Review 2023 National Draft Review Thread II [McKercher, Z.Duursma, Goad, W.Dawson, Hardeman, Maley]

[SKD]

If we go in with 2 & 3, surely we take our surest bet at #2, and a bigger risk/reward at #3?

Who do you think that might be?

McKercher and Curtin

 

[Deleted member 98541]

Yes, IMO

If Hawks pick Watson....****. looks bad going off the BF wraps for Duursma.

Would be Reid and Osullivan/Caddy then?

Assuming we have the following board:

REID
MCKERCHER
WATSON
O'SULLIVAN

DUURSMA?
CADDY?

 

[Bashnek]

our midfielders will immediately look better if our forward line can hold the ball there more than 20 seconds before it rebounds, desperately need some speed & pressure in there.

 

[Psicosis]

If Hawks pick Watson....*. looks bad going off the BF wraps for Duursma.

Would be Reid and Osullivan/Caddy then?

Assuming we have the following board:

REID
MCKERCHER
WATSON
O'SULLIVAN

DUURSMA?
CADDY?

I’d be fine with Duursma. Most recruiters know who is going where. I mean Twomey got something like the first 13 right last year. Alternatively we hold 1 and 3 whilst WC hold 2 and 5, assuming Hawks won’t want Curtin, but again that’s a risk for them. As I’ve said, the pick numbers bar 5 won’t matter.

 

[shinboner magic]

I want mckercher

 

[RHLK]

McKercher and Curtin

Reckon McKercher & Sanders 50/50, but McK more suited.*

Curtin .

*exclusively online-based opinion.

 

[Ura]

The draft is falling into tiers of player’s currently.

Reid
Walter

Mckertcher
Curtin
Dursma
Watson
Read

Caddy
Saunders
Sully

If we end with 2-3 it’s 2 of those. Everyone will have different opinions on that but the club really isn’t to wrong getting any of those guys.

That being said shocked if Mckertcher gets past us. Shocked if Dursma gets past Hawks

 

[Psicosis]

Based on Bradys video, the deals are already done.

 

[Deleted member 98541]

Based on Bradys video, the deals are already done.

So your saying, Brady should never play cards then? Lol

As Ura posted 1 above, 2 & 3 isn't a bad thing.

If there is a trade, it comes down to what else was lost moving 2,3 into 1,5. Theoretically, it should be very little if anything.

Can we still trade up in the aftermath and go with 1,5,10 ?

 

[Psicosis]

So your saying, Brady should never play cards then? Lol

As Ura posted 1 above, 2 & 3 isn't a bad thing.

If there is a trade, it comes down to what else was lost moving 2,3 into 1,5. Theoretically, it should be very little if anything.

Can we still trade up in the aftermath and go with 1,5,10 ?

I look forward to finding out

 

[jay317]

Given I've seen hardly anything of him, how does Curtin compare as a defender to say Weitering who is the same height?

 

[tiltraise]

Reposting RF08 Tier list below. Perhaps we could add this and souup tier list to top page?

Tier 1
______
Jed Walter
Harley Reid
Colby McKercher

Tier 2
______
Ryley Sanders
Daniel Curtin
Zane Duursma
Nick Watson
Connor O'Sullivan

Tier 3
_______
Nate Caddy
Ethan Read
Jake Rogers
Darcy Wilson
Mitch Edwards

Tier 4
_______
Joel Freijah
Caleb Windsor
Oliver Murphy
Jordan Croft
Riley Hardeman
Clay Hall
Will McCabe
Arie Schoemaker
Archer Reid
Angus Hastie
James Leake
Harry DeMattia

Next Best
_______
Logan Morris
Jack Delean
George Stevens
Nathan Philcatides
Koltyn Tholstrup
Archie Roberts


If we could get McKercher plus 2 players from tier 2 that would be a good result for mine.

 

[giantroo]

Reposting RF08 Tier list below. Perhaps we could add this and souup tier list to top page?

Tier 1
______
Jed Walter
Harley Reid
Colby McKercher

Tier 2
______
Ryley Sanders
Daniel Curtin
Zane Duursma
Nick Watson
Connor O'Sullivan

Tier 3
_______
Nate Caddy
Ethan Read
Jake Rogers
Darcy Wilson
Mitch Edwards

Tier 4
_______
Joel Freijah
Caleb Windsor
Oliver Murphy
Jordan Croft
Riley Hardeman
Clay Hall
Will McCabe
Arie Schoemaker
Archer Reid
Angus Hastie
James Leake
Harry DeMattia

Next Best
_______
Logan Morris
Jack Delean
George Stevens
Nathan Philcatides
Koltyn Tholstrup
Archie Roberts


If we could get McKercher plus 2 players from tier 2 that would be a good result for mine.

Added to OP.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Caddy’s champ performance still concerns me. He didn’t stand up like some other forwards ir. Morris and Rudd were more impressive when it counted. Thoughts?

Morris only played the one good champs game. Two of them he played defence and didn’t look that flash down there. Rudd is okay but VFL will be his level, just doesn’t have an athletic point of difference unfortunately.

