have a lot of scope to improve
- H and TDK also have scope to improve given they are 24 years old and play in positions where it typically takes longer to mature
- getting a meaningful contribution from previously injury prone types like Gov, Marchy, Williams, Cunner and Martin will make a huge difference and put less pressure on playing the likes of Owies, Plowman etc
- I also think off the back of his finish to the year there is a chance Setts has a Kennedy-like jump in output in 2023
On the whole lots to be excited about IMO.
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Agree with all that you have said. But if we can have all that AND improve our list as well, why wouldn't we want to do that? A few posters disagreeing with me, which is fine, but an opportunity like Bowes and #7 is a unicorn in a market in which it is just so tough to get a breakthrough advantage. As I said it feels like it might not be too far out of our reach. Whoever lands that deal gets a pretty big leg up on the other 17 I reckon.
 
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esoteric said:
Agree with all that you have said. But if we can have all that AND improve our list as well, why wouldn't we want to do that? A few posters disagreeing with me, which is fine, but opportunities like Bowes and #7 don't come around all that often and as I said it doesn't seem like it's too far out of our reach.
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Don’t think it’s fair to ask Cripps, Charlie, Harry, Walsh etc. to take unders only to bring in Bowes on 850k a season.

This is not 2019 where we have shed loads of cap space to spare.

If Bowes were willing to smooth that out over four or five seasons I have no doubt we’d throw our hat in the ring but there is no reason for him to do that. Good on him for getting what he’s owed.
 
Kreuuuzeurns said:
Don’t think it’s fair to ask Cripps, Charlie, Harry, Walsh etc. to take unders only to bring in Bowes on 850k a season.

This is not 2019 where we have shed loads of cap space to spare.

If Bowes were willing to smooth that out over four or five seasons I have no doubt we’d throw our hat in the ring but there is no reason for him to do that. Good on him for getting what he’s owed.
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Has done just that I believe.
 
Stamos said:
It's an interesting point that Collingwood are adding 'star power' in McStay, but Brisbane are improving their list by losing that same 'star power'.

Cats are losing their greatest Captain, and arguably greatest ever player. How are we going backwards relatively?
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I don't believe we should be blinked onto changing our current recruiting and trading philosophy because of what so called other clubs are doing.

Besides, there is hardly anyone else currently available worth trading for..

I am more confident than ever in our club's recruiting philosophy under Austin and Agresta.

The organic improvement of Motlop, Carroll and hopefully an injury free Kemp will make us much better than brining in another foot soldier from another club (which is what is left on the trade market it seems)
 
bmaurizio said:
Unfortunately we don’t have salary cap mobility , some outrageously generous contracts that were structured a few years back to Gov , Williams& Martin are coming back to haunt us and yes all the finalist have improved their lists and will be stronger. Imagine coming up against the Melbourne wing a fit Grundy / Gawn ruck team.
our elites Sam, Charlie & Harry combined restrict our position too.
On the brighter side should Gov , Williams , Martin, Marchy & Cunners stay on the park for half a season together , Baggers Will playing finals 2023.
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Kreuuuzeurns said:
Don’t think it’s fair to ask Cripps, Charlie, Harry, Walsh etc. to take unders only to bring in Bowes on 850k a season.

This is not 2019 where we have shed loads of cap space to spare.

If Bowes were willing to smooth that out over four or five seasons I have no doubt we’d throw our hat in the ring but there is no reason for him to do that. Good on him for getting what he’s owed.
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Bowes is an interesting one. Is he any better than Setterfield? I don't think so. It would be a big price to pay for a VFL player just to get pick 7
 

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