Preview 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Collingwood Sunday May 21 3:20PM @ MCG

[Aphrodite]

Team is in ...


IN: Jordan Boyd
OUT: Alex Cincotta

SUB: Hewett

Ed Curnow has been elevated to the starting 22, while George Hewett

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George Hewett

Age

28

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.7

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

10.3

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

3.3

5star

D

13.8

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

9.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.4

3star

has been confirmed as starting sub.

AFL team news: Boyd back, sub confirmed

Carlton has named its Round 10 team for the clash with Collingwood.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Sam Docherty	Lewis Young	Nic Newman
Half-backs:	Mitch McGovern	Jacob Weitering	Adam Saad
Centreline:	Blake Acres	Patrick Cripps	Oliver Hollands
Half-forwards:	Ed Curnow	Harry McKay	Jack Silvagni
Forwards:	Corey Durdin	Charlie Curnow	Jesse Motlop
Followers:	Marc Pittonet	Adam Cerra	Sam Walsh
Interchange:	Jordan Boyd	Matthew Cottrell	Matthew Kennedy
	Matthew Owies
Sub:	George Hewett
Emergencies:	Alex Cincotta	Tom De Koning	Zac Fisher

 

[Arr0w]

Bounce the ball ffs

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

I hate the build up to these games tbh. Losing to both this mob and Essendon is a horrible feeling, but on the other side of that they're awesome games and occasions when you win.

I just hope that Vossy has the boys ready to get at Collingwood later on, and hopefully we'll be celebrating an epic and memorable Carlton win. Carn you mighty Baggers!

 

[tarczonandjane]

I thought this game was a bit of a turning point for them last year. If we are smart, we’ll seize the same opportunity today.

 

[Red_man2008]

I thought this game was a bit of a turning point for them last year. If we are smart, we’ll seize the same opportunity today.

In 2018 Collingwood were 0-4 playing us in round 5 I believe. Similar turning point for them then too. Went on to play in the GF

 

[Benga]

Cowan is a long way ahead of stocker at the same age.

Basically Cowan is taller, a better runner, and possibly a better kick. Better penetration at least. Also has the physicality that many liked in stocker.

At this early stage the selection of Cowan looks very good.


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Stocker is 23, played 30 games and is five years older than Cowan who’s played 6 games in his debut year and only turned 18 last Dec.

Should come back in 5 years and do a comparison over a larger sample of games. I think Cowan will turn out to be the best of our 2022 draft picks imo, and a better defender than Stocker.

Cowan runs rings around the Carlton version of stocker lol

It’s a funny little bias we have, the way we convince ourselves something we have lost was never any good anyway.

To be clear, I’m not saying Cowan will be better than Stocker, or visa versa, but Stocker averaged 3 more touches .5 less marks, and .3 more tackles. From a similar sample size in his first season.

Personally I agree, I think Cowan has slightly more potential. Is that an argument for delisting one and drafting the other? Not particularly imo.

 

[Benga]

Hill has largely been a winger across his whole career and just checking his heat maps in his last few games they resemble that of a winger. And with Cowan/Stocker - Cowan has been on our list for 6 months, Stocker was there for 4 years so not sure how we can compare who looks more promising but we can't say Stocker wasn't given a chance. All my posts were saying was that he should have been kept as depth but I didn't see him as a 200-gamer for us - not sure what part you are disagreeing with.

Go look at his games from last year then. His role has changed this year under a new coach. Regardless, the point remains.

I disagree that he couldn’t be a 200 game player for us. I already highlighted that our hbf are getting on in age. If he’s going to play 200 for the saints then why not us?

It’s just another poor list management decision.

Anyway, not the place for this discussion.

 

[I AM CARLTON]

I wanna see Pitto destroy Cox. I want Cox begging for his mummy by half time!

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

It’s just another poor list management decision.

Whilst I agree I moreso think it was just more piss poor development and progression planning that saw a player get moved on by necessity - he no longer wanted to be here. So yeah bad result but I'm more leaning towards the way Carlton develops players, negatively.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

The way the matches have fallen this week, even a loss and we are only a game out of the 8.

