List Mgmt. 2023 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Key Dates:

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Draft Period, November 20–22

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Monday, November 20, time and venue TBA
• Trade Period (3), picks only: Tuesday, November 21, 5.45pm–6.30pm
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Tuesday, November 21, 7pm until completion
• Rookie Promotions: Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Wednesday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3.20pm
• Final List Lodgement*: Thursday, November 23, 4pm

* List lodgement dates are yet to be made public, so are approximate based on past history and the requirements of the AFL Rules. When lists are lodged, the number of players on the list must not exceed maximum list sizes. At the same time, clubs must provide the AFL with estimates of total player payments in the current and following year, which must prove the club is not and will not exceed the salary cap. (AFL Rules 5.3, 6.1, 6.8, 7.2, 7.9)

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I suspect Essendon are just about to offer him very large pay rise.
Let's be realistic.
Who else do they have to pay?
They must have a stack of free cap space.
So no way we could match that

Shiel is on a trashload. You’d assume they lose Heppell at least though

 

[rustycrate]

Shiel is on a trashload. You’d assume they lose Heppell at least though

Essendon are a basket case. They need to start again. Without their recruiter. The place is sick. Diseased. Toxic.
Cleanout needed. New coach. Good luck. Will take years. And Tears.

 

[WillHayward]

Shiel is on a trashload. You’d assume they lose Heppell at least though

Ud hope Heppell isn't on more than a pack of chips and a mars bar.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Ud hope Heppell isn't on more than a pack of chips and a mars bar.

He’s pretty solid to be fair.

 

[Bonz]

He’s pretty solid to be fair.

Yeah I have always liked Heppell as a player

Also think Essendons recent recruiting hasn't been bad.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Yeah I have always liked Heppell as a player

Also think Essendons recent recruiting hasn't been bad.

Yeah haven’t paid too much attention but they got Wright for a packet of chips

 

[momentbymoment]

Not a chance on earth

Nope ….
There is most definitely a chance.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Nope ….
There is most definitely a chance.

Lol haha

We ain’t moving a defender when we have very few

 

[momentbymoment]

I think we should be following the GWS fwds a little bit.

Cadman, Himmelberg, Hogan, Derksen and Riccardi can't all play together.

There is an argument that we should have been trading with GWS since their inception. However, I suspect the AFL ‘you can’t have everyone’ rule has made that impossible.

 

[momentbymoment]

Lol haha

We ain’t moving a defender when we have very few

Thanks for your opinion.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Thanks for your opinion.

Any time

 

[WillHayward]

The only one I’d want is Himmelberg

Cadman you might want but who knows at this stage.
Could be a dud.
Could be Jeremy Cameron.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Cadman you might want but who knows at this stage.
Could be a dud.
Could be Jeremy Cameron.

Yeah maybe

 

[Callipygian]

I've been been into big time Marshall since his Draft year.
Pretty sure he's from Albury.

That's right - he's a NSW boy and that's one reason why I've suggested him.

(I thought he was from Deniliquin and I just checked and that's right. Played TAC Cup for Murray Bushrangers.)

 

[SGBeach]

I’m pretty sure the name Paddy will be very much in the running. Assuming he has another successful (concussion free) year in defence.

I think you and I are the only two on here thats thinks this is a chance..
when you consider

• Buddy is a 99% chance of retiring & Reid is a good chance of retiring
• Logan needs support from a mature big man up forward.
• Quality KPFs are very expensive (both picks and $$) to trade and take years to develop from the draft

We're in the window now. We have a former p1 KPF in Paddy already on the list. I reckon if there was a worry about his concussion, he wouldn't be playing footy. We know he can read the play, is a good mark and and a good kick, which gives me confidence that Paddy can be a very good KPF.
I also reckon that 2 x McCartin make our back 6 a bit slow (just my opinion).
If Paddy moves forward, that opens up an intercepting role for Blakey (creating an opening on half back - theres a few could fill that role) or Francis or Gould.

