List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread

[King Corey]

Edit: will update if ppl happy for this to sticky

Ok starting the hit list of names mentioned in any rumour as linked to us for 2023 trade period.

• Mac Andrew
• Hunter Clark
• Zac Fisher
• Sam Flanders
• Mitch Georgiades
• Liam Henry
• Dougal Howard
• Lewis Melican
• Jack Silvagni
• Dylan Stephens
• Adam Tomlinson

 

[SheezNuts]

gone earlier with the avatar ... we gunna win tomorrow

Would love a win tbh. Would be ecstatic with either one of Reid or Mckercher.

 

[Flawed Genius]

Quite simply don't think we can afford to look blokes like Melican, Fisher and Menegola in the mouth

Menegola would just churn up and down a wing for a season or two, instantly becoming one of our better four quarter runners and ensuring it's not just Bailey busting his arse every week

Fisher would make our half back line look quicker and better skilled than it currently is, as well as adding in a left footer that isn't Luke McDonald

11

Luke Mcdonald

Age

29

Ht

189cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.9

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

7.3

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.7

4star

MG

317.1

4star

D

14.1

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

6.9

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.3

4star

MG

205.0

3star

D

19.2

5star

K

10.2

4star

HB

9.0

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

3.6

5star

Melican is a meat shield but in the absence of a 29 year old Daniel Curtin or Griffin Logue

19

Griffin Logue

Age

26

Ht

193cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.0

3star

MG

115.4

2star

D

9.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

5.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.0

2star

MG

115.4

2star

D

9.8

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.0

3star

MG

115.4

2star

with two intact ACLs, he'll do for a few seasons

If we think those blokes aren't cracking our best 44 we are kidding ourselves. Absolutely kidding ourselves

 

[Disco Dew]

Quite simply don't think we can afford to look blokes like Melican, Fisher and Menegola in the mouth

Menegola would just churn up and down a wing for a season or two, instantly becoming one of our better four quarter runners and ensuring it's not just Bailey busting his arse every week

Fisher would make our half back line look quicker and better skilled than it currently is, as well as adding in a left footer that isn't Luke McDonald

Melican is a meat shield but in the absence of a 29 year old Daniel Curtin or Griffin Logue with two intact ACLs, he'll do for a few seasons

If we think those blokes aren't cracking our best 44 we are kidding ourselves. Absolutely kidding ourselves

Our bottom 15-20 (ok maybe 10-15 whatever I’m not checking) players are genuinely shit. There are upgrades to be had everywhere. A few B graders from other clubs would look like A graders at ours

 

[Merlin007]

Quite simply don't think we can afford to look blokes like Melican, Fisher and Menegola in the mouth

Menegola would just churn up and down a wing for a season or two, instantly becoming one of our better four quarter runners and ensuring it's not just Bailey busting his arse every week

Fisher would make our half back line look quicker and better skilled than it currently is, as well as adding in a left footer that isn't Luke McDonald

Melican is a meat shield but in the absence of a 29 year old Daniel Curtin or Griffin Logue with two intact ACLs, he'll do for a few seasons

If we think those blokes aren't cracking our best 44 we are kidding ourselves. Absolutely kidding ourselves

couldn't agree more

 

[Flawed Genius]

Our bottom 15-20 (ok maybe 10-15 whatever I’m not checking) players are genuinely s**t. There are upgrades to be had everywhere. A few B graders from other clubs would look like A graders at ours

It's not even that the bottom 15-20 are wet dog vomit. It's that even the good players arent ready to play four quarters. Phillips, Wardlaw, Goater etc all routinely play like 65-75% game time. Don't underestimate the role fatigue of those players who are out there playing 85-95% TOG when they probably shouldn't be is playing on decision making and kicking etc

Yes we all want upgrades on Turner and Hall and Bonar etc, award winning butchers and cats though they are. But the Menegola Fisher Melican law firm plays a very important role in that they are experienced, hardened bodies that can withstand 85-95% TOG and still make good decisions, offsetting the errors made by our younger talented kids who aren't ready from a fitness standpoint

 

[Merlin007]

It's not even that the bottom 15-20 are wet dog vomit. It's that even the good players arent ready to play four quarters. Phillips, Wardlaw, Goater etc all routinely play like 65-75% game time. Don't underestimate the role fatigue of those players who are out there playing 85-95% TOG when they probably shouldn't be is playing on decision making and kicking etc

Yes we all want upgrades on Turner and Hall and Bonar etc, award winning butchers and cats though they are. But the Menegola Fisher Melican law firm plays a very important role in that they are experienced, hardened bodies that can withstand 85-95% TOG and still make good decisions, offsetting the errors made by our younger talented kids who aren't ready from a fitness standpoint

now you're getting over excited

 

