Preview 2023 Rd 12 Carlton vs Melbourne Friday June 2 7:50PM @ MCG

[Aphrodite]

Team is in …





IN: Alex Cincotta, Zac Fisher

16

Zac Fisher

Age

26

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.0

5star

MG

384.0

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

384.0

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

3.0

5star

, Lochie O'Brien

4

Lochie O'brien

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

9.3

4star

HB

3.9

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.3

3star

CL

0.7

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

3.2

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.4

4star

CL

1.0

3star

, Jack Silvagni

1

Jack Silvagni

Age

27

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

, Lewis Young

33

Lewis Young

Age

26

Ht

202cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

197.9

3star

D

4.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

26.0

1star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.2

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

181.6

3star

OUT: Corey Durdin (knee), George Hewett

29

George Hewett

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.7

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

10.3

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

3.3

5star

D

13.8

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

9.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.4

3star

(concussion), Ollie Hollands (collarbone), Nic Newman

24

Nic Newman

Age

32

Ht

186cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.7

5star

K

13.7

5star

HB

5.9

4star

M

5.5

5star

T

3.3

5star

MG

400.8

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

MG

157.0

3star

D

22.4

5star

K

12.8

5star

HB

9.6

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

3.6

5star

MG

387.8

5star

(hamstring), Marc Pittonet

27

Marc Pittonet

Age

28

Ht

202cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.7

2star

K

2.9

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

22.3

5star

D

8.6

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

3.7

5star

HO

25.9

5star

D

5.8

2star

K

1.2

1star

HB

4.6

4star

CL

2.4

5star

HO

16.6

5star

(hand), Ed Curnow

AFL team changes: Five ins for Friday

Carlton has named five returnees for Friday night football.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Alex Cincotta	Jacob Weitering	Brodie Kemp
Half-backs:	Lewis Young	Mitch McGovern	Adam Saad
Centreline:	Blake Acres	Patrick Cripps	Sam Walsh
Half-forwards:	Jesse Motlop	Charlie Curnow	Jack Silvagni
Forwards:	Zac Fisher	Harry McKay	Matthew Owies
Followers:	Tom De Koning	Matthew Kennedy	Adam Cerra
Interchange:	Jordan Boyd	Matthew Cottrell	Sam Docherty
	Lochie O'Brien
Emergencies:	Ed Curnow	Paddy Dow	Lachie Fogarty
	Lachie Plowman

 

[WalshYouLegend]

Have zero expectations for this match but if we somehow came away with a win that would be like a breath of fresh air.

 

[JoeyPBLUES]

I guess we will never know.

Forgetting about Dow it’s about all the players on the list. Some get selected regardless of form and some will never get rewarded. Terrible for team culture I would think.

I reckon it’s more a “player for player” like now we have a bit of depth. Ie:LOB in for Hollands Cincotta in for Newman Fisher in for god knows who although I’d say Fish/Walsh will swap into the guts and HHF with Walsh at more centre bounces that sort of thing.

 

[Fabab]

Many times over previous years we have been absolutely putrid but this season seems worse as coming into the season we had hope and expectations.
I am sure if we continue being as bad our membership numbers are going to drop big time next year.

 

[Beyond Blue]

Pick players who have consistent form, not play one good reserves game and they are back in. Carlton is constantly killing themselves at the selection table. Lewis Young did nothing last week to warrant getting selected. Dow better be the sub, he deserves at least that.

I think that selection is more out of necessity to have someone tall enough to handle Grundy and Gawn when they rest forward.

 

[Coops93]

Dow has played 65 senior games and many more in the reserves, he’s a known quantity.
For what it’s worth, I like him and hopes he finds a new club next year which gives him a crack at achieving a career at AFL level.

Lochie O'Brien has played 65 senior games and many more in the reserves, he's a known quantity.

Yet, is repeatedly selected after being dropped for clearly being well below AFL standard the moment any pressure is applied.

Dow, however, is not afforded the same.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Kicking it through the big sticks would be a good starting point

That will get us going, but even kicking at the AFL average we’d still be miles off where we should be.

 

[Mondyboy]

I genuinely wish they’d pick Dow just so we’d stop discussing him here.

I think he should have got a game for what it’s worth.

But why aren’t we playing Binns over LoB. That’s what’s got me confused. Binns isn’t perfect by any stretch, but he has shown a crap-tonne in VFL.

Ach, whatever. I had zero expectation for this game. It hasn’t changed. I will be gobsmacked if we get even close.


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[norway blue]

This x 10000.

I wish the club would give up on this stupid experiment. Play him where he belongs, as the AA HBF that he is…

And Bam Bam in the middle splitting time with Cripps forward. It’s what needs to happen . Not
withstanding the whole team plays hard , attacking brave football. Looking forward to the game. To see what happens. Go Blues.


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[Coops93]

Conspiracy time.....

Saw some footage of Paddy at training, not a care in the world, didn't look like someone on the outer, frustrated, he kicked a goal in training and was fist pumping whilst Walsh solemnly walked past him........
What if club X told him they wanted him but couldn't fit him in last year, told him to sit tight at Carlton for the final year of his contract and they'd pick him up for naught as a free delisted agent at the end of this season. Certainly explains his demeanor and how players seemingly bypassed him on the track. Also lends itself to what was mentioned by one of us in regards to him not being a good fit to the rest of the team, and something I've heard about an "agreement"....
Just saying, starting to make sense, especially if the club have got wind of something

I doubt Dow would still have such a bubbly attitude at training if he knew everyone around him was pissed at him and wanted him out every day just because he knew he had a new job in 12 months.