A lot will depend on the development of players like Francis, Gould, Edwards down back.. and Amartey, Mclean up forward. Also who we may trade.

Interesting times to watch the final pieces of our list build

 

[SGBeach]

Does anyone think that we might trade out Stephens?
He would get us a good pick. Kinnear suggested last trade period that we will be more active in '23. There are plenty of young crew looking for a game on the wing, the Swans bat deep with outside players.
I guess how much other clubs offer him will be a factor,, also what our trade plans might be?

Personally want him to stay.. and would be very happy picking up Himmelberg as a free agent, taking picks 18 & 19 to the draft and then drafting Cabor and Cleary from the academy

 

[Punts]

Hope we get him

 

[Maximumlnsanity]

Does anyone think that we might trade out Stephens?

No. He's just locked in his spot in the team, why cash out now.

 

[sataris]

No. He's just locked in his spot in the team, why cash out now.

Because some people believe that picks are more valuable than established players.

Hint: These people are morons.

 

[Maximumlnsanity]

Because some people believe that picks are more valuable than established players.

Hint: These people are morons.

We paid Pick 5 for him anyway. It'd be stupid to trade him for less at this point, and nobody would offer more

 

[WillHayward]

Reid and Buddy gone.
Rampe plays taller than he actually is.
I just don't see Paddy making it as a key fwd.
I don't see McLean or Amartey making it although I think Amartey is still a chance.

Overall I think we need to recruit another tall KPP.

We haven't made any effort to Draft a KPP in the last two drafts so we now have absolutely no choice but to try and bring one in from another club which means paying big bucks.

 

[Maximumlnsanity]

Reid and Buddy gone.
Rampe plays taller than he actually is.
I just don't see Paddy making it as a key fwd.
I don't see McLean or Amartey making it although I think Amartey is still a chance.

Overall I think we need to recruit another tall KPP.

We haven't made any effort to Draft a KPP in the last two drafts so we now have absolutely no choice but to try and bring one in from another club which means paying big bucks.

I think a KPF is necessary next draft (or trade). Buddy and Reid will be gone (and Hick but that's not too relevant), and imo Amartey will be delisted. That leaves us just McLean, McDonald, with the only 3rd option being a resting ruck. That could work but we'd be better with a Fwd/Ruck like Reid than a Ruck/Fwd like Owen. Also even if it does work, we can't just have no KPF developing at VFL level, we'll get stomped. I haven't looked a lot into the 2023 draft class but I know there's always some tall ****ers in the late first round.

KPD can wait, the law firm are 23 & 26 plus there's Francis, Gould, and Edwards (and one more year of Melican).

 

[Dan87]

Paddy fwd is realistic imo

 

[RilesMacca]

Does anyone think that we might trade out Stephens?
He would get us a good pick. Kinnear suggested last trade period that we will be more active in '23. There are plenty of young crew looking for a game on the wing, the Swans bat deep with outside players.
I guess how much other clubs offer him will be a factor,, also what our trade plans might be?

Personally want him to stay.. and would be very happy picking up Himmelberg as a free agent, taking picks 18 & 19 to the draft and then drafting Cabor and Cleary from the academy

Still remember him saying in an SEN interview last year that he doesn't want to go anywhere at the moment. Loving Sydney and his teammates around him, the culture is strong. Maybe he'll head off down the track when he becomes a free agent, but he took some big steps last year. He is on the verge of taking his game up a notch this year if he can consistently rack up the footy. Him and J Mac are our main two wingers for the future, hopefully Juzzy gets his 2021 form back this season.

 

[anotherletdown]

Still remember him saying in an SEN interview last year that he doesn't want to go anywhere at the moment. Loving Sydney and his teammates around him, the culture is strong. Maybe he'll head off down the track when he becomes a free agent, but he took some big steps last year. He is on the verge of taking his game up a notch this year if he can consistently rack up the footy. Him and J Mac are our main two wingers for the future, hopefully Juzzy gets his 2021 form back this season.

McInerney would be up for trade before Stephens. But there are 10 others I'd chop before either of them.