List Mgmt. 2023 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Key Dates:

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Draft Period, November 20–22

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Monday, November 20, time and venue TBA
• Trade Period (3), picks only: Tuesday, November 21, 5.45pm–6.30pm
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Tuesday, November 21, 7pm until completion
• Rookie Promotions: Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Wednesday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3.20pm
• Final List Lodgement*: Thursday, November 23, 4pm

* List lodgement dates are yet to be made public, so are approximate based on past history and the requirements of the AFL Rules. When lists are lodged, the number of players on the list must not exceed maximum list sizes. At the same time, clubs must provide the AFL with estimates of total player payments in the current and following year, which must prove the club is not and will not exceed the salary cap. (AFL Rules 5.3, 6.1, 6.8, 7.2, 7.9)

 

[TheMase]

I'm hoping the Dees have their eye on Jordon Sweet from the Dogs. Who has yet to put pen to paper, this is why I'm thinking our first will have to go to the Dees - who can then give something to the Dogs who will then bundle it up to get pick 4.

You heard it here first

So… you’re saying the Dogs might take Ladhams?

 

[Nuggetz]

Would not mind if we brought in a James Jordon type player.

 

[dosser]

Power have to be out of Grundy race now.

Brandon Zerk-Thatcher and Ratugolea both requested trades there.

Have to hold first next year after the JHF trade so will have very very limited collateral for a trade.

I'd say that Zerk-Thatcher has been told that McKay is arriving.

 

[Jewelsbon]

Mckay essendon bound

Wow, so after 8 years of ignominy at North, he decides to escape to ESSENDON
I'm thinking being part of something greater is not high on his list of must haves.

I wouldn't be sleeping on Francis. Has a much higher ceiling than we have seen

Totally agree, another pre-season with us and I think we will see a very different Francis to the one we saw this year.

Still would have liked a 2mt+ monster for the backline though

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I was all keen on McKay but knowing Dodo was keen has me convinced he is actually an overrated spud.

I think the only trade in Dodo has won was Stringer?

Stringer is a win? Highly generous at best its a blank even trade. Two early seconds for what he's achieved since being traded?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I'd say that Zerk-Thatcher has been told that McKay is arriving.

Would be asking about Zerk Thatcher, would much rather him than McKay anyway

 

[Ticky009]

Draft & Trade talk from Cal Twomey this morning

 

[Ticky009]

I'd say that Zerk-Thatcher has been told that McKay is arriving.

He's had a contract in front of him all year and hasn't signed - I think you need to switch the causality.

 

[Syd]

Mckay essendon bound

Obviously likes having September off

 

[LukeParkerno1]

He's had a contract in front of him all year and hasn't signed - I think you need to switch the causality.

Actually think there may be truth to it, mind you...you know my thoughts on McKay I won't clog the thread up with it. Needless to say I'd rather not get him.

 

[Wheresbuddy]

Do we send them Ladhams?

If they are happy to take him, do it in a heart beat. Happy even to pay a chunk of his salary just to get him out of our system.

 

[Adnico26Parker]

HSun Footy Podcast - Grundy/McKay discussion (based on this morning's reporting) from 11:00, draft chat from 17:00 mark

The Real Reason Brodie Grundy Could Choose Sydney - The Herald Sun Footy Podcast

Will Hogan is joined by Glenn McFarlane and Chris Cavanagh to chat the biggest talking points of the week, plus the latest in the world of trade and draft.

omny.fm

 

[LukeParkerno1]

If they are happy to take him, do it in a heart beat. Happy even to pay a chunk of his salary just to get him out of our system.

Don't agree, if we get Grundy it might be the thing Pete needs. We sell Ladhams we'd need TWO rucks not 1, that's highly risky.

 

[Ticky009]

Okay - so Tom Morris is very accurate usually. So this can give us some confidence

Port Adelaide officially out of Grundy race as Sydney trade a near-certainty

Tom Morris has the latest.

www.sen.com.au

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Okay - so Tom Morris is very accurate usually. So this can give us some confidence

Port Adelaide officially out of Grundy race as Sydney trade a near-certainty

Tom Morris has the latest.

www.sen.com.au

Happy with that, if we trade for Grundy that solves a lot of our main issues right now, and gives the young rucks and Pete time to work on their craft

 

[Kiama Chris]

Would be asking about Zerk Thatcher, would much rather him than McKay anyway

But is Zerk Thatcher better than Melican, Francis or possibly Arnold? He's not significantly bigger. Now, if you said Jordan Ridley....

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Okay - so Tom Morris is very accurate usually. So this can give us some confidence

Port Adelaide officially out of Grundy race as Sydney trade a near-certainty

Tom Morris has the latest.

www.sen.com.au

Is this the 4th source now?

Landsberger, McGowan, HSun (collaborative), Morris

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Don't agree, if we get Grundy it might be the thing Pete needs. We sell Ladhams we'd need TWO rucks not 1, that's highly risky.

This was a line from this morning's report:

"The Swans do have impressive young ruckman Lachlan McAndrew, who is contracted next year, but with Grundy and forward-ruck Peter Ladhams, it is the ideal ruck battery."

 

[Bonz]

Okay - so Tom Morris is very accurate usually. So this can give us some confidence

Port Adelaide officially out of Grundy race as Sydney trade a near-certainty

Tom Morris has the latest.

www.sen.com.au

That is MASSIVE for us.

Grundy solves a TONNE of our issues and is an exceptional player.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Okay - so Tom Morris is very accurate usually. So this can give us some confidence

Port Adelaide officially out of Grundy race as Sydney trade a near-certainty

Tom Morris has the latest.

www.sen.com.au

If as reported a very cluey pitch hitting on the point of difference that's likely to appeal. Also stressing what's in it for Rachael, who sounds like a very smart and independent woman. Completely honest too. Sounds to me like Port really misjudged Grundy's priorities.

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Follow up from Tom via Twitter re trade:

 

[Kiama Chris]

This was a line from this morning's report:

"The Swans do have impressive young ruckman Lachlan McAndrew, who is contracted next year, but with Grundy and forward-ruck Peter Ladhams, it is the ideal ruck battery."

Can't see Pete in front of Hayden. But that's just me.
Edit: but Joel might be a different matter.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

But is Zerk Thatcher better than Melican, Francis or possibly Arnold? He's not significantly bigger. Now, if you said Jordan Ridley....

Yeah well Ridley ain’t happening

 

[Bonz]

Can't see Pete in front of Hayden. But that's just me.

Hayden could be a full time forward and push Amartey out of the side.

This trade puts pressure on for positions as well.

 

[Bloods86]

That is MASSIVE for us.

Grundy solves a TONNE of our issues and is an exceptional player.

When in form, which has been up and down since his big deal was signed, and not just around injuries. And for maybe 2-3 years.

I see Grundy as a definite improvement on the alternatives we currently have, but he won't be challenging for AA selection like he used to.

I'd prefer we keep both Ladhams and McAndrew as well, otherwise we face the same potential issues if Grundy goes down or regresses further with age. No experienced backup and no long term solution. If we lose one of them then we would need to hit up a mature ager in the rookie draft. I'm also bringing in May regardless (not turning down a rare and likely rookie pick academy ruck that was decent backup in a dominant Allies side).