Preview 2023 Rd 12 Carlton vs Melbourne Friday June 2 7:50PM @ MCG

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Team is in …





IN: Alex Cincotta, Zac Fisher

16

Zac Fisher

Age

26

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.0

5star

MG

384.0

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

384.0

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

3.0

5star

, Lochie O'Brien

4

Lochie O'brien

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

9.3

4star

HB

3.9

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.3

3star

CL

0.7

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

3.2

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.4

4star

CL

1.0

3star

, Jack Silvagni

1

Jack Silvagni

Age

26

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

, Lewis Young

33

Lewis Young

Age

25

Ht

202cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

197.9

3star

D

4.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

26.0

1star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.2

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

181.6

3star

OUT: Corey Durdin (knee), George Hewett

29

George Hewett

Age

28

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.7

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

10.3

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

3.3

5star

D

13.8

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

9.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.4

3star

(concussion), Ollie Hollands (collarbone), Nic Newman

24

Nic Newman

Age

31

Ht

186cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.7

5star

K

13.7

5star

HB

5.9

4star

M

5.5

5star

T

3.3

5star

MG

400.8

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

MG

157.0

3star

D

22.4

5star

K

12.8

5star

HB

9.6

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

3.6

5star

MG

387.8

5star

(hamstring), Marc Pittonet

27

Marc Pittonet

Age

28

Ht

202cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.7

2star

K

2.9

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

22.3

5star

D

8.6

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

3.7

5star

HO

25.9

5star

D

5.8

2star

K

1.2

1star

HB

4.6

4star

CL

2.4

5star

HO

16.6

5star

(hand), Ed Curnow

AFL team changes: Five ins for Friday

Carlton has named five returnees for Friday night football.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Alex Cincotta	Jacob Weitering	Brodie Kemp
Half-backs:	Lewis Young	Mitch McGovern	Adam Saad
Centreline:	Blake Acres	Patrick Cripps	Sam Walsh
Half-forwards:	Jesse Motlop	Charlie Curnow	Jack Silvagni
Forwards:	Zac Fisher	Harry McKay	Matthew Owies
Followers:	Tom De Koning	Matthew Kennedy	Adam Cerra
Interchange:	Jordan Boyd	Matthew Cottrell	Sam Docherty
	Lochie O'Brien
Emergencies:	Ed Curnow	Paddy Dow	Lachie Fogarty
	Lachie Plowman

 

[BigFrizz36]

Wow omitting Cripps for Dow is a huge call.

Personally I think Cripps is primed for a huge game. Dow too in the VFL.


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Huge isn't the word that would have used.

You appear to be more generous of spirit than me.

Cripps omitted. Yeah right.

 

[jimsta10]

If SOS is on the ball & TDK playing lead up forward... and Pitto has a broken hand, who plays in the Ruck.. I could see Cotters giving us at least as much as Jack did when he went in.. Cotterell v Grundy & Gawn

Mirkov and Young perhaps.

But who really knows, it's pin the tail on the donkey with this club atm and most likely we'll see TDK/JSOS - the dynamic dual again...

 

[Arr0w]

Bring in Young to chopout ruck with TDK, both could rest forward, allowing Charlie to play 3rd tall

Might be able to stretch the Demons backline

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

1 day and 90 minutes until the teams.

I really want to see about something innovative and would consider a couple of unforced changes to support the forced changes.

I think we will go ultra conservative though.

Voss will go:

Out: Newman In: Cincotta or Young
Out: Durdin In: Fisher
Out: Hewett In: E Curnow
Out: Pittonet In: Silvagni
Out: Hollands In: O'Brien

We'll all be sweating on Binns or Dow as the sub, depending on where your thoughts on Dow lie. We will probably get Cincotta if Young is selected in the 22 or we will get Fogarty since he has been in the emergencies for a few weeks.

Voss has already shown where his loyalties lie. Maybe the noise this week will see a big call but I'll believe it when I see it.

Chances of someone debuting or playing their first game of the season ... 50%.

 

[BlueBlood15]

90 minutes until the teams.

I really want to see about something innovative and would consider a couple of unforced changes to support the forced changes.

I think we will go ultra conservative though.

Voss will go:

Out: Newman In: Cincotta or Young
Out: Durdin In: Fisher
Out: Hewett In: E Curnow
Out: Pittonet In: Silvagni
Out: Hollands In: O'Brien

We'll all be sweating on Binns or Dow as the sub, depending on where your thoughts on Dow lie. We will probably get Cincotta if Young is selected in the 22 or we will get Fogarty since he has been in the emergencies for a few weeks.

Voss has already shown where his loyalties lie. Maybe the noise this week will see a big call but I'll believe it when I see it.

Chances of someone debuting or playing their first game of the season ... 50%.

Think you might be a day early ODN but fingers crossed we see Dow and Binns. Time to see if Dow has it once and for all. Binns deserves some exposure after a strong 2 month block in the VFL.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Think you might be a day early ODN but fingers crossed we see Dow and Binns. Time to see if Dow has it once and for all. Binns deserves some exposure after a strong 2 month block in the VFL.

Oh damn. Lost track of my week.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I also want to point out that if a selection out of the box is about to happen, we get tipped off early in interviews. I guess given a Friday game, we could see it tomorrow.

 

[Kernafides]

Lol no way Mirkov gets picked

 

[Jimmyonesix]

We will play Grundy into form this week -- expect the big man to have a night out --
I hope silvagni not forced to second ruck

 

[JustaBattler]

We will play Grundy into form this week -- expect the big man to have a night out --
I hope silvagni not forced to second ruck

Melbourne might play Harry into form this week ...

