List Mgmt. 2023 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Key Dates:

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Draft Period, November 20–22

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Monday, November 20, time and venue TBA
• Trade Period (3), picks only: Tuesday, November 21, 5.45pm–6.30pm
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Tuesday, November 21, 7pm until completion
• Rookie Promotions: Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Wednesday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3.20pm
• Final List Lodgement*: Thursday, November 23, 4pm

* List lodgement dates are yet to be made public, so are approximate based on past history and the requirements of the AFL Rules. When lists are lodged, the number of players on the list must not exceed maximum list sizes. At the same time, clubs must provide the AFL with estimates of total player payments in the current and following year, which must prove the club is not and will not exceed the salary cap. (AFL Rules 5.3, 6.1, 6.8, 7.2, 7.9)

 

[Callipygian]

Just checked: Riley is contracted until end of 2025. We're dreaming.

 

[Maximumlnsanity]

Just checked: Riley is contracted until end of 2025. We're dreaming

Ah ****, guess it'll have to be a future 2nd then

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Ah *, guess it'll have to be a future 2nd then

We make an offer he cannot refuse and he asks for a trade. Will be a very good player.

 

[caesar88]

We make an offer he cannot refuse and he asks for a trade. Will be a very good player.

Are you suggesting we put John Longmire's head in his bed?

 

[Ticky009]

PMBangers has shared his first Top 20 assessment for those interested.

Draft Expert - PMBangers 2023 Draft Thread

Hello friends, enemies and inbetweeners, and welcome to another year of not only marvellous, but objectively correct, draft observations brought to you by PMBangers of Rookie Me Central. The 2022 class looked mighty impressive this time last year and fizzled out into a bit of an underwhelming...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Maximumlnsanity]

PMBangers has shared his first Top 20 assessment for those interested.

Draft Expert - PMBangers 2023 Draft Thread

Hello friends, enemies and inbetweeners, and welcome to another year of not only marvellous, but objectively correct, draft observations brought to you by PMBangers of Rookie Me Central. The 2022 class looked mighty impressive this time last year and fizzled out into a bit of an underwhelming...

www.bigfooty.com

No Reid replacement in our range... at the moment it looks like another year of best available

 

[hairy biker]

No Reid replacement in our range... at the moment it looks like another year of best available

Or we open the bank vault and the draft cupboard and go all in on an established player/up and comer that meets our needs.

Easier said than done and I'm sure we wouldn't be Robinson Crusoe with that idea, but hopefully some 'star' will fancy the prospect of getting out of the footy bubble, moving harbourside and joining a young exciting team than is likely to be about the mark for the foreseeable future. And get well paid in the process.

 

[BloodySwan]

No Reid replacement in our range... at the moment it looks like another year of best available

Doesn't matter when we use our picks for TDK.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

PMBangers has shared his first Top 20 assessment for those interested.

Draft Expert - PMBangers 2023 Draft Thread

Hello friends, enemies and inbetweeners, and welcome to another year of not only marvellous, but objectively correct, draft observations brought to you by PMBangers of Rookie Me Central. The 2022 class looked mighty impressive this time last year and fizzled out into a bit of an underwhelming...

www.bigfooty.com

Bangers list includes Sam Frangalas a 187 mid from Dandenong Stingrays. Ithink he might be the son of Gary who was a terrific player for us in the early 80s.

 

[Ticky009]

Bangers list includes Sam Frangalas a 187 mid from Dandenong Stingrays. Ithink he might be the son of Gary who was a terrific player for us in the early 80s.

For those wondering:

Australian Football - Gary Frangalas - Player Bio

australianfootball.com

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

For those wondering:

Australian Football - Gary Frangalas - Player Bio

australianfootball.com

Just to add. Gary was one of our Players who opted to stay and train in Melbourne rather than make the move to Sydney. Bernie Evans was another in that group. The Club eventually insisted the Melbourne based players move to Sydney or leave. Remember jobs and accomodation were hard to acquire in Sydney.

Gary ended up atRichmond and did a knee which stuffed his career.

One of the myths is that all the players at the time supported the Sydney move. This was not true. Some never forgave Browning and his role, the treatment of Mopsy Rantall and installation of Quade. Pete Morrison, a terrific ruck rover, said get stuffed and moved to the Pies.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Ha Wiki says Gary Frangalas has a son called Sam.

 

[Ticky009]

Ha Wiki says Gary Frangalas has a son called Sam.

yeah, just got it confirmed over in the Draft pages.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

yeah, just got it confirmed over in the Draft pages.

wow.. thanks. I wonder what the family’s relationship with us is like.

Best of luck to young Sam. Will closely watch his progress this year.

 

[Jewelsbon]

Or we open the bank vault and the draft cupboard and go all in on an established player/up and comer that meets our needs.

Easier said than done and I'm sure we wouldn't be Robinson Crusoe with that idea, but hopefully some 'star' will fancy the prospect of getting out of the footy bubble, moving harbourside and joining a young exciting team than is likely to be about the mark for the foreseeable future. And get well paid in the process.

