Preview 2023 Rd 13 Carlton vs Essendon Sunday June 11 7:15PM @ MCG

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Team is in ...


IN: Ed Curnow, Jack Martin

21

Jack Martin

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

, Marc Pittonet

27

Marc Pittonet

Age

28

Ht

202cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.7

2star

K

2.9

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

22.3

5star

D

8.6

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

3.7

5star

HO

25.9

5star

D

5.8

2star

K

1.2

1star

HB

4.6

4star

CL

2.4

5star

HO

16.6

5star

OUT: Paddy Dow, Zac Fisher

16

Zac Fisher

Age

26

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.0

5star

MG

384.0

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

384.0

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

3.0

5star

, Lochie O'Brien

4

Lochie O'brien

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

9.3

4star

HB

3.9

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.3

3star

CL

0.7

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

3.2

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.4

4star

CL

1.0

3star

, Jack Silvagni

1

Jack Silvagni

Age

26

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

AFL team news: Martin among three Round 13 inclusions

Carlton's team is in for the Round 13 clash with Essendon.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Alex Cincotta	Jacob Weitering	Jordan Boyd
Half-backs:	Adam Saad	Mitch McGovern	Brodie Kemp
Centreline:	Sam Walsh	Patrick Cripps	Blake Acres
Half-forwards:	Jack Martin	Charlie Curnow	Sam Docherty
Forwards:	Matthew Owies	Harry McKay	Tom De Koning
Followers:	Marc Pittonet	Adam Cerra	Ed Curnow
Interchange:	Matthew Cottrell	Matthew Kennedy	Jesse Motlop
	Lewis Young
Emergencies:	Lachie Cowan	Paddy Dow	Lachie Fogarty
	Jack Silvagni

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Think North might be too tough in the clinches for the Giants today.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Ed Curnow, FMD

Voss deserves everything he’s getting


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[teagueyubeauty]

Has to be Dow couldn’t possibly select Binns first game as sub…….or could we?


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These MC dumbarses do stupid very well


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[Wickzki]

If u watch the vfl u will see that he is damaging. They spliced together a package of poor disposal to be “edgy”.
You get the ball on avg 32 times there’s going to be some mistakes.
His highlights (which there plenty of each game) easily out weighs it.
The “Dow can’t kick rhetoric” is bullshit, lacing out Harry perfectly last game shows that. His kicking has improved out of sight, he has power & penetration but is also hitting up the close targets.
He doesn’t get “easy” touches and finds good attacking options, finding space for team mates or starting a forward chain. Even when he’s slamming it on the boot to get it out the hot zone, he’s clearing it 40+ meters which at least gives the team a chance to set up

The stats don't support your opinion.

35 touches. 19 clangers.

If any of our AFL mids had 19 clangers in a game everyone would expect that player to be dropped. Yet Dow is putting those types of performances in at the level below the AFL




Here's the current (as of this morning) top disposal averages in the VFL this year. Binns aside (who is the real player who should feel aggrieved he hasn't been selected as he does have a point of difference and is in his first year) the rest of the list are either players who aren't even AFL listed or are those who have been or are who like Dow are known butchers of the ball .


19 clangers and you want him in the AFL team.

 

[ajb72]

Agree. Butchering the ball half the time comment is a bit of an exaggeration…

If Dow is butchering the ball half the time, he is delivering it twice as good as our current bunch of mids.


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[katmanblue]

All we are saying is give Dow a chance

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[Jimmae]

The stats don't support your opinion.

35 touches. 19 clangers.

If any of our AFL mids had 19 clangers in a game everyone would expect that player to be dropped. Yet Dow is putting those types of performances in at the level below the AFL

View attachment 1709882


Here's the current (as of this morning) top disposal averages in the VFL this year. Binns aside (who is the real player who should feel aggrieved he hasn't been selected as he does have a point of difference and is in his first year) the rest of the list are either players who aren't even AFL listed or are those who have been or are who like Dow are known butchers of the ball .


19 clangers and you want him in the AFL team.

What game was this? If it was the Williamstown game, he was repeatedly kicking into a gale you could windsurf on with a skateboard and a towel

 

[Wickzki]

What game was this? If it was the Williamstown game, he was repeatedly kicking into a gale you could windsurf on with a skateboard and a towel

The one before he got selected.

He has averaged double digit clangers this year according to Ralph so even if we account for toxic ball use weather it doesn't paint a good picture. Not every game has had poor conditions, surely.

 

[HarryFlashman]

The stats don't support your opinion.

35 touches. 19 clangers.

If any of our AFL mids had 19 clangers in a game everyone would expect that player to be dropped. Yet Dow is putting those types of performances in at the level below the AFL

View attachment 1709882


Here's the current (as of this morning) top disposal averages in the VFL this year. Binns aside (who is the real player who should feel aggrieved he hasn't been selected as he does have a point of difference and is in his first year) the rest of the list are either players who aren't even AFL listed or are those who have been or are who like Dow are known butchers of the ball .


19 clangers and you want him in the AFL team.

