List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Period

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2022 AFL Trade Period

All About Carlton

Current draft picks: 10, 29, 49, 66
List changes:
Out: Hayes, McDonald, Newnes, Parks, Stocker, Williamson, (Jones), Setterfield
In: Blake Acres
Uncontracted: 1 - Ed Curnow - new deal pending (Fogarty confirmed contracted for 2023)
List status: Senior - 33 (inc. Owies); Rookie - 5; Cat-B Rookie - 1; Free spots - 4 (plus one Cat-B)

Key Dates

Draft Nominations: OPEN
Mon 10-Oct 9am: AFL Draft Nominations open
Mon 21-Nov 3pm: AFL Draft Nominations close

The Draft:
Mon 28-Nov
7.10pm: National Draft Round One; Bidding on F/S, Academy & NGA
Tue 29-Nov
5.45pm - 6.30pm: Selection Trade period
7pm: National Draft Round Two to completion
10pm - 11.00pm: Rookie Upgrade period
10pm - 11.00pm: Delisted Free Agency Period 3
Wed 30-Nov
3pm: Pre-season Draft
3.20pm: Rookie Draft
Thu 1-Dec
by 4pm: Final Club list lodgment

Delisted Free Agency Periods 1 & 2: CLOSED
Thu 03-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences
Wed 09-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes
Fri 11-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences
Tue 15-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes

Player and Selection Trades: CLOSED
Mon 03-Oct 9am: Trade Period commences – Players & Selections
Wed 12-Oct 7.30pm: Trade Period closes – player trades
Tue 15-Nov 5.00pm: Trade Period closes – selections only

RFA and UFA: CLOSED
Fri 30-Sep 9am: Restricted Free Agency (RFA) and Unrestricted Free Agency (UFA) Period commences
Fri 07-Oct 5pm: Close of Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.
Mon 10-Oct 5pm: Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends
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Completed Trades:

