Preview 2023 Rd 9 Carlton vs Western Bulldogs Saturday May 13 7:30PM @ Marvel Stadium

[Aphrodite]

Team is in …






IN: Matthew Cottrell, Matthew Kennedy, Matthew Owies
OUT: Ed Curnow (Omitted), Josh Honey (Omitted), Brodie Kemp (Omitted)

AFL team news: A trio of Matts return to lineup

Three changes for the Blues Round 9 clash with the Dogs.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Lewis Young	Jacob Weitering	Nic Newman
Half-backs:	Matt Kennedy	Mitch McGovern	Adam Saad
Centreline:	Blake Acres	Patrick Cripps	Oliver Hollands
Half-forwards:	Sam Walsh	Harry McKay	Jack Silvagni
Forwards:	Corey Durdin	Charlie Curnow	Jesse Motlop
Followers:	Marc Pittonet	George Hewett	Sam Docherty
Interchange:	Alex Cincotta	Adam Cerra	Matthew Cottrell
	Matthew Owies
Emergencies:	Ed Curnow	Jordan Boyd	Lachie Fogarty
	Brodie Kemp

 

[DirtyLeeds]

What about Fisher as a permanent lock down small defender? A la Matty Hogg, but quicker? Would definitely add pace to our defence bit like the desperate last move of Jones to full back......

 

[xDQ82x]

Don’t see why though? I mean effort was there and Voss acknowledged this at his post match presser.

Voss blamed poor execution for the loss so yelling/screaming/baking players for that is a bit of a waste and not appropriate imo. they are what they are. Baking won’t change that.

Just passing on what I heard from someone who was in the meeting... Got nothing else to add

 

[Psychochook]

We'll win.

 

[Accidental genius]

Just passing on what I heard from someone who was in the meeting... Got nothing else to add

You will add somethings and like it!

 

[xDQ82x]

You will add somethings and like it!

Wish I could... Wish I could say Voss and the coaching staff are whipping up some genius new game style or something.

 

[Arr0w]

What about Fisher as a permanent lock down small defender? A la Matty Hogg, but quicker? Would definitely add pace to our defence bit like the desperate last move of Jones to full back......

No, hasn't got the intent or strength to play that role

 

[DirtyLeeds]

Agreed, but can intent be trained, and strength improved on the right gym routine?

 

[azlou]

voss game em a good bake in the review (probably to be expected) lets see if it does anything.

Not sure that’s going to make them kick better if it was effort maybe but I don’t think effort is the problem

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Last year, even in the back half, I was always comfortable with the brand of footy we were playing

At the moment, I am finding it hard which version will show up

Right now, the best statement we can make is the level of intent

Me too... last year we were still competitive, and suffered some narrow defeats(also had some narrow victories.)
This season is a polar opposite, even the wins(except half a west coast side) have been very underwhelming, despite having most of our list available and the addition of good new players.

 

[Blue since 72]

Don’t see why though? I mean effort was there and Voss acknowledged this at his post match presser.

Voss blamed poor execution for the loss so yelling/screaming/baking players for that is a bit of a waste and not appropriate imo. they are what they are. Baking won’t change that.

They needed a bake. The decision making was deplorable and same with the kicking, Ed's kick was plain lazy, Charlie kicked to no one, Young's hand ball to no one and Weiters around the corner kick just to name a few.

There's moving the ball quickly with good decisions and clean kicking and then there's what Carlton did on the weekend and the players absolutely need to be put across the knee.

85 points out of 100 scored on turnover can't be ignored and a quiet chat is not enough for professionals.

 

[Blue since 72]

Not sure that’s going to make them kick better if it was effort maybe but I don’t think effort is the problem

The effort was there so I agree with Voss on that but they practice this shit for months (decisions and disposal), it really was embarrassing.

 

[Gointocarlton]

voss game em a good bake in the review (probably to be expected) lets see if it does anything.

Cant bake players these days, their feelings will get hurt.

 

[Blue since 72]

Cant bake players these days, their feelings will get hurt.

Arghhhh don't get me started on that.

 

[Gointocarlton]

Arghhhh don't get me started on that.

You? Dont get me started your you mean. I wonder if these blokes have ever heard of Wallsy's infamous "Scarecrow".

 

[I bleed Blue]

Our game plan is stifled, predictable and easy to coach against.

Blues by 6 goals.

 

[DirtyLeeds]

It's the turn overs, which comes from our shite disposal, ipso facto fix the disposal and by natural consequence turn overs will be reduced. As my old Maths Master Big M would have said "...the cat, sat on, the mat....Son."

 

[I bleed Blue]

Agreed, but can intent be trained, and strength improved on the right gym routine?

I don't think intent and desire can be trained. It's innate. You either have it or you don't.

 

[Skull Face]

Surely us fans won't call it a success if we miss finals, we didnt miss them through lack of talent last year it was just down to tiring late in the year and losing some close games against top quality opposition.

You would be hard pressed to find improvement in any area of the ground, Curnow up forward but everyone around him is the same or worse the same could be said for Newman down back and the midfield is down on all fronts aside from Acres/Holland on the wings.

 

[Worm4]

It's the turn overs, which comes from our shite disposal, ipso facto fix the disposal and by natural consequence turn overs will be reduced. As my old Maths Master Big M would have said "...the cat, sat on, the mat....Son."

Ken oath. 100% disposal. Turnovers between half back and centre thru to half forward. We are getting smashed through this area of the ground

 

[DirtyLeeds]

That is the nature/nurture argument; are you born to be a psychopath or is it socialized? I don't believe that Fisher can't be re-educated to be more negative and forceful; and curtail his flair for a team first belief. We haven't had a decent lock down small defender since Franchina, and that's saying something.......

 

[smashbox gill]

What about Fisher as a permanent lock down small defender? A la Matty Hogg, but quicker? Would definitely add pace to our defence bit like the desperate last move of Jones to full back......

He can barely lay a taxkle

 

[Just Kreuzing]

How about Cripps winning the ball and pushing forward - make Bont chase him.
Let’s get some offensive thinking back in our minds.

Yeah hear what you’re saying but if I was Bont I wouldn’t give 2 ****s about Cripps going forward and would just run my own race in this match up....

It would be Cripps going to him & not vice versa.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

He can barely lay a taxkle

next!

 

[Red_man2008]

Listening to a few podcasts and starting to notice our inability to use a spare behind the ball. There’s no disadvantage to us using this tactic as everyone uses it. It’ll open up our forward line to have more space.

Charlie needs to start moving up the ground while leaving Harry closer to goal. Charlie’s one of the best kicks inside 50 in the league. He should be doing exactly what Jeremy Cameron

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Jeremy Cameron

Age

31

Ht

196cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.6

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.0

5star

is. Give him a free role to roam the field. Go everywhere. Harry to stay at home. I’d love to see it but will we try it. Play doc off the wing and send him straight back off the defensive side. Leave acres on the other to be the attacking wing.

Walsh can come off the forward square to add to the midfield and be the first handball recieve forward. Simples.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

That is the nature/nurture argument; are you born to be a psychopath or is it socialized? I don't believe that Fisher can't be re-educated to be more negative and forceful; and curtail his flair for a team first belief. We haven't had a decent lock down small defender since Franchina, and that's saying something.......

All defenders need to be capable overhead, strong and lay tackles.