[Flawed Genius]

now you're getting over excited

Stay ready so you don't have to get ready

 

[Makeshift Park]

Quite simply don't think we can afford to look blokes like Melican, Fisher and Menegola in the mouth

Menegola would just churn up and down a wing for a season or two, instantly becoming one of our better four quarter runners and ensuring it's not just Bailey busting his arse every week

Fisher would make our half back line look quicker and better skilled than it currently is, as well as adding in a left footer that isn't Luke McDonald

Melican is a meat shield but in the absence of a 29 year old Daniel Curtin or Griffin Logue with two intact ACLs, he'll do for a few seasons

If we think those blokes aren't cracking our best 44 we are kidding ourselves. Absolutely kidding ourselves

Agree on Melican and Fisher.

I too have suggested Menegola in the past months, but I’m assured by many his body is cooked these days (honestly I haven’t seen him play since last year).

If we get two of Ralphsmith, Stephens and Henry, we will suddenly be looking ok as far as the wings go.

 

[Poopybum22]

What has Ford/Goaters wing % been recently? Do we see them there long term?

 

[Merlin007]

Agree on Melican and Fisher.

I too have suggested Menegola in the past months, but I’m assured by many his body is cooked these days (honestly I haven’t seen him play since last year).

If we get two of Ralphsmith, Stephens and Henry, we will suddenly be looking ok as far as the wings go.

Tucker will be better too if he can get an uninterrupted pre-season

 

[The Nostradamus]

Tomlinson dropped again

Get him cheap

 

[Heaps of fun]

It's not even that the bottom 15-20 are wet dog vomit. It's that even the good players arent ready to play four quarters. Phillips, Wardlaw, Goater etc all routinely play like 65-75% game time. Don't underestimate the role fatigue of those players who are out there playing 85-95% TOG when they probably shouldn't be is playing on decision making and kicking etc

Yes we all want upgrades on Turner and Hall and Bonar etc, award winning butchers and cats though they are. But the Menegola Fisher Melican law firm plays a very important role in that they are experienced, hardened bodies that can withstand 85-95% TOG and still make good decisions, offsetting the errors made by our younger talented kids who aren't ready from a fitness standpoint

Absolutely. Anyone that says there's no point replacing our spuds with other spuds isn't paying enough competition to other clubs depth. I look at other bottom 10 sides like Crows, Bombres and Suns and each week I think that 4/4 of their emergencies would be in our best 22s.

 

[DocSholl]

Tomlinson dropped again

Get him cheap

He is not very good

 

[The Nostradamus]

He is not very good

He’s better than the pelican melican

 

[The Nostradamus]

Marchbank another we can get cheaply

 

[DocSholl]

He’s better than the pelican melican

He probably isn't these days. Both are better than Howard though.

 

[The acurate one]

What has Ford/Goaters wing % been recently? Do we see them there long term?

Ford quasi CHF until we find someone else for that role.

 

[Roo202]

People sooking over a 5 year deal to get a player out?

Find me some alternative options to get players out of well performing clubs to join a side who’s 18th and won 11 out of 90 games?

Absolutely kidding yourself if can’t accept that you either have to pay overs in $ or add extra years for security.

Yep, if in 3 or 4 years if it is considered one of our major list issues that we have Zac Fisher with a year or two left on his contract and he isn't close to our best 22, I would be absolutely ecstatic!

 

[Shinboner1]

North taking the Haynes deal from what I'm hearing.

 

[Disco Dew]

North taking the Haynes deal from what I'm hearing.

Gonna need a refresher on what the deal actually is.

 

[Makeshift Park]

North taking the Haynes deal from what I'm hearing.

What Haynes deal?

 

[Daniltchenko You Beauty]

North taking the Haynes deal from what I'm hearing.

Better be a first attached

 

[Sphynx]

Better be a first attached

There isnt.

Twomey was pretty firm on it this week.

GWS aren’t in cap strife so have no reason to salary dump Haynes if he moves.

 

[Makeshift Park]

There isnt.

Twomey was pretty firm on it this week.

GWS aren’t in cap strife so have no reason to salary dump Haynes if he moves.

Except that his contract is something like $1.1m next year.

Its not like he's still AA quality. Surely if he's coming to Arden, there would be at least a second and third rounder coming too.

Given he's close to the end, its hard to understand why he'd smooth that out over multiple years if he didn't have to.

 

[Sphynx]

Except that his contract is something like $1.1m next year.

Its not like he's still AA quality. Surely if he's coming to Arden, there would be at least a second and third rounder coming too.

Hard to understand why he'd smooth that out over multiple years if he didn't have to.

Twomey seemed to think there’s a good chance pick purchasing will be coming in for this trade period.

He named us as one of the main beneficiaries of it does.