Fri 30-Sep:
1 Karl Amon (PA) to Hawthorn (UFA) Port Adelaide receive 2nd round compensation pick (currently Pick 27).
Mon 3-Oct:
2 Bobby Hill (GWS) to Collingwood GWS receive Pies' future 2nd round pick. Also swap of 3rd round picks - Pies get pick GWS pick 41, for their pick 44.
3 Tim Taranto (GWS) to Richmond GWS receive Tigers 1st round pick, and Tigers 2nd round pick from NM (currently picks 12 and 19).
4 Jayden Hunt (Mel) to West Coast (UFA) Melbourne receive 3rd round compensation pick (currently Pick 54).
Tue 4-Oct:
5 Blake Acres (Freo) to CARLTON Fremantle receive Carlton's future 3rd round pick.
6 Daniel McStay (Bris) to Collingwood (RFA) Brisbane receive 2nd round compensation pick (currently Pick 35).
7 Liam Jones (CARLTON) to Western Bulldogs (UFA) CARLTON receive 3rd round compensation pick (currently Pick 49).
8 Pick trade: Melbourne picks 33 (R2), 43 (R3), 53 (R3) to Port Adelaide for pick 27 (R2)
Wed 5-Oct:
9 Zaine Cordy (WBU) to St Kilda (UFA) No compensation for Western Bulldogs (due to taking UFA Liam Jones)
10 Griffin Logue and Darcy Tucker (Freo) to North Melbourne. Fremantle receive Future 2nd and 3rd picks (AFL assistance package for NM). Additionally, NM gains Freo's Future 3rd pick in exchange for North's future 4th pick.
11 Pick trade: GWS trade pick their second round pick (currently 21) and future Rd 2 pick to Brisbane for their 1st round pick (currently 15)
12 Ben Long (StK) to Gold Coast St Kilda receive 2nd round pick (currently 32), with the Saints' future 4th round pick going back to the Suns.
13 Tom Berry (Bris) to Gold Coast Brisbane receive 2 x Rd 2 picks (currently 25 and 36), and a 3rd rd pick (56). Suns get Brisbane's 3rd rd (46) and GWS future 2nd round pick.
Thu 6-Oct:
14 Josh Corbett (GCS) to Fremantle Gold Coast receive Freo's future round 4 selection.
Fri 7-Oct:
15 Tanner Bruhn (GWS) to Geelong GWS receive Geelong's first round pick (Currently pick 18)
16 Pick trade: Geelong Rd 2 pick (currently 38), two x Rd 3 picks (48, 55), and future 2nd and 4th picks to Brisbane for their Rd 2 pick (25).
Mon 10-Oct:
17 Toby Bedford (Mel) to GWS. Melbourne receive GWS Rd 3 pick (tied to Haw - currently 44).
18 Luke Jackson (Mel) to Fremantle . Melbourne receive Fremantle's 1st round pick (currently 13) and future 1st and 2nd round picks. Fremantle also receive Melbourne's Rd 3 pick (tied to Haw - currently 44), and 4th round pick (tied to StK - 67).
19 Will Setterfield (CARLTON) to Essendon. Carlton receive Essendon's future 4th round pick. Essendon also receive Carlton's 4th rd pick (currently 68).
20 Izak Rankine (GCS) to Adelaide. Suns gain Adelaide's 1st rd pick (currently 5) and future 3rd and 4th picks. Adelaide also receive Suns' Rd 3 pick (tied to PA - currently 46) and future 4th pick (tied to Freo).
21 "Mega deal"
North Melbourne:
Out - Pick 1, Jason Horne-Francis, Future 3rd (Freo)
In - Picks 2 (WCE), 3 (GWS), 40 (WCE), 43 (PA - from Ade), Future 1st (PA)
West Coast:
Out - Pick 2, 40, Junior Rioli
In - Pick 8 (PA), 12 (GWS from Rich), Future 2nd (PA), Future 3rd (PA)
Port Adelaide:
Out - Pick 8, 43 (Ade), 53 (Mel), 57 (Syd), Future 1st, Future 2nd, Future 3rd
In - Jason Horne-Francis, Junior Rioli, Future 2nd (GWS tied to Col), Future 3rd (NM tied to Freo)
GWS:
Out - Pick 3, 12 (from Rich), Future 2nd (Col)
In - Pick 1, 53 (PA from Mel), 57 (PA from Syd)
Tue 11-Oct:
22 Jack Gunston (Haw) to Brisbane. Hawthorn receive Rd 3 pick from Brisbane (currently 48 - tied to Carlton) and Brisbane's future 4th rd pick.
23 Brodie Grundy (Col) to Melbourne. Collingwood receive Melbourne's Rd 2 pick (currently 27) in exchange.
24 Billy Frampton (Ade) to Collingwood. Adelaide receive Collingwood's future 3rd round pick.
25 Jack Bowes (GCS) to Geelong. Geelong also receive Gold Coast's pick 7. Gold Coast receive Geelong's future 3rd round pick.
26 Jacob Hopper (GWS) to Richmond. GWS receive Richmond's Rd 2 pick (currently 31) and future 1st round pick. Richmond also receive GWS 3rd rd pick (tied to Melb, currently 53), and GWS 4th rd pick (tied to Adelaide, currently 63).
Wed 12-Oct:
27 Aaron Francis (Ess) to Sydney. Sydney also receive Essendon's pick 42. Essendon receive Sydney's pick 37 and future 4th Rd pick.
28 Sam Weideman (Mel) to Essendon. Melbourne receive Essendon's pick 37. Essendon also receive Melbourne's picks 54 and 72.
29 Josh Schache (WBU) to Melbourne. Western Bulldogs receive Melbourne's future 4th round pick.
30 Lachie Hunter (WBU) to Melbourne. Western Bulldogs receive Melbourne's future 3rd round pick.
31 Josh Dunkley (WBU) to Brisbane. Western Bulldogs receive pick 21 along with Brisbane's future 1st and 2nd round picks, and Geelong's future 4th. Brisbane also receive the Bulldog's future 3rd and a future 3rd tied to Melbourne.
32 Ollie Henry (Coll) to Geelong. Cooper Stephens (Gee) to Hawthorn. Tom Mitchell (Haw) to Collingwood. Collingwood also receive pick 25 from Geelong. Hawthorn receive picks 41 and 50 from Collingwood.
33 Rory Lobb (Freo) to Western Bulldogs. Fremantle receive pick 30 and Western Bulldog's future 2nd round pick.
34 Jaeger O'Meara (Haw) to Fremantle. Lloyd Meek (Fre) to Hawthorn. Fremantle receive Hawthorn's future 4th round pick. Hawthorn receive Western Bulldog's future 2nd round pick.

