Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

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We lost a 25 year old who has played 3 games and a forward that nobody wanted.

We got a fwd who is better than both of them in Chol and a favourite son back.

Losing Brocky stung but Ginni is 20 with 50 + goals to his name, he will be better anyway.

Plus Massimo for nothing

The melt downs in this thread are pretty pathetic tbh.

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There really aren't any big so called melts. People have opinions of players and different understanding of what picks are worth and how they may be used. There are many ways to slice a trade which is one of the challenges for everyone (including the people transacting on behalf of clubs).
 

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Yeah it isn't worth melting over a 4th round pick but why?

Just frustrating when we didn't have to do it.
This is my big thing over this whole trade period. Just trade after trade of "it's no big deal but why?"
 
It's not the end of the world. It's just giving up a player who had potential to take us forward, in order to get back a player who left the club. One of the worst deals I've ever seen the HFC do. I'll never understand it. We should have walked away.
We got a Future second as well which we traded for Chol
Effectively traded Ryan for Chol and Gunners
 
I think the one that hurts is giving up our second rounder for next year which will be quite high for Chol, as well as Chol's 5 year contract. There is certainly some risk there in GC not playing this year, 3rd club for him. Are we in a rebuilding or premiership phase. I am alittle confused by that selection. Then again draft picks are just that, look at DGB with such high pick. Chol is similar age to mitch lewis, perhaps thinking to be a double throng attack.
We gave Brisbanes second not ours
 

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We have weakened our draft hand in 2024 a bit. We now only have our first (which to be fair is the important one) and Collingwood's future second.

No longer have a future third or fourth.
Tbh we need elite players. Not too worried about picks 20+ next year. Cmac, Ward, Butler, Serong, Jai, Frenchy, Weddle, HH, Bmac, DGB, Day, Blanck.

Chol, Ginnivan, Massimo.

All these names are young and talented. We have turned over a huge portion of the list the last couple years.
 
What guarantee was there that Ryan was going to make it?
Think of it as Ryan to Chol and Greene to Gunston. Our forward line has gotten stronger.
If Ryan was going to be a star Sammy would not let him go. He has played 3 games and looks like a stick.
Soft touch Hawks.

I suppose pick 61 may be useless for us, but losing a F4 is frustrating.
F4 is probs pick 61 as well. Who cares
 
It's not the end of the world. It's just giving up a player who had potential to take us forward, in order to get back a player who left the club. One of the worst deals I've ever seen the HFC do. I'll never understand it. We should have walked away.

If you try and break it down you feel a little better.

1. Gunston in is a massive boost to our forward line coaches who will get a hand with teaching our young talls the craft
2. DGB has a golden opportunity to get enough and more opportunities to play in the FWD line and learn from Gunston
3. If fit Gunston can still easily be a big contributor in that forward line
4. Its nice to have a 3peat player finish his career with us for a change
 
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