Review 2023 National Draft Review Thread II [McKercher, Z.Duursma, Goad, W.Dawson, Hardeman, Maley]

[The Filth Wizard]

Brady and Clarkson are having a dick measuring contest in Arden Street headquarters right now and I hope Clarkson wins.

He won't - Clarko has had his boundaries set.

 

[Chadwiko]

That article makes it sound like Clarkson and Rawlings aren't on the same page.

That's not a good thing, if accurate.

 

[My Left Foote]

Clarko’s eleventh-hour play to bring Curtin to Arden St​

Sam Landsberger, Jon Ralph


Alastair Clarkson spent more than two hours at draft prospect Daniel Curtin’s home in Perth on Sunday as the North Melbourne coach makes one final push for the key defender.

Clarkson spent months scouting this year’s draft prospects during his mental health absence from coaching and has fallen in love with the polarising key defender from Claremont.

The Curtin call holds the key to the top 10 with the prospect of a dramatic live trade on draft night the biggest curveball in years.

The Kangaroos hold picks No.2 and No.3 and are still expected to secure midfielders Colby McKercher and Zane Duursma.

But the draft decisions shape as a test of the power balance at Arden St.

The Roos have made clear that despite Clarkson’s intricate knowledge of this year’s talent that new recruiting boss Will Thursfield and football boss Brady Rawlings would be the final arbiters of the cherished early picks.

Clarkson was in Perth for James Brayshaw’s wedding to Lisa Christie on Friday and used the visit to conduct a final assessment of Curtin’s go-home factor.

They have been texting each other regularly since the draft combine.

Rivals still expect Curtin to be overlooked by the Kangaroos, and reach Greater Western Sydney’s first pick (currently No.7.)
The Giants will not draft Curtin – they have a stacked backline – and will spend Monday afternoon assessing offers for that pick should Curtin remain on the board.

Concerns over Curtin’s consistency and the position he would play at AFL level are why he is slipping down the order.

West Coast has offered its future first-round selection while Adelaide has thrown up a swap of first-round picks, but the Giants would also want collateral from the Crows in next year’s draft.

The Eagles’ offer appears the most lucrative, particularly with a suite of elite midfielders at the top of next year’s draft.

If the Eagles finish last again next season and the Curtin trade is completed then the Giants would have turned Jacob Hopper into the No.1 pick at the 2024 draft.

That would mean the Eagles would miss out on access to a gun midfielder in 12 months time as the star power of Luke Shuey (retired), Elliott Yeo and Tim Kelly fades.

The conundrum for the Giants is they are in the premiership window and so it would be a bold call to pass up the opportunity to secure a ready-made gun who could help unlock a flag next year.

Curtin’s manager, Jason Dover, believes he can be a genuine key defender and was one of the best West Australian prospects in a long time.

Dover has made clear to clubs that Curtin is a generational talent who could wind up like Jeremy McGovern.

But the brutal truth on Curtin is that some recruiting experts believe he picks and chooses his moments on the field.

Curtin played as an inside midfielder and a key defender this year and some have likened him to Matthew Pavlich.

Others say he looks a nice type … and also point out as did Jarrod Brander who was drafted by West Coast at pick 13 in 2017 and delisted 22 games later.

There are fears Curtin is not capable of being a key defender or an inside midfielder at AFL level.

The Claremont kid would need to be an elite intercept mark, hard to beat one-on-one and a great kick – much like Darcy Moore is – to guarantee top-10 selection for one club.

Instead some clubs view him more as a third tall defender, and taking that player with an early pick appears risky.

But one expert said as much as they would not draft Curtin in the top three, North Melbourne needed Curtin more than another midfielder.

Hawthorn flew Curtin to Melbourne last week for a tour of its headquarters in what must be a whirlwind experience for the 18-year-old.

That is the most bizarre article.

Clarko met with Curtin so we could take him BUT we’re expected to take McKercher and Duursma BUT Clarko really likes Curtin BUT Clarko doesn‘t have the final say on who we draft BUT some people say Curtin could be like Pavlich BUT some other people say he picks his moments BUT his manager says he’s generational like Jeremy McGovern BUT other people say he won’t be a KPD or a mid BUT he could be a third tall BUT a top 10 pick is too much for a third tall BUT Hawthorn flew him to Melbourne BUT North need him the most.

 

[justroyal]

How do we get Curtin without picks 2 & 3?

Remember that Thurs whatever his name is, said to twomey that using the future first pick was a last resort. Whatever he meant by that

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

That is the most bizarre article.

