Trades 2023 Round 3 Trades - Moo Time !

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Teams are definitely converging, it’s easier to say…

Which posters are not getting at least two of these players this week?

Setterfield, DCameron and Ziebell

Throw in LDU, Daicos & Chandler in the mix for the third trade

Whatever happened to PODs? o_O
LDU was my ****ing POD now every campaigner and his dog wants to get on board!
 

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His gonna break the North Bench Press record this week and bench press the hawthorn side to a 0 - 3 start.

Nervous non owner here.

He's getting the McGuiness tag you would reckon. Can he overcome it? Maybe. But there are folks trading him in with a sideways and then sticking the VC/C straight on him. That kind of play has a tendency to blow up in folk's faces
 
Teams are definitely converging, it’s easier to say…

Which posters are not getting at least two of these players this week?

Setterfield, DCameron and Ziebell

Throw in LDU, Daicos & Chandler in the mix for the third trade

Whatever happened to PODs? o_O
I’m getting Setters in, no D Cameron or Ziebell as my RUC and FWD line are in pretty good shape.

Considering a left field POD as a Macrae replacement.
 
In some serious strife. The way my team is set up, Flanders ended up riding the bench last week and holding on as Jelly cover.

T1: Flanders to Chandler
T2: Bruhn to Setterfield
T3: Bailey Smith to Worpel

345k left over for next week. Hopefully Hunter Clark to Bowes and a lowly priced rookie to a premo next week.

Considerations:
  • Could keep Flanders (given I'm banking cash) for the extra cash gen and instead punt Chesser (especially if he's dropped)
  • Would ordinarily go Baz to LDU, but the tag this week spooks me and reckon missing Worpel would be worse.
  • Could go Smith to Nick Daicos and let one of Worpel/Setterfield slide

Thoughts?

Still thinking about the absolute deadshit moves I made the 48 hours before round one/within it to turn what would have been a top 1k tier team into a genuine basket case. Anyway, enough woe is me. In a shit spot of my own doing. Trying to figure out how to get out of it, and now settling on a bit of a weird plan. Is this absolute madness to effectively ignore rookie downgrades? Logic below - looking at the rookie targets for it:

  • Chandler: JS, and plays a role that shouldn't be scoring friendly. 82 avg more likely to be an outlier. If he avgs 55 from here AND keeps his spot, gains 150k
  • Long: JS, and makes the most out of low possessions to score some ok SC scores. But surely that doesn't continue if he doesn't find the ball? Also, WCE have had two close games before thrashings. If he avgs 50 from here, gains 120k
  • Caminiti: JS, and similar to long, can't see 53 being the go long term. 40 from here is 95k
  • Bergman: 55 from here and keeps his spot is 140k
  • Blokes like Philippou, Menzie, Michalanney, Uwland, Cowan, Comben, Greene in similar veins to the above but worse

Then blokes worth moving up to:

  • Worpel: looks solid, if he goes at 95 from here, +200k
  • Setterfield: looks solid, if he goes at 95 from here, +175k
  • Ziebell: great role, if he goes at 95 from here, +160k
  • Daicos: 110 from this point means he's got 70k in him
  • D Cameron: 100 from here has 60k in him
  • English: 115 from here and he'll jump 40k
  • LDU: 120 from here has 65k in him

Considering some of the 'premiums' who look pooey and not best 22 like Darcy (-70k from here if he's 95) and Smith (-50k from here if he's 95) among others, surely for even cash gen reasons you'd be nearly equally better off doing Darcy to English/Cameron (~120-130k total price movement) or Smith to Daicos/LDU (~110-120 total price movement) than switching rookies to better rookies (i.e. a Flanders to a Chandler might get me 120k extra if Chandler keeps his spot and Flanders keeps being shit).

So, thinking about not getting guys like Chandler in, and instead spending the trade on switching Darcy to English/Cameron instead. Or similar with Nick Daicos coming in. I reckon it could be a 'total value' neutral trade?
 
So, thinking about not getting guys like Chandler in, and instead spending the trade on switching Darcy to English/Cameron instead. Or similar with Nick Daicos coming in. I reckon it could be a 'total value' neutral trade?