People don't work that way.

 

[Arr0w]

Kemp's one of the few reasons to actually watch Carlton at the moment. Shining despite being forced into a dour role.

He has been ordinary, all at sea

 

[Mondyboy]

Reckon the coach will regret making statements like this

'Don't think we're too far away'​

Unfortunately we’ve avoided any brave selections again (binns, dow woulda been something) so imagine we will play the same bland type of footy we’ve played so far this year.
Stubborn.
I get being positive, but there’s a point where you’re deluded. Many others have said, you can be stubborn when it’s working, but it clearly ain’t in so many facets of our game day performance that everything the club does shoulda been looked at, yet we hear voss say he’s happy with his midfield mix and we aren’t far away etc
Sheesh.

The game style won’t change at all. The game style is to play a chip chip possession style that allows the defence to fall in behind. The fact that it allows there defence to do the same is meant to be mitigated by our twin towers who, at worst, will bring it to ground. But our smalls have been awful all year and one of our twin towers is barely a shack (and I love him and was proud of him speaking out this week, but he is in a rut).

But, yeah.


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[Arr0w]

But why wouldn't he replace Hewett??? And BTW if you hadn't noticed, the stellar midfield you have listed is ranked 16th in the comp, the team is 12th and we are not playing Finals.

Can understand not changing a winning formula, but we have a losing formula and a lot of it is a consequence of having a one paced SLOW midfield.

Dow wouldn't change our fortune, in fact he would make it worse

But of course, I don't pick the side

 

[Blue Reaper]

Would prefer Young as 2nd ruck.

Our game has missed effective end-to-end transition and drive out of the HB line. So I’d prefer Doc at HB with Saad to double team as the architects back there, and provide the run.

And Kennedy instead of JSOS at HF with Dow in midfield. And Fog as sub.

But, I suppose bring on Friday night. Hope the team can turn it around.

 

[carlton_99]

That will get us going, but even kicking at the AFL average we’d still be miles off where we should be.

Definitely have other issues with ball movement and general ball use but if we just converted the chances we create it would give the group a bit of confidence.

 

[M_I_G]

There’ll be a late change and Dow will be in. Voss is playing us all. I just know it

 

[carlton_99]

There’ll be a late change and Dow will be in. Voss is playing us all. I just know it

Could still be the sub as well

 

[Arr0w]

How would u know??

How would you know?

 

[Mondyboy]

Dow wouldn't change our fortune, in fact he would make it worse

But of course, I don't pick the side

This is another reason why I want Dow to play. Just so we can pop the ballon and either faction can scream: I TOLD YOU SO.

Pffft, I’m not helping.


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[BM123]

Dunno if those numbers scream superstar

Didn't pop off as a young mid in wooden spoon contending teams.

Guess that writes him off forever then....

Guess we'll just grab another mid from elsewhere once Cripps is cooked.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

He has been ordinary, all at sea

Not even close. Appreciate your player reviews normally but Kemps a beauty, being forced to 'learn' a negative first approach. Was one of the best last week too. Skill errors are rife with everyone once the confidence returns to the team they'll disappear hopefully. From everyone.

Kemp's got 10 year star potential. Hasnt even played 10 games and is already showing his shit. Definitely Being judged against a standard not applied to others at similar games played.

Wish the all at sea criticism would shift to the experienced players absolutely stinking it up. (ahem cripps, Harry, Newman, young, acres, Saad, McGovern etc etc)

(ง'̀-'́)ง

 

[Arr0w]

Not even close. Appreciate your player reviews normally but Kemps a beauty, being forced to 'learn' a negative first approach. Was one of the best last week too. Skill errors are rife with everyone once the confidence returns to the team they'll disappear hopefully. From everyone.

Kemp's got 10 year star potential. Hasnt even played 10 games and is already showing his s**t. Definitely Being judged against a standard not applied to others at similar games played.

Wish the all at sea criticism would shift to the experienced players absolutely stunning it up. (ahem cripps, Harry, Newman, young, acres, Saad, McGovern etc etc)

(ง'̀-'́)ง

Still think he makes it, but no, has been a liability last 2 weeks

 

[carlton_99]

Not even close. Appreciate your player reviews normally but Kemps a beauty, being forced to 'learn' a negative first approach. Was one of the best last week too. Skill errors are rife with everyone once the confidence returns to the team they'll disappear hopefully. From everyone.

Kemp's got 10 year star potential. Hasnt even played 10 games and is already showing his s**t. Definitely Being judged against a standard not applied to others at similar games played.

Wish the all at sea criticism would shift to the experienced players absolutely stinking it up. (ahem cripps, Harry, Newman, young, acres, Saad, McGovern etc etc)

(ง'̀-'́)ง

Yeh can cop the odd error Kemp makes. Can't cop the schoolboy errors Gov made against the Swans last week (i.e. failing to shepherd, giving a holding free away for holding a man half his size)...

 

[HarryFlashman]

How would you know?

That’s the point!
Only one way to find out

 

[xDQ82x]

Late to the party, but least we should see dow for a QTR or two tomorrow night.

 

[norway blue]

Kemp's one of the few reasons to actually watch Carlton at the moment. Shining despite being forced into a dour role.

Midfielder. I see him in there with another young one. Durdin. ?Cripps or and Bam Bam forward .


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