Post Trade-week Trades (Selections only):
35 Oct 21: Pick Trade: The Brisbane Lions trade its Round Three Selection (56) to the Adelaide Crows for its Future Round Four Selection (tied to Fremantle)
36 Oct 21: Pick Trade: North Melbourne trade its Round Four Selection (59) and Future Round Two Selection to the Adelaide Crows for its Round Two Selection (23).
37 Nov 15: Pick Trade: North Melbourne trades round three selection (43) to Fremantle for Fremantle's future round four selection (tied to Hawthorn).

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Missed Out on trades:
Matt Crouch (Ade) - Adelaide looking to find him a new home.
James Rowe (Ade) - Possible move to Western Bulldogs.
Fischer McAsey (Ade) - Possible move to Carlton. Carlton apparently no longer interested.
Paddy Dow (Car) - Possible move to NM, Gee.
Caleb Poulter (Col) - Possible move to Gold Coast.
Nick Bryan (Ess) - Possible move, perhaps to Saints.
Brayden Ham (Ess) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere.
Liam Henry (Freo) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere, but is contracted.
Jeremy Sharp (GCS) - Possible move to Freo
Brayden Fiorini (GCS) - Possible move to Collingwood
Esava Ratugolea (Gee) - Several clubs interested. Geelong open to move. Perhaps GWS.
Lachie Whitfield (GWS) - GWS open to discussion
Nick Haynes (GWS) - GWS open to discussion
Kozzy Pickett (Mel) - Possible move to Port Adelaide. Melbourne say not happening.
Adam Tomlinson (Mel) - Melbourne open to move.
James Harmes (Mel) - Possible move to Essendon (and others). Melbourne say not happening.
Tarryn Thomas (NM) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere, possibly GCS.
Martin Frederick (PA) - Possible move to WCE
Mitch Georgiades (PA) - Possible move to WCE
Sam Hayes (PA) - Contracted, but Port may be open to offers elsewhere.
Ivan Soldo (Rich) - Possible move to GWS.
Jack Graham (Rich) - Likely now to stay at Richmond after exploring PA.
Riley Collier-Dawkins (Rich) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere.
Jack Bytel (StK) - Essendon interested.
Hunter Clark (StK) - Possible move to NM.
Brad Hill (StK) - Possible move to NM.
Lewis Mellican (Syd) - Looking for opportunities elsewhere.
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DFA and Retiree moves
Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti (ex-Ess) - looking to return from retirement, possibly to Freo, as SSP
Conor McKenna (ex-Ess) - looking to return from retirement, possibly to Gee in rookie draft
Liam Stocker (ex-Car) - Possible DFA to Essendon
Ciaran Byrne (ex-Car) - Possible return to Carlton as Cat-B Rookie - 5-Oct: Not happening, stays in Ireland
Francis Evans (ex-Gee) - Possible DFA to Port Adelaide
Quinton Narkle (ex-Gee) - DFA, several clubs interested
Kyle Hartigan (ex-Haw) - Possible DFA to St Kilda
Tom Phillips (ex-Haw) - Possible DFA to Essendon
Dan Hanneberry (ex-StK) - NM interested in bringing him out of retirement
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Draft Order and selection summary


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Not sure about this one at all. I am a fan of Setterfield and he could be transformative to Essendon which makes it even worse, for much cheaper.

Don't know what we are hoping to achieve with pick 62.

But the new regime hasn't yet done enough wrong to warrant any criticism so I'll refrain and just hope Austin knows what he is doing.

Though this is reminiscent of us culling all our key position depth a couple of years ago.
 

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We have 6 notable contracts to maintain and safeguard our elites, Weitering , Walsh, Cripps, Curnow, Mckay , Saad , the yoke around our necks is Williams , hopefully his impact & contribution to the team improves in 2023..
So that’s 7 heavy commitments, whilst smarting from Gov and Martin contracts fading quickly finally. Hope they impact much better in 2023 too.
So we need to be astute & copious with salary management , mid and fringe range players are on notice , list needs another significant clean out, as we can’t afford a big mediocre list , given our contractual obligations.
 