I think along very similar lines (and am constantly amazed that others dont). If I can get someone at a discount, especially a potential keeper (eg Ziebell) at a circa $150k discount, thats $150k I don't have to generate from a rook, and a trade saved down the road for the upgrade from said rook - e.g. lets get chandler now to make cash, upgrade to someone later (be it Ziebell or someone else at a similar price/avg) = 2 trades instead of 1, potentially little to no cash position difference across the year and I get Zeibells points from now. No brainer.
 
Still thinking about the absolute deadshit moves I made the 48 hours before round one/within it to turn what would have been a top 1k tier team into a genuine basket case. Anyway, enough woe is me. In a s**t spot of my own doing. Trying to figure out how to get out of it, and now settling on a bit of a weird plan. Is this absolute madness to effectively ignore rookie downgrades? Logic below - looking at the rookie targets for it:

  • Chandler: JS, and plays a role that shouldn't be scoring friendly. 82 avg more likely to be an outlier. If he avgs 55 from here AND keeps his spot, gains 150k
  • Long: JS, and makes the most out of low possessions to score some ok SC scores. But surely that doesn't continue if he doesn't find the ball? Also, WCE have had two close games before thrashings. If he avgs 50 from here, gains 120k
  • Caminiti: JS, and similar to long, can't see 53 being the go long term. 40 from here is 95k
  • Bergman: 55 from here and keeps his spot is 140k
  • Blokes like Philippou, Menzie, Michalanney, Uwland, Cowan, Comben, Greene in similar veins to the above but worse

Then blokes worth moving up to:

  • Worpel: looks solid, if he goes at 95 from here, +200k
  • Setterfield: looks solid, if he goes at 95 from here, +175k
  • Ziebell: great role, if he goes at 95 from here, +160k
  • Daicos: 110 from this point means he's got 70k in him
  • D Cameron: 100 from here has 60k in him
  • English: 115 from here and he'll jump 40k
  • LDU: 120 from here has 65k in him

Considering some of the 'premiums' who look pooey and not best 22 like Darcy (-70k from here if he's 95) and Smith (-50k from here if he's 95) among others, surely for even cash gen reasons you'd be nearly equally better off doing Darcy to English/Cameron (~120-130k total price movement) or Smith to Daicos/LDU (~110-120 total price movement) than switching rookies to better rookies (i.e. a Flanders to a Chandler might get me 120k extra if Chandler keeps his spot and Flanders keeps being s**t).

So, thinking about not getting guys like Chandler in, and instead spending the trade on switching Darcy to English/Cameron instead. Or similar with Nick Daicos coming in. I reckon it could be a 'total value' neutral trade?
Good post!

I can’t find a way to fit these rookies in, so I have to skip a few: Chandler, McKenna & Long

Missing on easy $$$
I don’t like it, but you can’t have them all :eek:

Anyway, hopefully my MPM team will shine through. I’m coming back from a long long way though :mad:
 
Sticking with my original idea, as I think loading up on the popular value trade-ins is probably the go this week, PODs will need to start happening before too long though.

Darcy -> Cameron
Callaghan -> Setterfault (this one hurts as I had the cash to bring in Setters last week, but went Callaghan. 100 points and a wasted trade later, here I am).
Flanders -> Ziegull

Think Ziegull (who is a disgusting footballer but a supreme gull) will end up being F6/D6 if the role and his body hold up. If not, he's a good stepping stone at least. Setterfield is gonna pig out with that mid time (90% CBAs is just silly).

Will let LDU get Finned and Curnowed, then will jump on in a few weeks.
 
Bulldogs under a lot of scrutiny. Does Bevo put the chess pieces in the right position this week? Do I have bigger issues than Dale (Max is an issue but that decision is easy)?

I'm in the same boat, to trade Dale or not? I'm torn as I hate giving up on premos this early.

I have Hunter Clark, who I am on the fence with too. His numbers were better this week, and with Steele out could come good?

If I hold Clark and trade Dale, I can go Dale/Bruhn/Flanders to Daicos/Chandler/Gulden or C Darcy. Leaves me with $52/62k in the kitty.

If I hold Dale and trade Clark, I can go Clark/Bruhn/Flanders to Daicos/McKenna/Chandler, which leaves me with $110k.

Any other wise thoughts?