 

[Stamos]

Paddy played his first game last year in a narrow loss to the pies (not the last round). Towards the end of the game in a narrow loss there were a couple of breakdowns in defensive pressure which allowed Sidebottom to be completely free which allowed him to kick or set up easy goals. Sidebottoms man had to push up to cover the ball carrier who had no pressure on him.

My take was that the coaching panel thought that Dow was responsible for those breakdowns. Absolutely impossible to know for sure but he was dropped the next week despite o.k stats.

Played one more game but it was clear that the coaching panel was doing it under sufferance and he played like he had the sword of Damocles hanging over him.

Impossible to know for sure but we have heard "lack of defensive pressure" over and over again. Just my take and I could be wrong.

Even if Dow was entirely responsible for those defensive break downs, it is insane from a coaching perspective to write off a player with another year and a half on their contract, after a single game.

It's not like the rest of our mids are impeccable defensively.

 

[Thrawn]

Melbourne might play Harry into form this week ...

What will happen is some lesser-light will suddenly have a burst of good play that kills us and the game, then this same person will disappear for the next several weeks.

 

[Arr0w]

Think Binns gets a run, well, I would select him for Hollands

Suspect the changes will be

Hollands - Binns or LOB
Pitto - Young
Durdin - Fisher
Hewett - Ed
Newman - Cincotta

JSos or Fog the sub

Doc to the backline

There could be a surprising inclusion, Marchbank or Martin

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Even if Dow was entirely responsible for those defensive break downs, it is insane from a coaching perspective to write off a player with another year and a half on their contract, after a single game.

It's not like the rest of our mids are impeccable defensively.

I saw it mentioned that Dow chased and caught someone running from the forward 50 to the defensive 50.

We lament Dow because of his lack of defensive pressure but we have more of those in our senior side. He could easily go to another team that can cover for any of those deficiencies and do very well. Carlton can't cover for Cripp's deficiencies, let along anybody else's. We're a little hypocritical with Dow.

 

[Mondyboy]

Think Binns gets a run, well, I would select him for Hollands

Suspect the changes will be

Hollands - Binns or LOB
Pitto - Young
Durdin - Fisher
Hewett - Ed
Newman - Cincotta

JSos or Fog the sub

Doc to the backline

There could be a surprising inclusion, Marchbank or Martin

I think you’re right. Although I would have Dow ahead of Ed. But given the MC keep playing Ed and Cerra got off, Dow unlikely to get a game.


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[Mondyboy]

What will happen is some lesser-light will suddenly have a burst of good play that kills us and the game, then this same person will disappear for the next several weeks.

Just say Melksham when you mean Melksham.


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[Arr0w]

I think you’re right. Although I would have Dow ahead of Ed. But given the MC keep playing Ed and Cerra got off, Dow unlikely to get a game.


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This week, I would be okay with Dow getting a run, pushing Walsh, Cerra, Cripps, Kennedy resting/rotating forward rather than Ed in the side

 

[Stamos]

We're a little hypocritical with Dow.

Just a little.
He's playing for an inside mid spot. But our other inside mids get moved out of position to give average at best performances at half forward or half back.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Just a little.
He's playing for an inside mid spot. But our other inside mids get moved out of position to give average at best performances at half forward or half back.

Just would like to see a shift in coaching philosophy towards what can you do for me as opposed to a negative pigeon holing of players.

Kennedy - 'great contested attacking minded mid. Shepherds and runs forward from a stoppage can take a mark and kick long goals.' - defence it is.

Just... Why. Put em where they're best! That includes Dow. I think there's room in that rotation if eds out and Kennedy plays forward mid.

 

[Mondyboy]

This week, I would be okay with Dow getting a run, pushing Walsh, Cerra, Cripps, Kennedy resting/rotating forward rather than Ed in the side

That would make sense.


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[thebluenewdeal]

This week, I would be okay with Dow getting a run, pushing Walsh, Cerra, Cripps, Kennedy resting/rotating forward rather than Ed in the side

You’d think cerra would be rotating half back with Doch. I also think Marchy could come in for Kennedy. In my opinion, I’d like to see Kemp play as the extra down back, not for aerial support but more for our ground work stuff that we can rebound from. Maybe we play kennedy as the sub to impact late. That way we’d have weiters and Marchy as the key backs, McGovern to play on a small to intercept in the air. Doch/Cerra, Boyd and Saad as our HHB and Kempy as the extra to support at stoppages and maybe even match up on Petracca when he goes forward.

 

[gbatman]

Wow omitting Cripps for Dow is a huge call.

Personally I think Cripps is primed for a huge game. Dow too in the VFL.


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He's injured.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Who plays on Fritsch is going to interesting, not sure we have an obvious match up.

 

[Arr0w]

You’d think cerra would be rotating half back with Doch.

I agree, but we need to move on from rotating mids in the back half

I also think Marchy could come in for Kennedy. In my opinion, I’d like to see Kemp play as the extra down back, not for aerial support but more for our ground work stuff that we can rebound

Kemp still worries me, I would prefer Marhbank of those 2

Maybe we play kennedy as the sub to impact late.

Just play him in the guts

That way we’d have weiters and Marchy as the key backs, McGovern to play on a small to intercept in the air.

Marchbank suffers when playing KPD

Doch/Cerra, Boyd and Saad as our HHB and Kempy as the extra to support at stoppages and maybe even match up on Petracca when he goes forward.

Kemp on Petracca would be a disaster. Gov for ariel competence, Cincotta for contested situations. Toss a coin

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

What will happen is some lesser-light will suddenly have a burst of good play that kills us and the game, then this same person will disappear for the next several weeks.

Melksham.. gives me fricken shivers thinking about it..