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"For instance, it would have allowed Adelaide to list one of Rory Sloane or Taylor Walker as a veteran for 2024 and opened up another spot on their primary list. The idea was designed to keep veterans in the game without sacrificing a list spot that a youngster may have taken, with the veteran’s full payments still counted in the salary cap."
Roos target pick one, Dee to go on, big Dog to stay
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Just with the way that Geelong negotiated with Port over Esava, they would be a nightmare to deal with.
No way would they do a deal unless they 100% believed they won.
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Having looked across both the trades and potential draft haul I would say only the following clubs noticeably improved their list
North Melbourne - through handouts
West Coast - by having the number 1 pick, despite Shuey, Hurn and Naitanui retiring
Gold Coast - by having access to Academy players
Melbourne - gaining McAdam and Billings with a strong draft hand
GWS - lost no one and have pick 7
Hawthorn - have pick 4 and gained a handy player in Chol
Sydney - gained Grundy, Adams and Hamling who will all make a significant difference next year
Collingwood - gained Schultz
Clubs that tread water
Adelaide - improved draft hand but lost Doedee and McAdam
Western Bulldogs - have pick 5 at the expense of three first round picks
Essendon - gained Gresham and McKay but countered by gaining Duursma and losing BZT
Brisbane - gained Doedee but have crap picks
Carlton - gained Hollands but have mediocre picks
St Kilda - gained Hill but lost Gresham
Clubs that lost ground
Geelong - lost one of their only young key position players and Smith retired
Richmond - did nothing and have crap picks, several club legends retired
Fremantle - lost players and have crap picks
Port Adelaide - gained mediocre players at the cost of their entire draft hand including next year's first
North Melbourne - through handouts
West Coast - by having the number 1 pick, despite Shuey, Hurn and Naitanui retiring
Gold Coast - by having access to Academy players
Melbourne - gaining McAdam and Billings with a strong draft hand
GWS - lost no one and have pick 7
Hawthorn - have pick 4 and gained a handy player in Chol
Sydney - gained Grundy, Adams and Hamling who will all make a significant difference next year
Collingwood - gained Schultz
Clubs that tread water
Adelaide - improved draft hand but lost Doedee and McAdam
Western Bulldogs - have pick 5 at the expense of three first round picks
Essendon - gained Gresham and McKay but countered by gaining Duursma and losing BZT
Brisbane - gained Doedee but have crap picks
Carlton - gained Hollands but have mediocre picks
St Kilda - gained Hill but lost Gresham
Clubs that lost ground
Geelong - lost one of their only young key position players and Smith retired
Richmond - did nothing and have crap picks, several club legends retired
Fremantle - lost players and have crap picks
Port Adelaide - gained mediocre players at the cost of their entire draft hand including next year's first
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Yeah, I think this is the year where we get a few answers about some younger players.
A few haven't QUITE had their papers stamped, but it'll happen.
Nope. In order to free up a position which could be filled via the PSSP or MSD, players need to be on the "Inactive List". In order to be on the "Inactive List" they have to be out for the whole year. All of our long-term injured players have return dates mid-season, and are thus ineligible.
** I'm making quite a few assumptions here, about the workings of the Inactive List - given that there is precisely zero public domain documentation available (and yes, I've searched the AFL Policies section on the AFL website). I'm working on assumptions, based on what I've seen & read in various media releases (mostly from the AFC), not on a basis of fact.
The LTI list still exists, in the AFL documentation, but is largely irrelevant. It lost all relevance when the AFL decided to allow rookie listed players to be selected for AFL games, without a corresponding senior player going on the LTI list. Now, all that matters is the Inactive List, which is for players like Gibbs, McAsey, and Seedsman, who were out for the entire season.
I think Collingwood did the best
Moving Ginnivan on for Schultz is a substantial upgrade.
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Is Shoemberg expected back in the 2024 season ?? ....I thought it was a 12 month injury
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I like the look of Sydney. The players they gained are older but they kept their decent first round pick
Melbourne did good business swapping Grundy for McAdam and their draft hand is great for a finalist while Oliver and Petracca are still in their prime
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Because they need a LOT, and just taking one early pick doesn't help them improve very quickly.
And Mackie said they were looking at trades like this, so there's that too.
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I'd be shocked if Adelaide don't play finals in 2024.
Probably the 3rd best team in 2023 overall TBH. So many close losses to good sides.
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Probably the 3rd best team in 2023 overall TBH. So many close losses to good sides.
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Mackie's a wannabe .....a mouthpiece for others ....his performance during Trade Week was deplorable ....no, amateurish !
You can't believe anything that comes out of his mouth
Minimum expectation
The club's "End of Season Injury Update" says:
Injury Update: End of Season
My take on that is that they're hoping he'll start playing again, probably at SANFL level, well before the end of the 2024 season.
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I think people use the terms LTI and Inactive interchangeably.
It's an interesting question when we really think Schoenberg will come back. He may be out all year, but we may also not want him without a recovery goal.
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What everyone is overlooking is it was at the expense of their 2024 first.
Dodoro and Swans did best, Dodo "winning" trade period yet again!
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I would be surprised if the AFL dont gift wrap a good H&A draw for the Crows ensuring we make the 8 in 2024, after the goal fiasco in 2023.
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Sydney have strengthened their squad and with a good run with injury should be strong contender IMO in 2024.
They also looked better without Buddy in the side.
OK... slight correction to my previous rant about the LTI lists.
The LTI List is documented in both the CBA and AFL Rules documents. In the AFL Rules document it's covered in Section 26. The Inactive List is not mentioned in either of these key documents.
https://resources.afl.com.au/afl/do...nded-AFL-Rules-effective-28-February-2023.pdf
A senior player who is placed on the LTI list is ineligible to play for a minimum of 6 weeks. Putting a senior player on the LTI list allows the club to elevate a Cat B rookie to the senior list, thereby making them eligible for AFL selection.
There is no mention of replacing an LTI listed player via the PSSP or MSD.
The LTI List is documented in both the CBA and AFL Rules documents. In the AFL Rules document it's covered in Section 26. The Inactive List is not mentioned in either of these key documents.
https://resources.afl.com.au/afl/do...nded-AFL-Rules-effective-28-February-2023.pdf
A senior player who is placed on the LTI list is ineligible to play for a minimum of 6 weeks. Putting a senior player on the LTI list allows the club to elevate a Cat B rookie to the senior list, thereby making them eligible for AFL selection.
There is no mention of replacing an LTI listed player via the PSSP or MSD.
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It's possible that they may make that call mid-season next year, placing him on the Inactive List, thereby allowing us to make a selection in the MSD. It's much harder to see that happening in time to replace him via the PSSP.
Either way, placing Schoenberg on the Inactive List would not create a vacancy that we could fill via the ND, and doesn't solve our current problem of having 3x ND selections (in the top-20) and only 2x senior list vacancies to fill (1x if Parnell needs to be upgraded).
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Do we win the unspent cap award?
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It's been spent (or in the process) ...given we have a TPP 95% requirement each year
You can't buy an item, if there's not a "for sale" sign up .....you can try & convince the owner to sell ....but if the owner says no
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The one that concern's me right now is Brayden Cook.
After 3 years I just haven't seen it with him. Even after losing McAdam and Doedee, and with Schoenberg and Murray out, if i'm picking my best 22 for round 1, he's not in it. TBH he's not particularly close either, probably would struggle to make my emergencies list.
Gonna need the mother of all offseasons IMO. I hope for his sake he proves me really really wrong!
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