Given I've seen hardly anything of him, how does Curtin compare as a defender to say Weitering who is the same height?

Weitering was a one on one specialist as a junior. Very much defensively minded first, intercept 2nd. Relied on his body positioning and reading of the play.

Curtin plays more as a third tall link up player, he does however have the capacity to play purely as a stopper as he showed when he went head to head with Walter at the championships.

I really wish we seen more of Curtin ad a genuine defender this year, rather than so much time in the midfield. Imo he isn’t the next Bont or Cripps.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

So your saying, Brady should never play cards then? Lol

As Ura posted 1 above, 2 & 3 isn't a bad thing.

If there is a trade, it comes down to what else was lost moving 2,3 into 1,5. Theoretically, it should be very little if anything.

Can we still trade up in the aftermath and go with 1,5,10 ?

In fairness to Brady if the deals are done there’s no point even looking at cards.

 

[shinboner magic]

What deals are done Psicosis

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

1 Reid NM
2 Walter GCS
3 McKercher WCE
4 Curtin WCE
5 Duursma HAW
6 Watson NM

?

Taking into account that I think that the Wardlaw,Sheezel, pick 14>JHF, Pick 1 trade worked out well for us, we did effectively give up 2 PICK 1s.

WC are giving up 1 pick 1, and in return getting a similar haul.

That does not seem fair.

 

[DuckYeah]

Taking into account that I think that the Wardlaw,Sheezel, pick 14>JHF, Pick 1 trade worked out well for us, we did effectively give up 2 PICK 1s.

WC are giving up 1 pick 1, and in return getting a similar haul.

That does not seem fair.

Yes but not the best kid in the draft due to father sons. This year the best kid in the draft is a legitimate pick 1

 

[roos_fanatic08]

I was really keen on adding another elite runner with pick 14. Someone like Wilson, Freijah or Windsor.

With Stephens & Fisher joining us I think that need for outside run is less of a priority. In the event we keep 14 & 19 I’m tipping we are going to go tall.

 

[Psicosis]

What deals are done Psicosis

Wish I knew the exact deals. Brady cops his fair whack of criticism on here (largely from the Noble era), but where I think he's very good is his creativity with pick swaps. I look forward to seeing what he can do with what is a godfather hand of picks.

 

[4cunningTonneTruck]

I'd rather overpay for pick 1 than pick 5

 

[roos_fanatic08]

I'd rather overpay for pick 1 than pick 5

I think we’ll use our future picks to get pick 10 off GC once the WB & GC trade goes down. I can’t see us competing with the dogs for pick 5

 

[roos_fanatic08]

This would be somewhere around my dream scenario…

Start with:

2023: 2, 3, 14, 19, 40, 52, 60

2024: F1, PP1, PP2, F2, F3, F4

Trade PP1 & PP2 to GC once they acquire WB pick 10. GC will need points next year as the have Leo Lombard and a few others that will once again be taken in the top 30.

Pick 52 for Dylan Stephens

15

Dylan Stephens

Age

23

Ht

184cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

4star

CL

0.0

1star

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

4star

CL

0.0

1star

Pick 40 & Pick 60 for GC Pick 35. Pick 35 to Carlton for Zac Fisher

16

Zac Fisher

Age

26

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.0

5star

MG

384.0

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

384.0

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

3.0

5star

.

Future 3rd to GC for Caleb Graham

46

Caleb Graham

Age

24

Ht

194cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

5.5

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.5

4star

T

1.0

3star

MG

63.0

1star

D

5.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

63.0

1star

D

10.0

3star

K

5.5

3star

HB

4.5

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

1.0

3star

MG

63.0

1star

Trade Pick 10 to GWS for Pick 6 and Hayes Salary dump.

Go to the future drafts with:

2023: 2,3,6,14 & 19.

2024: F1, F2 & F4.

2023
Pick 2: Curtin
Pick 3: McKercher/Watson
Pick 6: Caddy/O’Sullivan
Pick 14: Wilson/Windsor/Freijah
Pick 19: Edwards/Reid/Schoenmaker
Rookie 1: Ethan Phillips

2023 ins: Stephens, Fisher, Graham, Haynes, Curtin, McKercher, Caddy, Wilson, Edwards & Ethan Phillips

2024 still have F1, F2, F4.

 

[SheezNuts]

If we managed to get GC pick..

All three of Mckercher/Curtin/Watson would be an incredible result.

 

[Sphynx]

I was really keen on adding another elite runner with pick 14. Someone like Wilson, Freijah or Windsor.

With Stephens & Fisher joining us I think that need for outside run is less of a priority. In the event we keep 14 & 19 I’m tipping we are going to go tall.

Based on Rawlings interview, I'm pretty much ignoring our current draft hand and thinking about possibilities for the next fortnight.

I'm hoping it's just a case of targeting Pick 4/Pick 10 with the PP's etc, but I'm not holding my breath.

It sounds extremely unlikely we are going to hold either Pick 2 or Pick 3 come draft night imo.