Preview 2023 Elimination Final - Carlton vs Sydney Friday 8th Sept 7.50PM @ MCG

[Aphrodite]

Team is in …


IN: Patrick Cripps

9

Patrick Cripps

Age

29

Ht

195cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.9

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

16.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

5.8

5star

CL

7.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.9

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

3.8

4star

CL

6.3

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.4

4star

, Sam Docherty

15

Sam Docherty

Age

31

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.3

5star

K

15.1

5star

HB

7.2

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

CL

1.1

3star

D

22.6

5star

K

16.0

5star

HB

6.6

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

0.6

1star

CL

0.4

3star

D

11.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.4

4star

CL

0.6

3star

, Marc Pittonet

27

Marc Pittonet

Age

28

Ht

202cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.7

2star

K

2.9

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

22.3

5star

D

8.6

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

3.7

5star

HO

25.9

5star

D

5.8

2star

K

1.2

1star

HB

4.6

4star

CL

2.4

5star

HO

16.6

5star

OUT: Paddy Dow

15

Paddy Dow

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.4

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

, Corey Durdin, Zac Fisher

16

Zac Fisher

Age

26

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.0

5star

MG

384.0

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

384.0

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

3.0

5star

, Ollie Hollands

After starting the last game as sub, Caleb Marchbank has been elevated into the starting 22.

AFL team news: Who's in for the elimination final?

Some big Blues are back for the clash with Sydney.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Brodie Kemp	Jacob Weitering	Nic Newman
Half-backs:	Alex Cincotta	Mitch McGovern	Adam Saad
Centreline:	Blake Acres	Patrick Cripps	Sam Docherty
Half-forwards:	Jack Martin	Harry McKay	David Cuningham
Forwards:	Lachie Fogarty	Charlie Curnow	Matthew Owies
Followers:	Marc Pittonet	Adam Cerra	Sam Walsh
Interchange:	Matthew Cottrell	Tom De Koning	George Hewett
	Caleb Marchbank
Emergencies:	Paddy Dow	Zac Fisher	Ollie Hollands
	Jesse Motlop

 

[F_therest]

I don't subscribe to this notion that we can't play Harry in the ruck. The people who are saying this are the same people who said we can't play JSOS in the ruck, and look at what he has done in the past 2 years. And people are completely overrating the importance of a backup ruck. Is Harry great in the ruck? Not particularly, but if Daniher can go in and just be a presence then so can Harry. Daniher playing backup ruck means Brisbane don't have to play Big O and Fort together, both of which are pure rucks. If we bring in pitto then TDK gets plonked in the forward line where his output significantly drops.

Goodwin wanted to play with 2 elite level rucks, it took him about 17 rounds to realise it doesn't work, but better late than never and now look at gawn and the dees with van Rooyen/smith pinch-hitting. Luke Jackson has played his absolute best footy ever since darcy has been out of the side. Pittonet is a battler and a warrior but he can't contribute anything outside of stoppages. Once the bulldogs played English on his own and moved on from Stefan Martin you've seen how English has taken his game to a new level. Its well and truly time for Voss to put his 2 ruck fetish in the bin and give TDK the keys to the sole ruck.

I'm open to Harry learning how to ruck.

Disagree on Pitto though. Sure I can see a future possibility where TDK takes the no.1 ruck mantle and pushes him out, but I also see one where he cements himself as the no.1 too.

His actual ruck work and physicality is an asset to our stoppage game, which is vital to us. Nankervis won 3 premierships and don't see why Pitto can't be a similar player.

English may be the AA ruck but there were certainly games where he was well beaten and had dogs fans wishing he was more physical and stronger.

 

[F_therest]

Do you know what is more valuable than pressure in finals footy?
Goals.

Also, Motlop's defensive pressure is pretty good too.

It's not like we'd be trading out Fog's defensive work for a seagull.

 

[OnceWeWereKings]

Charlie AA but can’t believe that thug Greene was named Captain after he headlocked McGovern and refused to let go. He ain’t leadership material.

I’d go to war with Toby. Close to the best player in the comp.
When we were at our most successful, he’d be just one of the rat pack that we built our premiership teams on.
To pretend otherwise is hypocritical.

 

[Dadda Dave]

People shitting on Fisher for Sunday's game, yet Martin was clearly worst on ground. I'd be dropping him for Motlop.

Lol...not going to happen..
Most of our players were down on intent .
Had nothing to play for once Charlie had the Coleman in the bag..

 

[Santo the king]

Our edge over teams is our contested football and movement from contest. Pitto is key to this pillar of our game.
We are fortunate that acres, hollands and cottrell, plus walsh and doc are guys who can stay on the ground for long periods and allow us to have pitto or tdk on the pine, avoiding scenario of being too slow.

Pitto is a must in and by extension cotters and hollands must stay in too.

