Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

[Dont_be_a_Plonka]

Yeah, apparently saying we shouldn't have given away a key forward for no reason is a melt. Or is criticising our trading strategy a melt? Help me understand, oh Lunchbox.

We turned a player who was a late pick in the MSD into a 2nd rounder.
Which we then traded for a proven 40 goal a season KPF/Ruck.

 

[theiaofseed]

We're going to have to make a lot of list spots open...

Whats the actual break down of the list? Bramble and Greene are probably gone.

 

[TylerDurden]

The F4 was Collingwood's. Which will be the last pick in the draft next year most likely.

 

[TylerDurden]

Whats the actual break down of the list? Bramble and Greene are probably gone.

Gone

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Handwringers on 18 May: Who is Brandon Ryan?

Handwringers on 18 October: HOW DID WE GIVE AWAY BRANDON RYAN FOR LITERALLY NOTHING REEEEEEE faints due to rage.

We just flipped a bloke playing VFL for a more versatile forward (who can also ruck) who kicked 44 goals last season within 4.5 months. What’s not to like.

 

[eldorado]

Whats the actual break down of the list? Bramble and Greene are probably gone.

I'd say definitely...and maybe the old delist/re-rookie thing with someone as well.

It's hard to keep track of primary list numbers...

 

[Ashman23]

MM didn't directly answer in his interview.

Has Will McCabe declared for F/S?

And, Calsher Dear for that matter?

 

[Hawkspot]

If you’d said a week ago we would keep 4 and our F1, have enough points for McCabe and Dear, have a F2, and bring in Chol, Ginnivan, D’Ambrosio, and Gunston..

I’m taking that.

We lost one player from our best 22 in Brockman, and added 3.

Leave 4 and F1 on the table for pick 1 up until the moment it’s selected. Either North panics and overpays or the eagles blink. If not, we are going to get a gun and have our F1 still.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Mossimo done as well on the death Nell pick 61 going to bombers .

Thanks Internet Explorer.

 

[badboybobba]

We don't have ours anymore Collingwood has it, we have Collingwood's

Yes but not in the same deal which the original poster was alluding to. They were saying that we gave up our second rounder for Chol which wasn’t the truth

 

[daniel23]

Amazing how some people still don't understand the worth of picks and the bidding system. The slide back in the ginnavin and gunston deals from our perspective are very marginal and we are still getting McCabe no matter what.

Ginnavin>brockman
Chol> kosi
Gunston > Ryan
Massimo>bramble

Every chance of Gunston might get his body right and we get 3 years from him while Ryan may be delisted when his contract expires because he hasn't come on.

 

[The Worpedo]

Pretty good trade period for us overall.
However we still have a bit of a hole down back.
Is there a delisted or potential to be delisted KPB that we could target to slot in
Personally I was hoping to target dougal Howard

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Dougal Howard

Age

28

Ht

199cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.9

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

176.2

3star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.7

4star

T

0.6

1star

MG

171.9

3star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.8

5star

MG

133.8

3star

or Lewis young

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Lewis Young

Age

25

Ht

202cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

197.9

3star

D

4.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

26.0

1star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.2

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

181.6

3star

Maybe borlase from Adelaide might be worth a look. Little undersized but strong in the contest from the few games I've watched. Kind of reminded me of Tom clurey

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Tom Clurey

Age

30

Ht

193cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.7

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

3.1

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

156.0

2star

D

10.9

3star

K

8.9

4star

HB

2.0

1star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.3

2star

MG

156.0

3star

D

7.8

2star

K

6.0

3star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

but a better user snd drive out of the back half. Still young maybe DFA
Or one from left field
Trial nash down back, has the size.
Would also allow one of the young mid to step up (hustwaite/mckenzie)

 

[WatWouldCyrilDo]

The thing everyone needs to keep in mind is that GCS have 6 picks before 44, so they'll all come in 6 spots. On this basis, the 5 picks actually equal 1631 points - enough to match a bid at pick 4.

Hence why the shift down of our selections to brisbane didn't really make a difference.

 

[Colloquy]

Wonder if there were fears Dodo would be a campaigner and bid on McCabe.

Still could

 

[RX Hawk]

Updated draft hand:

4
44
47
49
62
63

And next season:

F1 (Hawks)
F2 (Pies)

Yea now we just need to win more matches than Pies in 2024 to make that F2 worth while. Not impossible considering the talent we bought in.

 

[eldorado]

Thanks Internet Explorer.

Awwww, be nice...

 

[naysayer]

You realise we traded in 3 forwards, right

We traded out 3 forwards as well. 2 of them wanted to go, I get it. I don't see the reasoning with Ryan, a key forward we didn't have to lose. Anyway, enough said. Apparently being disappointed in that trade is killing the vibe.

 

[The Seaword]

Can someone share who tf is massing dambrosiiio

 

[Sixpence]

We certainly went hard on forwards! Chol, Gunners, Ginni, Watson, Dear.

 

[Bugs1977]

In the end, our trade period was neither good nor bad. I would have hoped to do better, but our list didn't go backward. Nice to be on the other end of a Wright deal.

Yeah but the most important thing is the team looks to be more balanced and stronger upfront now. If we can win at least 10 games next season then it's a step in the right direction and most importantly make us a more attractive option for FA.

 

[theiaofseed]

We certainly went hard on forwards! Chol, Gunners, Ginni, Watson, Dear.

McCabe can easily play forward as well, played majority of his juniors there.

 

[Colloquy]

Plus it's already been pushed back to 0 point value. Currently 74 if pies go B2B.

So what happens if young Burgoyne says I want to play for Hawthorn next year as I barrack for them and not Ports seeing we have traded all our picks.

 

[unitedhawk]

We kept Hustwaite a lot clubs were eyeing him off.

He's going to be a star. Elite hands in traffic.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

We traded out 3 forwards as well. 2 of them wanted to go, I get it. I don't see the reasoning with Ryan, a key forward we didn't have to lose. Anyway, enough said. Apparently being disappointed in that trade is killing the vibe.

No people were calling you out for saying he was going for ‘nothing’ when he was basically being swapped for Chol and Gunston.

 

[Ashman23]

Can someone share who tf is massing dambrosiiio

Danilo D'Ambrosio - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This guy, he's a little bit old, good on both sides of the body and listed as a defender.