Preview 2023 Round 7 Carlton vs West Coast Saturday 29th April 7.30PM AEST @ Optus Stadium

[Aphrodite]

Team is in …



IN: Sam Docherty, Brodie Kemp, Adam Saad

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Adam Saad

Age

30

Ht

178cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.5

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

MG

349.1

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

12.0

5star

HB

8.7

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.4

3star

MG

388.3

5star

D

17.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.2

3star

OUT: Lachie Cowan (managed), Jesse Motlop (suspension), Matthew Kennedy, Lochie O’Brien

AFL team selection: Docherty returns

Two All-Australian defenders are back for Round 7.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Nic Newman	Jacob Weitering	Brodie Kemp
Half-backs:	Sam Docherty	Mitch McGovern	Adam Saad
Centreline:	Sam Walsh	Patrick Cripps	Ollie Hollands
Half-forwards:	Ed Curnow	Charlie Curnow	Jack Silvagni
Forwards:	Corey Durdin	Harry McKay	Zac Fisher
Followers:	Marc Pittonet	George Hewett	Adam Cerra
Interchange:	Blake Acres	Alex Cincotta	Josh Honey
	Lewis Young
Emergencies:	Lachie Cowan	Tom De Koning	Lachie Fogarty
	Matthew Kennedy

 

[thebluenewdeal]

Haven't seen this reported anywhere else. But in terms of where it's legit or not, Oliver is a sports reporter for AAP.

So essentially no one was dropped?

 

[Jimmyonesix]

Haven't seen this reported anywhere else. But in terms of where it's legit or not, Oliver is a sports reporter for AAP.

Strange I wouldn't imagine Kennedy an impact sub player -- that's how bad obrien is going ..

 

[Arr0w]

Strange I wouldn't imagine Kennedy an impact sub player -- that's how bad obrien is going ..

Kennedy doesn't have a massive tank, so if he does come on later in the game, he will need less time on the pine

Although, perhaps Binns in the side and Ed as the sub would make more sense

 

[katmanblue]

When Essendon were forcing Collingwood to do that the Pies looked sooooooo average. Squaring the ball up then going i50 is something we don't do enough of, despite the likes of Acres, Cerra, Walsh, Ed getting to that position for us to use them. Watch our games, quite often a winger is sitting at about 65m in the corridor alone.

EDIT:
5:48 on the Kayo match replay of Carlton vs St Kilda
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Walsh intercept marks, Acres is in plenty of space (top of screen demanding the footy) and Ed is on the left of screen pointing at Acres for Walsh to take him. Instead, Walsh pumps it long inside 50 only for the Saints to take an intercept mark.

EDIT2:
At 12:50, we take the inside kick and generate an easy mark i50 to McKay.

It's really that simple when you have Curnow and Harry ahead of the ball. Center the pill and lower the eyes and scores are created.

I see it all the time and it drives me crazy. Often it'll be Jack Martin in that spot. Who is a great i50 kick.

I can understand why you'd stop presenting.

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[WalshYouLegend]

Hearing TDK has been left out due to getting on the gas last weekend in Geelong or Torquay, anyone else heard this? Worrying if true.

Haven’t heard, but that’s fair enough if true. Why not get instant heat with gas rather than crappy electric hot plates? Don’t see why the club would care what fuel type he uses in his kitchen.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

He’s another wing ding I think…maybe a bit light for starting mid role

he could go ok elsewhere perhaps

Clearly we need some more outside run - off a wing could work.

I’d prefer to see Walsh changing forward.

Ed Curnow out & bins to the oppo wing to hollands

 

[katmanblue]

X 2

But we have Honey

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[Accidental genius]

Can someone please explain how Ed is still in the team?

 

[Del9Sep24]

Prioritising a win, sounds good me

Better enjoy it, there won’t be many with these standards

 

[Accidental genius]

Clearly we need some more outside run - off a wing could work.

I’d prefer to see Walsh changing forward.

Ed Curnow out & bins to the oppo wing to hollands

Got Hollands there.

maybe as small forward could work?

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

But we have Honey

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Shame on me, completely forgot

 

[Arr0w]

Better enjoy it, there won’t be many with these standards

Think we have plenty more in us

 

[JuddgementDay]

I don't mind how we score our goals, but I just want us to be bullies!

Win and win well - no excuses!