Motlop straight forward in for durdin.

Doc straight forward in for fisher.

Cripps obviously an in. But who comes out is more interesting. Hewitt has earned right, over dow. So dow comes out for mine and i cant see us go with 3 inside mids.

Sub likely dow but only if we intend to play him on ball, as he has limited ability to play another position.

Agree marchbank looked good when he came on last week.

Go blues!

 

[JustOneTime]

I'm firmly in the keep Fisher over Boyd camp. It is line ball so wont lose my rag over it if they choose Boyd but in my glass half full scenario Fisher can find the ball 25+ time, can gain 380-450 metres gained, and can tackle 4 times in a game when forced to. Pretty much all things Boyd cant do except tackles.

In my mind, winning a flag takes something special, so I'm plumping for having faith in fisher replicating 20+ disposals and metres gained along with score involvements.

I see a little bit in Boyd but he does a lot of sideways kicking slowing us down (terrible metres gained), and effectively has 8 effective disposals a match. Not that much to get excited about.

 

[KohPhi]

Flying in from Bali on Friday 2pm, will have a shower/get changed in the Q Club then head to the game.
Lucky to be in a box for the game..

CARNA BAGGERS!!!!

 

[I bleed Blue]

Flying in from Bali on Friday 2pm, will have a shower/get changed in the Q Club then head to the game.
Lucky to be in a box for the game..

CARNA BAGGERS!!!!

Enjoy the view

 

[teddy-hopkins]

From Almost Blues Brothers' podcast, they know what they are talking about

So did he lose 1 out of 2?

 

[Thrawn]

From Almost Blues Brothers' podcast, they know what they are talking about

Do those three wear fake noses? Or is it just the lighting?

 

[crippa1234]

I think we win this comfortably

Hopefully McKay has a better game , I’m not worried

Give bam bam a run his aggression is finals worthy

In: bambam , cripps, doc , boyd, motlop
Out: hollands , fisher, cincotta, durdin , marchbank

Keep pitto out another week

 

[RPCB]

All I want next Friday is to win at any cost. Our own ‘days without a finals win‘ stat is getting out of hand.

 

[Juddrockz]

The Fisher who’s averaged 27 possessions a game since coming back in to the team has checked out?

Yes. Were you at the game last week?

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Strong side, I would have Fog over Cuners, just

It’s a toss up.

We know what we’re going to get from Fog.

Cunners could win a norm smith, or be unsighted.

Can we afford that luxury?

He’s like footy crack - hard to stop using! ( I’m led to believe )

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Looks like (a week out) it’s going to be a wet one.

Does this change our two ruck plan?

How do we use Harry in the wet?

 

[DEliades]

Fisher was back to his usual antics last week.

Dump kicks out of the 50 which cost us a goal on turnover.

The 50 metre penalty brain fade.

I’m not sure he’ll cope with the finals atmosphere

 

[sbwan]

Looks like (a week out) it’s going to be a wet one.

Does this change our two ruck plan?

How do we use Harry in the wet?

Where did you see that?

 

[Opium]

Early Weather forecast not looking great. 5-10mm of rain predicted

 

[HarryFlashman]

Can’t wait for the “Great Wall of Weiters”
He will absolutely smash it & then come up with a not to subtle drive by on the AA selectors in the post match interview.
He will be massive!

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Where did you see that?

Weather zone app - usually pretty accurate. Reflects BOM.

It’s a week away & Melbs, so anything could happen

 

[thylacine60]

Flying in from Bali on Friday 2pm, will have a shower/get changed in the Q Club then head to the game.
Lucky to be in a box for the game..

CARNA BAGGERS!!!!

Just who the **** do you think you are?

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

Random thought…..could Marchy play the JSOS role?
Similar size, more athletic, better mark, probably not the same footy smarts, but could it be worth a try?
As others have mentioned, I think it’s detrimental to TDK when he has to share the duties with Pitto.

 

[Opium]

Early Weather forecast is not great. 5-10mm of rain predicted. Not sure what impact that has on selections.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

I’d go to war with Toby. Close to the best player in the comp.
When we were at our most successful, he’d be just one of the rat pack that we built our premiership teams on.
To pretend otherwise is hypocritical.

That's irrelevant to whether he should be Captain....

(which he shouldn't be frankly)

 

[BigFrizz36]

That's irrelevant to whether he should be Captain....

(which he shouldn't frankly)

He's kicked 60 goals as a small forward so clearly belongs in the team.

He's captained his club from finishing 16th last year to making the finals this year, set an example and pretty much won a couple of games off his own boot.

The only real opposition was Moore who is hardly inspiring and bontempelli who has captained a supposed top 4 list to missing the finals.

I get that people have pre conceptions about Toby. Based on this year's form and this year's leadership in my eyes he deserved to be the all australian captain.