Magical_EddieBetts said:
Matt Rendell reckons we could get a 2nd round pick for Setters
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Good luck trying to prise that from Dodoro.

Stamos came up with a trade scenario on the main board that could work. * actually receive extra points for their bids on the Daveys, and we receive a pick upgrade. Of course the trick in dealing with ol' mate Dodoro is to make him think he's won the trade.

We currently have picks 66 and 68 so fairly unlikely we'd use both anyway.

Stamos said:
Could be something like #42 for Setterfield + #49 + #66
Points wise (and then picks wise) is better for you than trading #62, but we actually get something.
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Planet14 said:
Funny how some people can see a game in isolation, or a handful of games, as irrefutable evidence to contradict multiple seasons worth of evidence to the contrary.
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Yeah-it’s an interesting point you make. My hope for setters and Dow was that they were just taking longer to come on. Those at the club will have a far better idea.

Ultimately, we want to keep him but he is getting a better offer elsewhere. Good luck to him then, I reckon the vast majority would do the same in his situation.
 
El Topo said:
Setterfied cost what, two second rounders in 2018? Shocking value for the club.
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Hey, we got O'Dwyer as well, don't undersell it...

We gave up a pick in the early 40s (2018), and a future second (2019), which did admittedly look like it would be #19, given that Bolton's win-loss over the previous 18 months was 3-30...

GWS on-traded both of those picks, so value is hard to trace. The 2018 pick ended up being #45 (Dogs) after the trade period, they took mature-ager Ben Cavarra, who played 4 games in 3 years before being delisted at the end of 2021.

The 2019 pick ended up being #26 (thanks to Teague), and in the hands of the Swans. They took Gould, who has not yet played, although he is still contracted for 2023.

The most tangible output of GWS's on-trades is the upgraded 2019 second-rounder (#24) they used on Hill, who has played 41 games en route to Collingwood. (I was surprised to learn it was so many; I watch a fair bit of GWS and hadn't noticed him that often!)

If there's a "winner" out of all this, it's still probably us at this stage, with 50+ games out of Setterfield. GWS could argue that Hill has earned them a usable draft pick from Collingwood, whereas Setterfield probably won't do the same for us... but it seems like a low-stakes contest at this stage.
 
Ash24 said:
Rendell also thinks the Crows have the most dangerous forward line in the league.
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Haven't listened to any trade radio this year and feel much better for it...
Every other year, I'd listen all day every day...

Though have been on the road a lot and listen to SEN which is just as bad... :cryv1:
Only positive is Whaetley is on leave...
 
Blues_1864 said:
Hey, we got O'Dwyer as well, don't undersell it...

We gave up a pick in the early 40s (2018), and a future second (2019), which did admittedly look like it would be #19, given that Bolton's win-loss over the previous 18 months was 3-30...

GWS on-traded both of those picks, so value is hard to trace. The 2018 pick ended up being #45 (Dogs) after the trade period, they took mature-ager Ben Cavarra, who played 4 games in 3 years before being delisted at the end of 2021.

The 2019 pick ended up being #26 (thanks to Teague), and in the hands of the Swans. They took Gould, who has not yet played, although he is still contracted for 2023.

The most tangible output of GWS's on-trades is the upgraded 2019 second-rounder (#24) they used on Hill, who has played 41 games en route to Collingwood. (I was surprised to learn it was so many; I watch a fair bit of GWS and hadn't noticed him that often!)

If there's a "winner" out of all this, it's still probably us at this stage, with 50+ games out of Setterfield. GWS could argue that Hill has earned them a usable draft pick from Collingwood, whereas Setterfield probably won't do the same for us... but it seems like a low-stakes contest at this stage.
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Stick that up the choir that keeps singing "SoS stuffed the list build"
 

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Blues_1864 said:
Hey, we got O'Dwyer as well, don't undersell it...

We gave up a pick in the early 40s (2018), and a future second (2019), which did admittedly look like it would be #19, given that Bolton's win-loss over the previous 18 months was 3-30...

GWS on-traded both of those picks, so value is hard to trace. The 2018 pick ended up being #45 (Dogs) after the trade period, they took mature-ager Ben Cavarra, who played 4 games in 3 years before being delisted at the end of 2021.