 

[Accidental genius]

I don't mind how we score our goals, but I just want us to be bullies!

Win and win well - no excuses!

You will take the win anyway it comes and like it!

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

So essentially no one was dropped?

Well LOB was. To make the sub and a slower inside mid instead of opting for his run ... unceremoniously so.

I know we are managing Cowan as he is young and looking tired, but that's still dropping someone, albeit for a rest.

But yes, nobody has paid the price for our shitness of late.

 

[Red_man2008]

In future when Jack Martin

21

Jack Martin

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

is fit I’d like him to be permanent sub. His game seems to wait until the last quarter anyway. If he could rest for 3/4 on the pine and come on he will blow up the opposition.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Kennedy as sub could be useful. A fresh, strong bull in the centre of the ground when others are having trouble lifting their legs ... could turn a game. I'd hope we wouldn't need him by the time he came on though.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

In future when Jack Martin is fit I’d like him to be permanent sub. His game seems to wait until the last quarter anyway. If he could rest for 3/4 on the pine and come on he will blow up the opposition.

But if we get an early injury, he'd have to play a full game. Even with sub we have to allow for all scenarios.

 

[Blue and Blue]

Prioritising a win this week over easing back injured players.

Prioritising a win this week over selection integrity.

Knows a loss this week would be disastrous for himself.

Gameplan or system is non existent so must keep as much talent and experience in the team at all times.

But if the players are not fit as your inferring, then its not a safe option at all is what I am saying. Thats a big risk.
Besides I dont buy into the whole argument anyway.
Pretty clear he coaches for the love of the game and for the team. Not for his ego or cv.

 

[thebluenewdeal]

Well LOB was. To make the sub and a slower inside mid instead of opting for his run ... unceremoniously so.

I know we are managing Cowan as he is young and looking tired, but that's still dropping someone, albeit for a rest.

But yes, nobody has paid the price for our shitness of late.

I’m really flat with how safe and a little desperate everything has been in the lead up to this game. I’m getting Gold Coast 2019 vibes with this one.

 

[carlton_99]

Pittonet 60 ranking points
Marshall 100

Not be all and end all but a guideline nonetheless.

Pittonet pretty sure tied the record for hitouts to advantage for the 2023 season - gave us first service all day. SuperCoach scores had Pitt at 105 and Marshall 88 - I think these "ranking point metrics" are pretty meaningless

 

[Show_Me_The_Money]

Pittonet pretty sure tied the record for hitouts to advantage for the 2023 season - gave us first service all day. SuperCoach scores had Pitt at 105 and Marshall 88 - I think these "ranking point metrics" are pretty meaningless

Fair enough. I was at the ground and thought he was pretty average, especially in marking contests around the ground.

 

[Show_Me_The_Money]

We've got TDK who is one of the most promising rucks not getting a game, other clibs willing to throw millions at him.

Kennedy one of our best mids IMO dropped all of a sudden.

Dow can't get a game.

Liam Stocker

14

Liam Stocker

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

180.0

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.6

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

180.0

3star

couldn't find a spot in our 22 but is well entrenched in the top team in the comp's 22.

Ed Curnow only god himself could possibly know how he's still on our list let alone getting a start.

All this points to our coaching group having little to no idea about what they are on about.

 

[Benaly28]

In future when Jack Martin

21

Jack Martin

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

is fit I’d like him to be permanent sub. His game seems to wait until the last quarter anyway. If he could rest for 3/4 on the pine and come on he will blow up the opposition.

Not on the contract he is on.


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[CJMB]

Pittonet pretty sure tied the record for hitouts to advantage for the 2023 season - gave us first service all day. SuperCoach scores had Pitt at 105 and Marshall 88 - I think these "ranking point metrics" are pretty meaningless

The SC points are pretty much the CD ranking points which are a much better indication than the AFL Fantasy ones. Ie rucks only get points for a hitout to advantage rather points for the raw hitout total.

They also scale the points across the game, if it’s in junk time (or the games already heavily one sided) points get scaled down, but if it’s tight and potentially having an impact on the result they get scaled up.

Still doesn’t/can’t capture some of the ‘statistically intangible’ stuff like blocking for players and all that, but I’m not exactly sure how you would measure it in the same manner as effective kicks, hitouts to advantage, contested marks, etc.