Clarko met with Curtin so we could take him BUT we’re expected to take McKercher and Duursma BUT Clarko really likes Curtin BUT Clarko doesn‘t have the final say on who we draft BUT some people say Curtin could be like Pavlich BUT some other people say he picks his moments BUT his manger says he’s generational like Jeremy McGovern BUT other people say he won’t be a KPD or a mid BUT he could be a third tall BUT a top 10 pick is too much for a third tall BUT Hawthorn flew him to Melbourne BUT North need him the most.

If I had to guess, I'd say we've given Ralph the story to scare WC into a trade for Reid.

 

[kool kangas]

Hmmm. If this is to be taken at face value, does Clarko force Snoz to give up 2 or 3 for Curtin? Does Snoz say cheers m8, you stick to coaching.

Or the compromise position of trading for pick 7 and getting him.

Its begining to sound like picks are not going to be a problem for use to get Curtin at any cost. So l'm think if WC offer F1st then we will do the same however the rest of our hand is much better than they have . So l'm thinking that we may end up with Mckercher, Duursma and Curtin....

 

[kool kangas]

Remember that Thurs whatever his name is, said to twomey that using the future first pick was a last resort. Whatever he meant by that

Last resort will be matching wc F1st pick with our F1st pick...

 

[Flawed Genius]

Last resort will be matching wc F1st pick with our F1st pick...

Seems the way that article's leaning

 

[My Left Foote]

That article makes it sound like Clarkson and Rawlings aren't on the same page.

That's not a good thing, if accurate.

That article was some of the worst AFL journalism I’ve read in a long time, and the bar is very low, Sam and Ralph trying to to create one final click bait push before draft night.

 

[Disco Dew]

So l'm thinking that we may end up with Mckercher, Duursma and Curtin....

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

That article was some of the worst AFL journalism I’ve read in a long time, and the bar is very low, Sam and Ralph trying to to create one final click bait push before draft night.

God damn it, it works.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Moti]

If we really wanted Curtin, you would trade 3 to Dees for 6 and 11.

 

[The Y Factor]

He won't - Clarko has had his boundaries set.

Correct- Only way it happens is if it’s a consensus move.

I’d love to guzump WC for 7 and take him , just for the lips even. It would be huge

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Clarko cant be making these decisions.

For all the grief Rawlings caught with the CCJ trade it was Noble that made the push for building fair trade partners.

 

[My Left Foote]

If I had to guess, I'd say we've given Ralph the story to scare WC into a trade for Reid.

West Coast will take Reid at pick 1 nothing more certain.

 

[bengrina]

Seems the way that article's leaning

Whose future first would appear more appealing to other clubs? What are people’s thoughts on trading our future first for Curtin?

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Correct- Only way it happens is if it’s a consensus move.

I’d love to guzump WC for 7 and take him , just for the lips even. It would be huge

Getting through this draft and bringing in McK, Duursma AND Curtin would be an incredible effort as long as our F1 was intact. Give me a way to get Curtin and Leake though, sell the farm with the F1.

 

[The Y Factor]

Remember that Thurs whatever his name is, said to twomey that using the future first pick was a last resort. Whatever he meant by that

He said we’d like to keep it but he did actually put it on the table. So it’s in play.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Darcy Wilson at 20. Schwing

McKercher, Duursma, Wilson, Hardeman & M.Edwards. Huge draft

So all up:

Pick 2: Inside speedster with lots of uncontested accumulation ability

Pick 4: A pseudo-CHF with awesome marking ability, skills and smarts

Pick 20: An outside mid/HB

Pick 22: A running HB

Last pick: A skilled tap ruck

On top of Stephens and Fisher, do you think we have enough outside/HB flankers? Considering that before the cull, a third of our list was back flankers…

 

[The Y Factor]

Whose future first would appear more appealing to other clubs? What are people’s thoughts on trading our future first for Curtin?

My thought is we’d need to give them 18 or something on top to beat the WC offer. Both F1’s are basically the same I would think

 

[Flawed Genius]

I don't think there's a way to get Curtin AND McKerch/Duursma without the F1. But you could get someone else's F1 back.

F1 for #8 & GWS F1?

~1-4 2024 for #8 & ~6-10?

 

[The Y Factor]

Getting through this draft and bringing in McK, Duursma AND Curtin would be an incredible effort as long as our F1 was intact. Give me a way to get Curtin and Leake though, sell the farm with the F1.

Surely no chance without the future first.

 

[Kanga Glory]

It could be a long trade night if all this bidding and attempting to get extra picks happen

 

[The Nostradamus]

Just a list spot reminder we have 6 picks in the ND atm pre any pick upgrades/swaps

7 list spots to fill across the senior and rookie list (or might leave 1 spare for SSP and have train ons)