Or a manbun wearing lad from out Homebush way decides he wants to play in front of actual passionate fans!

 

[Ticky009]

wow.. thanks. I wonder what the family’s relationship with us is like.

Best of luck to young Sam. Will closely watch his progress this year.

Seems more linked to the Tigers from what I've seen

 

[Bloods86]

No Reid replacement in our range... at the moment it looks like another year of best available

This is me already thinking about interactions I'll have with a few posters during the 2023 draft period.

 

[Callipygian]

No Reid replacement in our range... at the moment it looks like another year of best available

Mitchell Edwards is described as a ruck/forward and could be around our range.

I like the idea of trading up the draft and grabbing Archer Reid, if it's possible and we don't trade in someone more established. We've got two first rounders (including our future first) and Hawthorn's 2nd rounder, which is a fair bit of capital to work with. And we don't really need any more high draft picks this year or next. We can be contented for a year or two with the likes of Chad Warner, Caleb Mitchell, Corey Warner, Matt Roberts, Lachie Rankin etc.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Mitchell Edwards is described as a ruck/forward and could be around our range.

I like the idea of trading up the draft and grabbing Archer Reid, if it's possible and we don't trade in someone more established. We've got two first rounders (including our future first) and Hawthorn's 2nd rounder, which is a fair bit of capital to work with. And we don't really need any more high draft picks this year or next. We can be contented for a year or two with the likes of Chad Warner, Caleb Mitchell, Corey Warner, Matt Roberts, Lachie Rankin etc.

Lot of water to go under the bridge but seeing the lack of height in that group I suspect we would not be the only club with that idea. He does look handy. Be interesting to see how things develop as the season progresses.

 

[Bloods86]

Mitchell Edwards is described as a ruck/forward and could be around our range.

I like the idea of trading up the draft and grabbing Archer Reid, if it's possible and we don't trade in someone more established. We've got two first rounders (including our future first) and Hawthorn's 2nd rounder, which is a fair bit of capital to work with. And we don't really need any more high draft picks this year or next. We can be contented for a year or two with the likes of Chad Warner, Caleb Mitchell, Corey Warner, Matt Roberts, Lachie Rankin etc.

Doesn't need to be a first rounder. Been referred to above as a "Reid replacement", Reid being drafted at pick 38. Tom McCartin would have made a good KPF, drafted at 33.

We've also seen good/solid KPFs drafted from the 2nd round through to rookie selections. They may not be your Buddy or Hawkins etc, but you can be a successful team with a few good contributors (considering at least 1 of Logan, Amartey, McLean will surely have a long, decent career). E.g. Chol, Mihocek, Lewis, Ben Brown, Darling, Taberner of current players.

One thing though, given there's a host of people who'll discount any KPFs that aren't in the top 10, you're absolutely zero chance to find a solution to KPF shortages if you don't select any.

Hopefully Logan, Amartey and McLean have great years and we're confident of their place in the 22 after this year (assuming the latter two don't get poached based on limited opportunity). But then unless Owen was drafted for his forward potential, it's a position we should address this year, or we're relying purely on those 3 making it and zero depth, while the rest of the team are primed and ready (Ruck question marks aside).

 

[dosser]

Doesn't need to be a first rounder. Been referred to above as a "Reid replacement", Reid being drafted at pick 38. Tom McCartin would have made a good KPF, drafted at 33.

We've also seen good/solid KPFs drafted from the 2nd round through to rookie selections. They may not be your Buddy or Hawkins etc, but you can be a successful team with a few good contributors (considering at least 1 of Logan, Amartey, McLean will surely have a long, decent career). E.g. Chol, Mihocek, Lewis, Ben Brown, Darling, Taberner of current players.

One thing though, given there's a host of people who'll discount any KPFs that aren't in the top 10, you're absolutely zero chance to find a solution to KPF shortages if you don't select any.

Hopefully Logan, Amartey and McLean have great years and we're confident of their place in the 22 after this year (assuming the latter two don't get poached based on limited opportunity). But then unless Owen was drafted for his forward potential, it's a position we should address this year, or we're relying purely on those 3 making it and zero depth, while the rest of the team are primed and ready (Ruck question marks aside).

Wasn't this draft supposed to be full of good talls?

 

[Callipygian]

Wasn't this draft supposed to be full of good talls?

Hah! Good one.

You've gotta swallow a crate of salt and wash your mouth out every time you listen to one of those simpletons that spout that line every year.

 

[Bloods86]

Wasn't this draft supposed to be full of good talls?

"They just haven't come on"

"Next year will be better I swear, we'll get one then"

"If they aren't there next year, we can use our picks to just trade in a gun. Simples."

Tbf, my draft mood last year improved a lot with the rookie draft, us actually getting in a ruck/fwd (Owen) and someone I thought might be a good get in our pick in the 40s (Magor), then adding Edwards.

 

[Membling]

Actually...



This draft does have better talls than the last two, maybe since 2018

 

[anotherletdown]

Wasn't this draft supposed to be full of good talls?

It'll have 3 in the top 7/8... but yeah, no one else is really putting their hand up as yet