That’s a great story but just wrong.
VFL stats vfl.aflmstats.com
P Dow avg 31.7 disposals, 4.6 tackles, 16.9 handballs, 14.8 kick- so yeah avg 32
No game this season has he had 35- had 36 his last full game, 17 kicks. So how does he have 19 clangers??
We’re are u finding the clanger stats? Best of my knowledge there no clanger stats kept at vfl- same with disposal efficiency.
So are u just misinformed or deliberately teeing off on a bloke & making it up the stats?

 

[HarryFlashman]

The one before he got selected.

He has averaged double digit clangers this year according to Ralph so even if we account for toxic ball use weather it doesn't paint a good picture. Not every game has had poor conditions, surely.

It’s bullshit mate, don’t believe Ralph

 

[Wickzki]

That’s a great story but just wrong.
VFL stats vfl.aflmstats.com
P Dow avg 31.7 disposals, 4.6 tackles, 16.9 handballs, 14.8 kick- so yeah avg 32
No game this season has he had 35- had 36 his last full game, 17 kicks. So how does he have 19 clangers??
We’re are u finding the clanger stats? Best of my knowledge there no clanger stats kept at vfl- same with disposal efficiency.
So are u just misinformed or deliberately teeing off on a bloke & making it up the stats?

Pregame show last week and another of the Fox Footy shows during the week.

It may have been 36. Excuse me for being one off.

 

[Wickzki]

It’s bullshit mate, don’t believe Ralph

They're not producing stats out of their ass.

They have no problem sticking the boots into us in other ways

If these numbers weren't factual then they'd use it to further stick the boots into us instead of justifying the selection policy of the match committee.

 

[HarryFlashman]

Pregame show last week and another of the Fox Footy shows during the week.

It may have been 36. Excuse me for being one off.

It’s bullshit, he did not turn over every kick

They're not producing stats out of their ass.

They have no problem sticking the boots into us in other ways

If these numbers weren't factual then they'd use it to further stick the boots into us instead of justifying the selection policy of the match committee.

Plenty of us watched the game, he’s 100% talking shit.

 

[katmanblue]

It’s very ******* simple, I don’t get how people cannot understand it.
The best player in the VFL for the last 2yrs has not been given 2 games in a row playing as part of our midfield to show whether or not he’s AFL standard.
Whether he is or not is a moot point- no one knows as he hasn’t been given the opportunity. Throw in how badly our midfield has been going & it’s the reason why it continually gets brought up.
It’s down right ******* stupid

for using moot rather than the oft seen mute.

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[katmanblue]

phuk this Dow talk pages after pages, weeks after weeks
He's in the team now

See, it works.

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[HarryFlashman]

They're not producing stats out of their ass.

They have no problem sticking the boots into us in other ways

If these numbers weren't factual then they'd use it to further stick the boots into us instead of justifying the selection policy of the match committee.

Just watched the twitter highlights, it showed 15 possessions (including a goal) 19 out of the other 21 touches were not clangers, it is 100% bullshit. It did not happen.
VFL app has the replay available

 

[Wickzki]

Just watched the twitter highlights, it showed 15 possessions (including a goal) 19 out of the other 21 touches were not clangers, it is 100% bullshit. It did not happen.
VFL app has the replay available

Then I don't know who fed Fox the stats then or why they took them verbatim

 

[Skull Face]

This is the game we turn it around, reserves have convinced me were finally going to play smarter going forward.

 

[HarryFlashman]

Then I don't know who fed Fox the stats then or why they took them verbatim

They are lazy pricks, I’d be calling for Dows head if he was producing that level of clangers. It’s shit that the pricks don’t fact check before spouting off.
Blame Kane Cornes

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Definitely a Roast Lamb night.

Just put the bugger in for a 20 minute 210 degree scorch.

Details as they come to hand….

 

[The Bighouse]

What game was this? If it was the Williamstown game, he was repeatedly kicking into a gale you could windsurf on with a skateboard and a towel

The highlights were vs Swans in Sydney.

 

[macky99]

The stats don't support your opinion.

35 touches. 19 clangers.

If any of our AFL mids had 19 clangers in a game everyone would expect that player to be dropped. Yet Dow is putting those types of performances in at the level below the AFL

View attachment 1709882


Here's the current (as of this morning) top disposal averages in the VFL this year. Binns aside (who is the real player who should feel aggrieved he hasn't been selected as he does have a point of difference and is in his first year) the rest of the list are either players who aren't even AFL listed or are those who have been or are who like Dow are known butchers of the ball .


19 clangers and you want him in the AFL team.

Pretty sure many of our elite players eg Walsh etc skills have been rubbish this year also.
Who cares anymore, he won't be at Carlton next year, he will find a new home & most likely be a solid 3/4th mid .

 

[Accidental genius]

Definitely a Roast Lamb night.

Just put the bugger in for a 20 minute 210 degree scorch.

Details as they come to hand….

If nothing else we’ve got your extraordinary pregame food festivities to hear about

 

[agro]

I hate these supercilious, obsequious, self entitled campaigners.

 

[Bluechip66]

Giants just bumped us to 15th!