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Now thinking ill hold my POD (Cerra) & go with Ridley, Darcy, Greene > Setterfield, Ziebell, D.Cameron

Next week i fix my backline (with) Goater/Callaghan > Crozier, Bowes

It means i keep Chesser as a loop between midfield and backline and the hope is that he becomes a floating donut

Cerra's being shunted around to the backline and the wing. It'll probably be worse when Walsh returns. With Green, LDU and Titch all killing it at that price point, I'm moving him on. Downgrading to Setterfield releases the cash to get Ziebell and DCameron with a couple of failed midpricers up forward. It's a shame because the back half of last year suggested that Cerra was primed to really break out
 

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Sticking with my original idea, as I think loading up on the popular value trade-ins is probably the go this week, PODs will need to start happening before too long though.

Darcy -> Cameron
Callaghan -> Setterfault (this one hurts as I had the cash to bring in Setters last week, but went Callaghan. 100 points and a wasted trade later, here I am).
Flanders -> Ziegull

Think Ziegull (who is a disgusting footballer but a supreme gull) will end up being F6/D6 if the role and his body hold up. If not, he's a good stepping stone at least. Setterfield is gonna pig out with that mid time (90% CBAs is just silly).

Will let LDU get Finned and Curnowed, then will jump on in a few weeks.
I'm thinking the same trades :think:
 
Am I mad to trade Jelly out for Ziebull?

Thinking of the bigger picture when Ziebull and Sheezel both get the D/F link as it will come in handy.

Then would have $250k left in the bank for next week to get Bowes if he goes alright this week.

Would leave me with this:

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Sticking with my original idea, as I think loading up on the popular value trade-ins is probably the go this week, PODs will need to start happening before too long though.

Darcy -> Cameron
Callaghan -> Setterfault (this one hurts as I had the cash to bring in Setters last week, but went Callaghan. 100 points and a wasted trade later, here I am).
Flanders -> Ziegull

Think Ziegull (who is a disgusting footballer but a supreme gull) will end up being F6/D6 if the role and his body hold up. If not, he's a good stepping stone at least. Setterfield is gonna pig out with that mid time (90% CBAs is just silly).

Will let LDU get Finned and Curnowed, then will jump on in a few weeks.
I was the same as you, was gonna bring in Setters too but was scared off by a low score lol
 
Sticking with my original idea, as I think loading up on the popular value trade-ins is probably the go this week, PODs will need to start happening before too long though.

Darcy -> Cameron
Callaghan -> Setterfault (this one hurts as I had the cash to bring in Setters last week, but went Callaghan. 100 points and a wasted trade later, here I am).
Flanders -> Ziegull

Think Ziegull (who is a disgusting footballer but a supreme gull) will end up being F6/D6 if the role and his body hold up. If not, he's a good stepping stone at least. Setterfield is gonna pig out with that mid time (90% CBAs is just silly).

Will let LDU get Finned and Curnowed, then will jump on in a few weeks.
Similar trades to me just the Callaghan one is super annoying I just brought the bloke in lol do you have chandler or skipping that bloke?
 
Am I mad to trade Jelly out for Ziebull?

Thinking of the bigger picture when Ziebull and Sheezel both get the D/F link as it will come in handy.

Then would have $250k left in the bank for next week to get Bowes if he goes alright this week.

Would leave me with this:

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Nothing is mad in supercoach, just think of it as a round 3 correction
 
Sean Darcy hosted a BBQ with the playing group at his house following the loss to the Roos.
All the boys needed was some snags.
200+ score incoming in Darcy.
 
Similar trades to me just the Callaghan one is super annoying I just brought the bloke in lol do you have chandler or skipping that bloke?
Nah, no Chandler. Sheezel is my F6 and my F7/8 don't have DPP (and aren't really worth trading), so don't really want to pass up on Ziebell and have Chandler on-field.

Chandler will make quick cash, so is a fine pick. I just don't think his scoring is overly sustainable, and with my structure, I'd be forced to hold him for a bit which wouldn't be ideal.
 
Sean Darcy hosted a BBQ with the playing group at his house following the loss to the Roos.
All the boys needed was some snags.
200+ score incoming in Darcy.
Don’t add that into the equation :mad:
 
Am I mad to trade Jelly out for Ziebull?

Thinking of the bigger picture when Ziebull and Sheezel both get the D/F link as it will come in handy.

Then would have $250k left in the bank for next week to get Bowes if he goes alright this week.

Would leave me with this:

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Get Ziebell and bask in the uncontested chipping filth we going to witness.
 
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