The 2019 pick ended up being #26 (thanks to Teague), and in the hands of the Swans. They took Gould, who has not yet played, although he is still contracted for 2023.

The most tangible output of GWS's on-trades is the upgraded 2019 second-rounder (#24) they used on Hill, who has played 41 games en route to Collingwood. (I was surprised to learn it was so many; I watch a fair bit of GWS and hadn't noticed him that often!)

If there's a "winner" out of all this, it's still probably us at this stage, with 50+ games out of Setterfield. GWS could argue that Hill has earned them a usable draft pick from Collingwood, whereas Setterfield probably won't do the same for us... but it seems like a low-stakes contest at this stage.
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Super sleuth! Interesting read. Cheers
 
Kramer1 said:
All of which is getting away from my origunal point of course...which is that it would be unfortunate to lose Setterfield for nix. His value as midfield depth is not easy to replace
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I think that's the issue atm.. With us, he is midfield depth. At Essendon, he probably starts in the middle.
Can't begrudge a footballer for wanting to football I suppose.
 
Blues_1864 said:
Hey, we got O'Dwyer as well, don't undersell it...

We gave up a pick in the early 40s (2018), and a future second (2019), which did admittedly look like it would be #19, given that Bolton's win-loss over the previous 18 months was 3-30...

GWS on-traded both of those picks, so value is hard to trace. The 2018 pick ended up being #45 (Dogs) after the trade period, they took mature-ager Ben Cavarra, who played 4 games in 3 years before being delisted at the end of 2021.

The 2019 pick ended up being #26 (thanks to Teague), and in the hands of the Swans. They took Gould, who has not yet played, although he is still contracted for 2023.

The most tangible output of GWS's on-trades is the upgraded 2019 second-rounder (#24) they used on Hill, who has played 41 games en route to Collingwood. (I was surprised to learn it was so many; I watch a fair bit of GWS and hadn't noticed him that often!)

If there's a "winner" out of all this, it's still probably us at this stage, with 50+ games out of Setterfield. GWS could argue that Hill has earned them a usable draft pick from Collingwood, whereas Setterfield probably won't do the same for us... but it seems like a low-stakes contest at this stage.
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Great summary, B - think I might have been conflating this one with the McGovern trade
 
KohPhi said:
I think that's the issue atm.. With us, he is midfield depth. At Essendon, he probably starts in the middle.
Can't begrudge a footballer for wanting to football I suppose.
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If it means the likes of Carroll/Kemp etc (even if they play a different position of sorts) get more game time in the seniors next year, I am pretty comfortable with Setters moving on
I like him, a good honest foot solider, but felt like he wasn't ever going to take his game to the next level.

I am still all in for giving more kids more quality and significant game time in our evolving list and game plan.
 
KohPhi said:
I think that's the issue atm.. With us, he is midfield depth. At Essendon, he probably starts in the middle.
Can't begrudge a footballer for wanting to football I suppose.
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Oh for sure...and I'm not over thinking Setters value either. Good ordinary footballer...maybe scope for more. At 24 he needs opportunity.

I'm a bit...let's say alert not alarmed, with where we are at though. Jettisoned/jettisoning a fair whack of once highly rated youth, and exposing the next layer. We're banking on a reasonable amount of internal development, which to be fair, we've just never seen.

Plus we've lost a bit of ground to the Cats/Lions/Tigers and possibly Dees...at least on paper.

Reassure me dammit...
 
Kramer1 said:
Oh for sure...and I'm not over thinking Setters value either. Good ordinary footballer...maybe scope for more. At 24 he needs opportunity.

I'm a bit...let's say alert not alarmed, with where we are at though. Jettisoned/jettisoning a fair whack of once highly rated youth, and exposing the next layer. We're banking on a reasonable amount of internal development, which to be fair, we've just never seen.

Plus we've lost a bit of ground to the Cats/Lions/Tigers and possibly Dees...at least on paper.

Reassure me dammit...
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We catch up a lot of ground if we have some luck with injuries.

We're not as far behind as what it appears. In some ways I think we're ahead.

You can't bank entirely on health but surely we can be hopeful that it won't be that bad again
 

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