 

[myblueroan]

Please don’t put any sort of pressure on our boys.

 

[AndyLucimitis]

Go look at his games from last year then. His role has changed this year under a new coach. Regardless, the point remains.

I disagree that he couldn’t be a 200 game player for us. I already highlighted that our hbf are getting on in age. If he’s going to play 200 for the saints then why not us?

It’s just another poor list management decision.

Anyway, not the place for this discussion.

My opinion from ‘reading between the lines ‘ on the Stocker decision was that he wasn’t liked by the players.


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[ray8182]

It’s a funny little bias we have, the way we convince ourselves something we have lost was never any good anyway.

To be clear, I’m not saying Cowan will be better than Stocker, or visa versa, but Stocker averaged 3 more touches .5 less marks, and .3 more tackles. From a similar sample size in his first season.

Personally I agree, I think Cowan has slightly more potential. Is that an argument for delisting one and drafting the other? Not particularly imo.

It’s a funny little bias we have for players who show physicality. Never mind if that player can’t run and as a result struggles to run both ways and gets continually run down when disposing of the ball ultimately rushing the kick. That is what we watched for 4 or 5 years.


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[CCurnow3votes]

Going to be wet not sure who that advantages more.. should neutralise their speed but also makes it harder for our forwards.

Both of our key forward are good below their feet. Especially Charles.

Hopefully stops Collingwoods intercept kicking game through the middle.

We need to run it by hand more…I know this goes without saying.

 

[morningbrown]

A bit of aggression wouldnt go astray today

 

[CCurnow3votes]

I hope we line up as listed.
Cripps, Cerra and Walsh onball. Weitering CHB. Docherty back.
That would be a good start. I really do hope Ed can stand up and has a job tomorrow.

Wet weather perfect for Ed’s kick around the corner to space … or whoever happens to be there.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Getting excited people.

Will be tipping the mighty Baggers as I expect all true believers to do.

We owe these bastards, big time.

 

[Aphrodite]

Getting excited people.

Will be tipping the mighty Baggers as I expect all true believers to do.

We owe these bastards, big time.

Menu for the day numb3rs

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Both of our key forward are good below their feet. Especially Charles.

Hopefully stops Collingwoods intercept kicking game through the middle.

We need to run it by hand more…I know this goes without saying.

Gee the Dockers put together some fantastic handball 'strings' of play yesterday.

Made the Cats look very ordinary.

 

[gbatman]

Who's our second ruck this week? Silvagni or Young?

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Both of our key forward are good below their feet. Especially Charles.

Hopefully stops Collingwoods intercept kicking game through the middle.

We need to run it by hand more…I know this goes without saying.

Agree will turn it into a territory game and make it even harder to exit D50, Harry will need to play further up the ground to help.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Who's our second ruck this week? Silvagni or Young?

I think this depends if Cox plays forward or goes into the ruck, we can not leave a backline exposed sending Young there and allowing Coc to mark uncontested

 

[Doro]

Winning contested ball is meaningless with the stoppage structures we've been using. Hack kicks are a 'contest win' but they do jack s**t really.

Need to harness the contest wins into an actual real way of moving the ball forward and keeping possession.

Yeah, opposition planning has minimized the damage we can do at stoppages as we are a one trick pony. The W.C game was the only time we were getting out the front of the stoppages, the better sides have been setting up to prevent it.

 

[Ald Gardiner]

We’ve won 8 of our last 22, so it’s reasonable to conclude we’ve been a bottom 8 team for 12 months. Watching them lately it certainly feels that way.

We just don’t have enough dangerous and reliable goal kickers to make the 8 this year, but today is about an honest performance that at least gives us hope for the future - that’s all I want out of today.

Pies have a strong winning culture and take far more pride in how they approach their footy, so let’s just see how our lads can measure up today.

 

[Accidental genius]

A bit of aggression wouldnt go astray today

Absolutely, run your guts out with and without the ball and tackle with intent and great impact.

 

[ESKIE]

Menu for the day numb3rs

I’m tipping something slow cooked, menthols and fancy coffee